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MS Office Forum / Outlook / General MS Outlook Questions / May 2008-> [OL2007]: Not possible to add a table in HTML??? <-
Hi, I have Outlook 2007 and was writing an HTML email and realized that I was not able to add a table into the text. How do you do such a very basic thing? In the "Insert" ribbon, the "Table" button is always grayed out, no matter what document format I use! I have only Outlook 2007, not Office 2007. Is this related to Word? I mean, wouldn't it be possible to add a stupid table without getting the entire Office suite? Thanks for any help. Sincerely, Steve JORDI (Remove the K_I_L_LSPAM from my email address) ------------------------------------------------ 1197 Prangins Email: stevejordiK_I_L_LSPAM@hotmail.com Switzerland WWW: www.sjordi.com ------------------------------------------------ Volcanoes at www.sjordi.com/volcanoes MovieDB at www.sjmoviedb.com ------------------------------------------------ That is indeed the case. If you hover above the Table option there is a screen tip telling you the same. FWIW; you've never been able to add a table to an email message without having the same version of Word installed on the system in any version of Outlook. If you are using an html-editor to create tables you can inject the HTML code directly via Attach File-> Insert as Text.  SignatureRobert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook] Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003 http://www.howto-outlook.com/ Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more http://www.msoutlook.info/ Real World Questions, Real World Answers ----- > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > MovieDB at www.sjmoviedb.com > ------------------------------------------------ >FWIW; you've never been able to add a table to an email message without >having the same version of Word installed on the system in any version of >Outlook. Really? Amazing. This is such a basic feature even available in $14.95 sharewares! I'm stunned to say the least :-) >If you are using an html-editor to create tables you can inject the HTML >code directly via Attach File-> Insert as Text. Ok that did. Thanks for your help. Sincerely, Steve JORDI (Remove the K_I_L_LSPAM from my email address) ------------------------------------------------ 1197 Prangins Email: stevejordiK_I_L_LSPAM@hotmail.com Switzerland WWW: www.sjordi.com ------------------------------------------------ Volcanoes at www.sjordi.com/volcanoes MovieDB at www.sjmoviedb.com ------------------------------------------------ Now I have a rendering effect. In my table, I have the table with just one row and two cells. The first cell has my business card in JPG and the second one next to it has a background to fill out the rest of the table. The borders and margins are all set to 0. Now if I check the html file in IExplorer or FireFox, everything is perfect. If I insert this into an outlook HTML message, it has a small vertical blank line between the two pictures... (left and right) Is Outlook having problems rendering this? Is it possible to remove that stupid thing? I even have tried to set that background image as the table background No success. Here is the code: <table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" background="bar.jpg" > <tr> <td><img src="sigImg.jpg" width="340" height="151" border="0" /></td> <td><img src="bar.jpg" width="100%" height="151" border="0"/></td> </tr> </table> Thanks for any help Sincerely, Steve JORDI (Remove the K_I_L_LSPAM from my email address) ------------------------------------------------ 1197 Prangins Email: stevejordiK_I_L_LSPAM@hotmail.com Switzerland WWW: www.sjordi.com ------------------------------------------------ Volcanoes at www.sjordi.com/volcanoes MovieDB at www.sjmoviedb.com ------------------------------------------------ It appears so. I can repro your issue here. The rendering is actually done by a Word stub and not Outlook. Therefore reporting rendering issues would be more appropriate in the Word newsgroups or directly to Microsoft via Product Support. SignatureRobert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook] Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003 http://www.howto-outlook.com/ Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more http://www.msoutlook.info/ Real World Questions, Real World Answers ----- > Now I have a rendering effect. > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > MovieDB at www.sjmoviedb.com > ------------------------------------------------ >It appears so. I can repro your issue here. >The rendering is actually done by a Word stub and not Outlook. Therefore >reporting rendering issues would be more appropriate in the Word newsgroups >or directly to Microsoft via Product Support. So guess that there is an embedded Word engine since I don't have Word on my machine? :-) Sincerely, Steve JORDI (Remove the K_I_L_LSPAM from my email address) ------------------------------------------------ 1197 Prangins Email: stevejordiK_I_L_LSPAM@hotmail.com Switzerland WWW: www.sjordi.com ------------------------------------------------ Volcanoes at www.sjordi.com/volcanoes MovieDB at www.sjmoviedb.com ------------------------------------------------ Correct, in Outlook 2007 there is no Word or Outlook email editor anymore but only a single one which is based on Word and uses several Word components like the HTML rendering engine. When you install a stand-alone Outlook 2007, a Word stub is installed for the editor to work. SignatureRobert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook] Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003 http://www.howto-outlook.com/ Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more http://www.msoutlook.info/ Real World Questions, Real World Answers ----- >>It appears so. I can repro your issue here. >>The rendering is actually