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Yoshioka - 28 Jun 2006 14:01 GMT
I have tryed everthing to take off read only on my word Doc, can anyone help
me?
thank you
JoAnn Paules [MVP] - 28 Jun 2006 14:51 GMT
Please define "everything".

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>I have tryed everthing to take off read only on my word Doc, can anyone
>help
> me?
> thank you
Yoshioka - 28 Jun 2006 16:09 GMT
Thank you, But I am really think when it come to computer! please you tell me
what you mean by "Please define "everything".

Best regards

> Please define "everything".
>
> >I have tryed everthing to take off read only on my word Doc, can anyone
> >help
> > me?
> > thank you
ChrisM - 28 Jun 2006 16:17 GMT
When you say you have tried 'Everything' to 'turn off' ReadOnly on your
document,
Exactly WHAT things have you tried?

Restarted Word?
Restarted your computer?
Restarted your server(if you have one)?
Checked the file permissions on your file?
Made a copy of the file and tried opening that?
anything else??

Cheers,

ChrisM.

> Thank you, But I am really think when it come to computer! please you tell
> me
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>> > me?
>> > thank you
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 28 Jun 2006 16:47 GMT
Selected the filename in Windows Explorer, right-clicked and chosen
Properties, then cleared the Read Only check box?

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> When you say you have tried 'Everything' to 'turn off' ReadOnly on your
> document,
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Yoshioka - 28 Jun 2006 17:19 GMT
what do u mean select file name in windows explorer? How do I do that?

> Selected the filename in Windows Explorer, right-clicked and chosen
> Properties, then cleared the Read Only check box?
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> > >> > me?
> > >> > thank you
Yoshioka - 28 Jun 2006 18:02 GMT
I just want to turn-off read only so it never comes on again I have trying
going into file save as the tools then general opions. I have tried going
into tools then opions it dose not work either
Even my power point presention is in read only I saved it to CD and it still
say read only when I try to save a power point onto CD it dose not let me all
it say is the file is proctected
Every time I make a new word doc or power point doc it always come-up as
read only!
I can make a copy of the file n give it a different name which seem to work
but only with word but it dose not work with power point
This is my computer at home and I with a internet talk talk broadband

I just want to turn off read only so that it never come up again
I have even tried to restall office but that did not do anything

> what do u mean select file name in windows explorer? How do I do that?
>
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Ralphael1 - 28 Jun 2006 21:15 GMT
> I just want to turn-off read only so it never comes on again I have trying
> going into file save as the tools then general opions. I have tried going
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> > > Selected the filename in Windows Explorer, right-clicked and chosen
> > > Properties, then cleared the Read Only check box?

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Yoshioka, I have same problem. Like you I have tried everything and the
problem still there. I am convinced there is no way to get rid of Read
Only.

Ralphael, the OLD one
Gordon - 28 Jun 2006 21:37 GMT
> Yoshioka, I have same problem. Like you I have tried everything and the
> problem still there. I am convinced there is no way to get rid of Read
> Only.

And where are these files you are trying to open located? Is it just one
file, or does it happen with ALL files?
Ralphael1 - 29 Jun 2006 13:09 GMT
> > Yoshioka, I have same problem. Like you I have tried everything and the
> > problem still there. I am convinced there is no way to get rid of Read
> > Only.
> >
> > And where are these files you are trying to open located? Is it just one
> file, or does it happen with ALL files?

These files are saved in the dreaded My Documents realm. I found some
information on a google search but it was not any help.
Here is how I created the files: Being a stamp collector I copied and
pasted some images to a blank email and sent it to myself. Then I went
to edit images and sent them to foldersz stored in My Documents. The
problem is that I cannot delete images that I no longer need and cannot
rename either. Why did I save the images the way I did, it was the only
way I found that I could do it.

