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MS Office Forum / Excel / New Users / February 2007Thanks to all who answered my questions
I want to thank you all for answering my questions. I guess I cant email a native Pocket Word of Excel file to someone without Active Sync, or in the case of Pocket Excel (to someone without a PocketPC). Yes I do have TextMaker office, but it does not allow password protecting of native Word and Excel files as I understand. So the solution was to create password protected zip files with native MS office files in them. I wont send the data that I wish to send in the body of any email message, nor will I sent it without a password as the risks are too high. Thanks again. John  SignatureHeb. 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries http://www.cerm.info > I want to thank you all for answering my questions. I guess I cant > email a native Pocket Word of Excel file to someone without Active > Sync, or in the case of Pocket Excel (to someone without a PocketPC). Yes, you can. (Or, I should say, it's possible, but you, in your unique situation, won't want to.) I had to dust off my old NEC HPC to test, but the .pxl file I e- mailed to myself was converted by the HPC e-mail program because it showed up in my inbox as an .xls file, not a .pxl. So the act of e- mailing converts the file. Having said that, this doesn't help YOU in your situation, because the file loses the password protection (I was prompted for the password when I hit "send" so the file was unlocked prior to conversion.) I just wanted to point this out in case anyone lurking needs to send a pocket-version of an Office file and incorrectly assumes the recipients would need Activesync to use it. If you think about it, requiring recipients to need conversion software would really undermine the usefulness of HPCs and PPCs. (Of course, this begs the question that if the HPC or PPC can convert the files themselves when necessary, why didn't they give us that option directly on the device!) Again, I reiterate that this in no way helps you, since if you were to zip the .pxl or .pwd doc first (with or without a password) the HPC couldn't convert it, as it wouldn't "see" inside the zip file to perform the conversion. > So the solution was to create password protected zip files with native > MS office files in them. That's probably the only protected option for your situation. For less sensitive documents, however, e-mailing .pxl and .pwd docs require no conversion regardless of recipient. > Yes, you can. (Or, I should say, it's possible, but you, in your unique > situation, won't want to.) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > showed up in my inbox as an .xls file, not a .pxl. So the act of e- > mailing converts the file. This did not work with my Jornada 720. What did you do? I have to manually convert files. John > Having said that, this doesn't help YOU in your situation, because the > file loses the password protection (I was prompted for the password when [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > sensitive documents, however, e-mailing .pxl and .pwd docs require no > conversion regardless of recipient. SignatureHeb. 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries http://www.cerm.info > This did not work with my Jornada 720. What did you do? I simply e-mailed it as an attachment from my AOL IMAP account. It showed up in my webmail as an .xls. attachment. > > This did not work with my Jornada 720. What did you do? > > I simply e-mailed it as an attachment from my AOL IMAP account. It > showed up in my webmail as an .xls. attachment. But AOL is not the same as Pocket Outlook, and remember that AOL does not ship with every HPC like Pocket Outlook does. Also how did you access webmail on the HPC? Which service? Hotmail among others crash the unit, but I am aware that Squirrel mail works just fine on the HPC. John SignatureHeb. 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries http://www.cerm.info > > I simply e-mailed it as an attachment from my AOL IMAP account. It > > showed up in my webmail as an .xls. attachment. > > But AOL is not the same as Pocket Outlook, and remember that AOL does > not ship with every HPC like Pocket Outlook does. I didn't use AOL software. I used Pocket Outlook. This isn't 1999, AOL mail accounts are no longer proprietary- you can access them via Pocket Outlook ("Inbox") by setting them up as IMAP accounts. > Also how did you access webmail on the HPC? Which service? I used an old laptop (the only PC I had without Activesync on it!) to retrieve the e-mail to see if was a .pxl or .xls. It was an .xls. > Hotmail among others crash the unit, but I am aware that Squirrel mail > works just fine on the HPC. AOL has allowed access via IMAP for a few years, allowing you to use any e-mail software, and now offers free e-mail accounts. I rarely use webmail, since I always have my PPC with me. Sorry to reply to myself, John, but I retract my previous statement as to the file conversion on an HPC. I must have been tired, loopy, or both late that night when performing my test- I sent myself an .xls from my NEC 790, not a .pxl! So of course it came out an .xls file on the other end since that's how it started! However, sending a .pxl file from my _Pocket_PC (a Dell Axim) DID come out an .xls on the received e-mail (as I remembered doing many times before!) I had forgotten that some of the Excel files on my semi-retired HPC are "real" Excel .xls files from the days when I tried out SpreadCE. After