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Convert linear rate to Compounded

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Robert E. Leonard Sr - 06 Dec 2007 06:55 GMT
I am looking for formula to convert Annual stock return to a compounded
annualized return.

i have developed a formula that gives me the estimate annual return on a
stock of 22.0%. I want to convert it  to a compounded annual return. I
estimate it to be around 15 or 16%.

Thanks,
Bob Leonard
Niek Otten - 06 Dec 2007 09:17 GMT
Hi Bob,

Look in HELP for the NOMINAL() and EFFECT() functions

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Niek Otten
Microsoft MVP - Excel

|I am looking for formula to convert Annual stock return to a compounded
| annualized return.
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| Thanks,
| Bob Leonard
Stan Brown - 06 Dec 2007 11:15 GMT
Thu, 6 Dec 2007 01:55:37 -0500 from Robert E. Leonard Sr
<rleonard@mich.com>:
> I am looking for formula to convert Annual stock return to a compounded
> annualized return.
>
> i have developed a formula that gives me the estimate annual return on a
> stock of 22.0%. I want to convert it  to a compounded annual return. I
> estimate it to be around 15 or 16%.

Initial value in A1
Final value in A2
Number of years in A3

The growth is A2/A1

The growth per year is (A2/A1)^(1/A3)

The percent increase per year (compound annual return) is
=(A2/A1)^(1/A3)-1
formatted as a percent.

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joeu2004 - 06 Dec 2007 16:02 GMT
> I am looking for formula to convert Annual stock return to a compounded
> annualized return.
>
> i have developed a formula that gives me the estimate annual return on a
> stock of 22.0%. I want to convert it  to a compounded annual return. I
> estimate it to be around 15 or 16%.

I don't understand.  You seem to be misusing the terminology.  A
stock's "annual return" is the same as its "compounded annualized
return".  They are different only when the time period is different.

For example, if the stock price grew 22% over 4 years, we might
compute the annual return by either of the following formulas:

=rate(4, 0, -1, 1+22%)

=(1+22%)^(1/4) - 1

Note:  You might need to set the Format to Percentage manually.

But if your estimate of 15-16% is close, that would suggest that you
have held the stock for only 16-17 months.  That high end can be
estimated by:

=12*nper(15%, 0, -1, 1+22%)

Replace 15% with 16% to estimate the low end.

On the other hand, perhaps you mean that 22% is the "nominal" return
based on, for example, a monthly return of about 1.83% (22%/12).

In that case, the compounded monthly return can be annualized by
either of the following formulas:

=fv(22%/12, 12, 0, -1) - 1

=(1 + 22%/12)^12 - 1

Note:  Again, you might need to set the Format to Percentage manually.

But that results in an annualized rate of more than 24%, not 15-16%.
Since somehow you estimated a smaller annualized rate, it would seem
that this is not the case you are asking about.
joeu2004 - 06 Dec 2007 16:34 GMT
PS....

> > i have developed a formula that gives me the estimate annual return on
> > a stock of 22.0%. I want to convert it  to a compounded annual return. I
> > estimate it to be around 15 or 16%.
>
> I don't understand.  You seem to be misusing the terminology.

Or you omitted a critical detail (see below).

> For example, if the stock price grew 22% over 4 years, we might
> compute the annual return by either of the following formulas:
> =rate(4, 0, -1, 1+22%)
> =(1+22%)^(1/4) - 1

Perhaps you mean that the stock price grew by x% over N years, where x
%/N is the (nominal) annual return 22%.  If your estimate of 15-16% is
correct, then x% would be 110-131% and N would be 5-6 years.  You
would use the formula above; but it is important that you use the
total return of x% (perhaps 110-131%), not 22%.

(When I wrote "grew 22% over 4 years", I meant to say "a total of
22%".)

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