Ralphael, the OLD one
ChrisM - 29 Jun 2006 09:17 GMT
Are you always trying to save these files to CD?
If you are, then chances are they will be ReadOnly. CDs are designed to be
ReadOnly. Your best bet is to save the file to your hard disk, and only copy
it to a CD when it is finished, that is, it doesn't matter if it becomes
read-only.

One other thing, if you save a file to CD, then copy it to your hard disk,
it will usually still have the ReadOnly option set on the hard disk copy.

Finally, as far as I know, there is no way of 'turning off' read-only in
word, it is more to do with how and where you save the file.

Hope you manage to sort it out...

Cheers,

Chris.

>I just want to turn-off read only so it never comes on again I have trying
> going into file save as the tools then general opions. I have tried going
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Ralphael1 - 29 Jun 2006 13:16 GMT
> Finally, as far as I know, there is no way of 'turning off' read-only in
> word, it is more to do with how and where you save the file.

Chris, you are right on target to my problem even though it has nothing
to do with Word. sorry for my post being from a different context.

Ralphael, the OLD one
Yoshioka - 28 Jun 2006 17:23 GMT
I think I done what u have told me but it say an error occured applyin
attributed to file
Assess is denied

> Selected the filename in Windows Explorer, right-clicked and chosen
> Properties, then cleared the Read Only check box?
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> > >> > thank you
ChrisM - 28 Jun 2006 17:28 GMT
Is this file on a your computer, or are you accessing a file on a server, or
some other computer across a network?

If your computer is 'stand-alone' that is not on a network, does anyone else
use it? If so, do they log into the computer with a different name?

>I think I done what u have told me but it say an error occured applyin
> attributed to file
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Suzanne S. Barnhill - 28 Jun 2006 17:31 GMT
Have you done all the things suggested in ChrisM's post?

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> I think I done what u have told me but it say an error occured applyin
> attributed to file
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> > > >> > thank you
Yoshioka - 28 Jun 2006 18:06 GMT
I EVEN WENT INTO MICROSOF CHAT TO GET HELP BUT THATS IS FULL WERDIOS OF IS
THERE ANYONE WHO AS MSN SO THEY CAN HELP ME LIVE COS MICROSOF CHAT LIVE IS
FULL OF WERDIOS

> Have you done all the things suggested in ChrisM's post?
>
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JoAnn Paules [MVP] - 28 Jun 2006 17:33 GMT
Is the file saved on your hard drive or are you trying to change an
attribute of a file that's on a CD? If so, that can't be done.

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>I think I done what u have told me but it say an error occured applyin
> attributed to file
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>> > >> > me?
>> > >> > thank you
Yoshioka - 28 Jun 2006 18:04 GMT
WELL FLIPPING MICROSOFT NEED A KICKUP THE BACKSIDE THEN

> Is the file saved on your hard drive or are you trying to change an
> attribute of a file that's on a CD? If so, that can't be done.
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JoAnn Paules [MVP] - 28 Jun 2006 18:19 GMT
Why? One a file is on a disk, you can't just change that file. The file MUST
be on your hard drive for you to change it.

And by the way, posting in capital letters is considered yelling. And since
you are requesting help, that would be detrimental to that purpose. As a
matter of fact, that would be rude. You don't want us to think you are rude,
do you?

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> WELL FLIPPING MICROSOFT NEED A KICKUP THE BACKSIDE THEN
>
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Suzanne S. Barnhill - 28 Jun 2006 20:35 GMT
It is obvious that English is not Yoshioka's first language, so he/she may
not be aware how rude he/she is being even without the caps. But I think
general density is at issue here, too. IOW, we're wasting our time. Pretty
soon he/she will conclude that we are "WERDIOS."

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> Why? One a file is on a disk, you can't just change that file. The file MUST
> be on your hard drive for you to change it.
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JoAnn Paules [MVP] - 28 Jun 2006 20:53 GMT
Oh no! Not WERDIOS! I don't want someone to think I'm a WERDIO! (Like it
would be the first time.)

