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IndyMcDuff - 17 Jul 2007 18:56 GMT
The receipt method is one way that Outlook has of being notified as to
whether an intended recipient has received mail, but there should be some
other way, such as AOL has, to know whether that person opened the mail.  

There should also be a way of recalling and canceling the mail if the person
has not opened it.  Other mail clients have this feature and Outlook does not?

I'm sure others have hit the send button and then wish they hadn't ;)

Indy
Richard Urban - 17 Jul 2007 19:09 GMT
When once the mail has been downloaded onto the other persons computer, how
do you expect to recall it?

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> The receipt method is one way that Outlook has of being notified as to
> whether an intended recipient has received mail, but there should be some
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IndyMcDuff - 17 Jul 2007 19:18 GMT
Well, I have my Outlook to receive once every minute, but if I know that
person is in flight, or otherwise not at the computer...if it hasn't been
opened...maybe it could be recalled?  If not, at least have a way of knowing
whether they opened it or not.

Indy

> When once the mail has been downloaded onto the other persons computer, how
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Tim - 17 Jul 2007 21:22 GMT
> Well, I have my Outlook to receive once every minute, but if I know that
> person is in flight, or otherwise not at the computer...if it hasn't been
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The recall message feature works only if you are on an Exchange server
and you send the message to someone on that Exchange server. When you
send the message, it stays on the server unread until the person opens
it or you recall it. I once had someone recall a message sent to me via
our Exchange server. I got a message informing me that the user had
requested that it be recalled. I had the option to read the message
before it was sent back. What good is that? Even if I couldn't read the
message before it was recalled, it would certainly raise suspicions
about what was in it. Personally, I have never used it and don't' plan
to in the future.

If you send your message via a POP3 server (i.e. the internet), once
it's been sent, there is nothing you can do to get it back without
breaking several laws.

Yes, people have sent messages they wish they hadn't...me included. But
sometimes technology cannot serve as a substitute for human common sense
(i.e. think a few minutes *before* hitting the Send button) even though
some people think it can or should.

There are message delivered receipts as well as message opened receipts.
But these cannot be relied on. Some e-mail clients do not support them.
Some clients allow the receipts to be blocked. Sometimes...you just have
to actually talk to the person (shudder).

Tim
IndyMcDuff - 17 Jul 2007 21:34 GMT
Egads!  Did you say nasty words?   "Common Sense?"...I'm a blonde!!!!  And
Irish to boot.  Sometimes my temper gets the worst of me, and then after I
leave one of my multitude of puters, and go into the kitchen or out on the
deck for a glass of wine...that old voice in the head says 'now what did you
go and say THAT for'????

Thus my question.  I'm sure you all knew I had an ulterior motive, so I may
as well be honest about it! ;)

BUT, there is NOTHING on this planet that would convince me to go AOL just
so that I could do that.  I'd rather infect my puters purposely (because I
view AOL as a massive computer virus).

Okay, so how about just being able to find out if they opened it without the
recall feature?  And without the receipt?  Because when I get into one of my
heated, er....'discussions' ... with my client (and then wish I had not
gotten so heated)...I want to know how many glasses of wine I should have
before I answer his next email ;)

Indy

> > Well, I have my Outlook to receive once every minute, but if I know that
> > person is in flight, or otherwise not at the computer...if it hasn't been
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> Tim
Charles W Davis - 18 Jul 2007 02:21 GMT
Indy,
I am one of the reason that the read receipt is unreliable. I never allow
them to be sent.
> Egads!  Did you say nasty words?   "Common Sense?"...I'm a blonde!!!!  And
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>> Tim
Gordon - 17 Jul 2007 21:24 GMT
> Well, I have my Outlook to receive once every minute,

And that is FAR too frequent. Ten minutes is the recommended time otherwise
it causes server overload and waste of bandwidth, amongst other things.
IndyMcDuff - 18 Jul 2007 11:52 GMT
A waste of bandwidth?  I have two ISP's and pay a fortune to do so, so that
urgent mail is rec'd immediately.  Same with my PDA, which is yet another
carrier.  It's my job.  Since I'm not uploading or downloading huge files, it
doesn't bother anything.

Indy

> > Well, I have my Outlook to receive once every minute,
>
> And that is FAR too frequent. Ten minutes is the recommended time otherwise
> it causes server overload and waste of bandwidth, amongst other things.
 
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