done by a Word stub and not Outlook. Therefore [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > MovieDB at www.sjmoviedb.com > ------------------------------------------------ >It appears so. I can repro your issue here. >The rendering is actually done by a Word stub and not Outlook. Therefore >reporting rendering issues would be more appropriate in the Word newsgroups >or directly to Microsoft via Product Support. Ha, there is a very funny thing though. If you send an email with those two images next to each other, the vertical line is shown in the compose window, but once sent, go to the "Sent" folder and the preview pane correctly display the HTML without that vertical line! Now doubleclick it to open it and it's also correctly displayed. Even better? With the message open, now select "Other actions" and then "Edit message", here again, even in edit mode (just like when compsing it), the HTML is correctly rendered! Try to understand! Just like the rendering machine between compose and display is not the same! Amazing! Sincerely, Steve JORDI (Remove the K_I_L_LSPAM from my email address) ------------------------------------------------ 1197 Prangins Email: stevejordiK_I_L_LSPAM@hotmail.com Switzerland WWW: www.sjordi.com ------------------------------------------------ Volcanoes at www.sjordi.com/volcanoes MovieDB at www.sjmoviedb.com ------------------------------------------------ Yeah, it even gets weirder; press Forward and it shows correctly too. Click the picture to select it and note that instead of having round selection corners on the outside of the image, you now have square selection corners inside of the image. Click the Format tab under Picture Tools in the Ribbon and note that you have different picture editing tools. I'll try to report it as well. SignatureRobert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook] Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003 http://www.howto-outlook.com/ Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more http://www.msoutlook.info/ Real World Questions, Real World Answers ----- >>It appears so. I can repro your issue here. >>The rendering is actually done by a Word stub and not Outlook. Therefore [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > MovieDB at www.sjmoviedb.com > ------------------------------------------------ >I'll try to report it as well. Since you're into reporting, can you also report the HTML formatted replies that don't allow to break the flowed-content? This is the vertical line at the left marging. Clicking on Unindent Paragraph in order to add your comments doesn't work. It does in Outlook 2003 and previous version, but not in 2007. Also, selecting the text and pressing "Remove formatting" totally freezes Outlook 2007. It would be nice. Thanks :-) Sincerely, Steve JORDI (Remove the K_I_L_LSPAM from my email address) ------------------------------------------------ 1197 Prangins Email: stevejordiK_I_L_LSPAM@hotmail.com Switzerland WWW: www.sjordi.com ------------------------------------------------ Volcanoes at www.sjordi.com/volcanoes MovieDB at www.sjmoviedb.com ------------------------------------------------ Can you post exact steps to reproduce for the 1st issue? Your second issues I cannot reproduce and I use that feature quite some times per day. What kind of formatting are you trying to clear when you use it? SignatureRobert Sparnaaij [MVP-Outlook] Coauthor, Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003 http://www.howto-outlook.com/ Outlook FAQ, HowTo, Downloads, Add-Ins and more http://www.msoutlook.info/ Real World Questions, Real World Answers ----- >>I'll try to report it as well. > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > MovieDB at www.sjmoviedb.com > ------------------------------------------------ >Can you post exact steps to reproduce for the 1st issue? Sure, make sure that you have an HTML formatted mail (received). Select it, and click Reply. This opens the editing window and you can see that the left part of the received message shows a blue vertical line along the entire content. Normally, if you want to put a part of your answer between two paragraphs, you would position your cursort just after the first paragraph, and then click the "Unindent paragraph" button in the "Basic text" icon group. This is normally done to break that vertical blue line and make sure that the recipient immediately knows which parts are his, and which are yours. This works perfectly in Outlook 2003 and before. But not in 2007. It positions the cursor directly over the blue line and then hides our first character when you type in text. When sent, the recipient still has a full vertical line instead of separated paragraphs. In 2007, there is actually no way to break that vertical blue line as it is the case in all other email clients. >Your second issues I cannot reproduce and I use that feature quite some >times per day. What kind of formatting are you trying to clear when you use >it? Select an HTML formatted email you want to reply to. Hit the reply button. Make sure that you don't have any signature automatically inserted at the top (actually, make sure that the reply edition window shows only the prefixed text with the vertical blue line from the very top of the window). Select all by ctrl-a Then click the "remove all formatting" button in the "Format Text" ribbon part, in the "Font" icon group. It's the icon with "Aa" and an eraser. In my case it freezes Outlook Sincerely, Steve JORDI (Remove the K_I_L_LSPAM from my email address) ------------------------------------------------ 1197 Prangins Email: stevejordiK_I_L_LSPAM@hotmail.com Switzerland WWW: www.sjordi.com ------------------------------------------------ Volcanoes at www.sjordi.com/volcanoes MovieDB at www.sjmoviedb.com ------------------------------------------------ |
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