sending my last post, I dragged out the NEC again to repeat my test (since you couldn't get it to work, I was going to "retrace my steps" and see where you might be messing it up!) and when attaching the file realized it, like the other Excel files on the HPC, was an .xls! My sincere apologies for the confusion. I'd recommend SpreadCE to you for working with Excel files, but if I recall a prior post, you've already bought Planmaker, so you've solved that issue already. Again, please accept my apologies for my earlier error. > I didn't use AOL software. I used Pocket Outlook. This isn't 1999, AOL > mail accounts are no longer proprietary- you can access them via Pocket > Outlook ("Inbox") by setting them up as IMAP accounts... <snip> Thanks for your honesty. Why did you retire your HPC? I use my PDA and my HPC for different things. John > Sorry to reply to myself, John, but I retract my previous statement as to > the file conversion on an HPC. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Outlook ("Inbox") by setting them up as IMAP accounts... > <snip> SignatureHeb. 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries http://www.cerm.info > Thanks for your honesty. Why did you retire your HPC? I use my PDA and > my HPC for different things. I used to use it primarily for data entry into a couple of spreadsheets for my business, and accessing a few dedicated business websites. Eventually, I decided that the small size advantage of the PPC trumped the disadvantage of stylus entry vs. keyboard, and the nail in the coffin was the upgrade of one of the websites I needed to access into a java- laden mess no HPC-browser could handle. (No PPC browser can either, but I can get to it on my PPC via my desktop with LogMeIn.com.) Now the HPC is an occasional "web pad" when my wife and kids hog all of the real computers around the house. > > Thanks for your honesty. Why did you retire your HPC? I use my PDA and > > my HPC for different things. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Now the HPC is an occasional "web pad" when my wife and kids hog all of > the real computers around the house. I must admit the browser built in does crash and is very slow compared to my desktop and laptop. But the HPC has other advantages. Just look at the 200LX. Its got no browser, yet people use it for other reasons outside of Internet access. I owned one once, and it was a nice machine. But no it was not a Internet machine, and as far as I understand you cant really access the Internet via Wifi or ethernet, only via a modem on that machine. Bye the way whats logmein.com? https://secure.logmein.com/go.asp?page=home John SignatureHeb. 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries http://www.cerm.info > Bye the way whats logmein.com? A service that allows remote control access of your PC from any other PC (or PPC) on the web. When I'm on vacation in Vegas next month, I can log in to LogMeIn's site with my username and password, then they'll connect me to my desktop and I'll see my desktop's display on my PPC, and be able to control the PC remotely- e-mail myself a file I forgot to bring with me, browse websites that won't display on the PPC's browser, etc. > > Bye the way whats logmein.com? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > to control the PC remotely- e-mail myself a file I forgot to bring with me, > browse websites that won't display on the PPC's browser, etc. Sounds like terminal Service client (which ships with the Jornada 720) or Citrix. Or like PC Anywhere (that was available for the Jornada 680). John SignatureHeb. 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries http://www.cerm.info > Sounds like terminal Service client (which ships with the Jornada 720) > or Citrix. Yes, but a third party service like LogMeIn (or GoToMyPC) is less headache to work with, particularly when your PC sits behind a router connected to the net with a dynamic address! Because it all works through a browser, without messing with VPNs or tunneling, you can use it easily from "borrowed" PCs, like at a friend's house or a public computer like a hotel-lobby PC. > > Sounds like terminal Service client (which ships with the Jornada 720) > > or Citrix. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > tunneling, you can use it easily from "borrowed" PCs, like at a friend's > house or a public computer like a hotel-lobby PC. I would agree, but then there is that price tag which is expensive. But I see your POV. However if you use a HPC you cant use that service but you can use Terminal Server. But web browsing on a shared screen is a pain in the butt on the HPC. Its probably so on the PPC, and who would want to browse on a PPC anyways without the keyboard,etc.. SignatureHeb. 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. CERM-Church Education Resource Ministries http://www.cerm.info > I would agree, but then there is that price tag which is expensive. Actually LogMeIn's basic service is free, as an enticement to upgrade, I assume. Basic works fine for me. > But > I see your POV. However if you use a HPC you cant use that service but > you can use Terminal Server. But web browsing on a shared screen is a > pain in the butt on the HPC. Its probably so on the PPC, and who would > want to browse on a PPC anyways without the keyboard,etc.. Actually I browse on my PPC often, but I generally stick to PDA/phone formatted sites. I use LogMeIn for a specific site that PDA browsers can't display. |
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