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> It is obvious that English is not Yoshioka's first language, so he/she may
> not be aware how rude he/she is being even without the caps. But I think
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Yoshioka - 29 Jun 2006 10:40 GMT
Ooh no I don’t thk ur wedios infact u have been very helpful, as to me typing
in Caps is there a computer law which say typing in Cap is consider yelling
or rude? I don’t thk so if there is well prove it? As to me bein rude I don’t
have a problem with u its flipping Microsoft I have th problem with we all no
they make complicated software which is programmed not to do certain things
sometime. So we have to go out & buy more of there software!!! as u think
English is not my first language WELL UR WRONG ON THAT IF U R NOT AWEAR
ALREADY THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS A MONGRAL LANGUAGE JUST LIKE ME thank u for
helpin me yesturday

> Oh no! Not WERDIOS! I don't want someone to think I'm a WERDIO! (Like it
> would be the first time.)
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ChrisM - 29 Jun 2006 10:56 GMT
> as to me typing
> in Caps is there a computer law which say typing in Cap is consider
> yelling
> or rude? I don't thk so if there is well prove it?

Well, not a 'law' as such, but just good computer manners.  Some people will
flat refuse to reply to a message typed in CAPS as they just think it
rude...

See Rule 1 (and the others if you're interested)
http://www.kassj.com/netiquette/netiquette.html

Or this:
http://tinyurl.com/n3kwr
(Google search all about using CAPS)

;-)

Cheers,

Chris.
Yoshioka - 29 Jun 2006 11:27 GMT
ooh this is getting silly but I have to say this, that website u mention! No
mention of some off th people with a know disability! Have to use cap in
typing Doc most off th time! Then again able-body people do not take it in to
consideration do thy!

> > as to me typing
> > in Caps is there a computer law which say typing in Cap is consider
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>
> Chris.
ChrisM - 29 Jun 2006 11:50 GMT
Hey,
You didn't mention earlier that you had a disability. If that's the case,
apologies for any offence!
However, that doesn't change the fact that many people WILL get annoyed at
you if you use all caps, unless they know why. I would suggest that is the
Shift key gives you problems, you are better typing in all lower case,
rather than all upper case, then you'll avoid any problems.
As an alternative, you could mention at the end of the message that you have
some a disability that makes typing more difficult for you, that way people
will understand, and (hopefully) not have a go at you.  :-)

Once again, sorry if you took offence.

Hope you have sorted your problem with ReadOnly out...?

Cheers,

ChrisM.

> ooh this is getting silly but I have to say this, that website u mention!
> No
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>> Chris.
TF - 29 Jun 2006 12:28 GMT
Definitely all lower case is preferable. Forgetting about it considered as
shouting, it is all about the brain and readability.

When we read, the brain recognises most words by the shape of the complete
word. The brain rarely needs to examine the individual letters because as a
child it learnt the shapes of words. If words are suddenly all in Caps, the
eye has great difficulty reading the word shape, so it slows down reading
and causes reading fatigue.

Take simple word like 'stop'. The brain easily recognises its short length
and the position of its ascender and decender. Once you write it as STOP,
there are no ascenders or decenders to assist the brain, so it has to
actually look at the letters before recognising the word.

So never use All Caps - even in Titles if it is a long title.

Terry Farrell

: Hey,
: You didn't mention earlier that you had a disability. If that's the case,
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: >> Chris.
Suzanne S. Barnhill - 29 Jun 2006 14:26 GMT
Bashing Microsoft here will not get you more sympathy or help. No one here
is a Microsoft employee, so you are not talking to MS, despite what you
might think. All of us here are fellow users. We may have our problems, too,
and we don't all love or defend everything that MS or Word does, but our
purpose for being here is to help people solve their problems, not to listen
to complaints.

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> Ooh no I don’t thk ur wedios infact u have been very helpful, as to me typing
> in Caps is there a computer law which say typing in Cap is consider yelling
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