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How do I change the reminder default for  "events"?

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Manny - 02 Mar 2005 20:23 GMT
I'm using Outlook 2003, and the default reminder for "events" (all day items
posted in the banner at the top of the calendar day) is pre-set at 18 hours.  
I'd like to change that to 0 hours so the reminder pops up at the beginning
(12:00 am) of the actual day of the event.  I have been doing this manually
each time I create an event, but would like to personalize the default so I
do not have to make this change for each newly scheduled event.  (Changing
the default reminder time under Properties only works for appointments and
meetings; it has no effect on events.)  Any suggestions?
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] - 04 Mar 2005 02:47 GMT
The default is hard coded and cannot be changed.

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After furious head scratching, Manny asked:

| I'm using Outlook 2003, and the default reminder for "events" (all
| day items posted in the banner at the top of the calendar day) is
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| reminder time under Properties only works for appointments and
| meetings; it has no effect on events.)  Any suggestions?
Frustrated - 12 May 2008 22:59 GMT
I've looked through all these posts - is Microsoft going to realise that the
reason everyone is asking why they can't change the default reminder to
something other than 18 hours is because they want to??  And that software is
supposed to do what we want it to do??  Is there a chance that when I get
Outlook 2007 it will allow me to change the default for an all day event?  
(this also seems to be what everyone else wants).  Or should we just all go
out and buy an Apple in the hope that they care about their users more than
Microsoft?
Living in hope.

> The default is hard coded and cannot be changed.
>
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> | reminder time under Properties only works for appointments and
> | meetings; it has no effect on events.)  Any suggestions?
Diane Poremsky {MVP} - 13 May 2008 00:32 GMT
outlook 2007 does not allow you to choose a default reminder time for all
day events. Enjoy your apple. :)

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> I've looked through all these posts - is Microsoft going to realise that
> the
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>> | reminder time under Properties only works for appointments and
>> | meetings; it has no effect on events.)  Any suggestions?
Bob I - 13 May 2008 13:38 GMT
> I've looked through all these posts - is Microsoft going to realise that the
> reason everyone is asking why they can't change the default reminder to
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> out and buy an Apple in the hope that they care about their users more than
> Microsoft?

Let me get this straight, you are going to drop 2-3 thousand dollars on
an Apple computer and software on the remote possibility that you might
be able to "adjust" a particular default reminder?
Kev - 19 Aug 2008 16:16 GMT
This was never a problem for me as my PC was usually off at 6am.  I now use a
Windows Mobile 6.1 phone with ActiveSync and I use the phone as an alarm
clock.  It is annoying to be woke up by a reminder at 6am, an hour before my
alarm goes off.  I even get woken up on a weekend when I need a lie in!!  For
some reason it never did this on my Windows Mobile 2003SE phone.  I have a
lot of planned events in the future and am loathed to have to go through my
Calendar for the forseeable future to change my reminders from 18 hours to
0.5 day.  Poor planning on a planning application but certainly not enough to
convert to Apple.
Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook] - 21 Aug 2008 13:05 GMT
> This was never a problem for me as my PC was usually off at 6am.  I now
> use a
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> to
> convert to Apple.

Ask far as I can tell, all-day events always have an 18 hour default
reminder (when default reminders are enabled) and it can't be changed.
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plinkykev - 15 Sep 2008 10:11 GMT
Seriously, the first post about this is from 2005, and Micro$oft is still
not looking at fixing it, or offering a patch for it?! Seems to me like the
Outlook development team don't sync to their phones or PDA's at all, because
if they did, they would sure fix it fast after being woken up at 6:00AM on a
few mornings because of this stupid setting!!!

How about doing a Google search for: Outlook / all day / 18 hour and see the
*MANY* other people out there upset about this too!

Please look to fix this soon - my kids and I are fed-up with early morning
alarms...
Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook] - 23 Sep 2008 15:31 GMT
> Seriously, the first post about this is from 2005, and Micro$oft is still
> not looking at fixing it, or offering a patch for it?! Seems to me like
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> Please look to fix this soon - my kids and I are fed-up with early morning
> alarms...

How hard can it be to fix the reminder time and not just accept the default?
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Jonas P - 01 Oct 2008 14:32 GMT
Dear Mr. Tillman:
One can indeed change the reminder of one's own all-day appointments to a
more suitable advance notice, or disabled default reminders altogether, but
for the users in my organization, most of whom use Windows Mobile devices, it
is too much to ask for the to change the reminder of every all-day meeting
request they receive as well!

Especially since they are not even given the option to change it in the
invitation e-mail. They would have to accept the invitation, then go to the
calendar, open the same item again and then change the reminder.

Microsoft's combination of...
1. Enabling default reminders by default [sic]
2. Allowing for the user's changing of only one out of two default reminder
times
3. Allowing the meeting organizer's reminder setting to override the
invitee's default preference without any visual cues or an easy way to change
said reminder when receiving the invite
4. Choosing to set the almost idotic hard coded default reminder to 06:00
(-18 h) for an all-day appointment
5. Not hearing user complaints for the last, say, five years
...is quite depressing for its customers.

Especially for the ones using Windows Mobile and getting woken up by
reminders for appointments they did not even organize.

Sincerely,
Jonas

Hearing user

> How hard can it be to fix the reminder time and not just accept the default?
Jonas P - 01 Oct 2008 14:53 GMT
[Sorry for my two grammar mistakes there in the first paragraph of my
previous post.]

Dear Mr. Tillman (again):

I just read similar posts from you in the Outlook Forum over at
office-outlook.com, and I can but conclude that you do not work in a large
organization where you frequently receive meeting requests from others, with
reminders set.

Or maybe you do not have a Windows Mobile device waking you up; or maybe you
are up and about at 06:00 every day (including Sundays, in case you receive
all-day meeting requests for Mondays).

Sorry about getting fresh, but judging from your previous posts, it seems
you are all into that thing.     :o)

Sincerely,
Jonas
Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook] - 01 Oct 2008 16:35 GMT
> I just read similar posts from you in the Outlook Forum over at
> office-outlook.com, and I can but conclude that you do not work in a large
> organization where you frequently receive meeting requests from others,
> with
> reminders set.

Your conclusion would be wrong.  I work for a company with 300,000 employees
and I usually accept (or reject) 15 to 20 meeting requests each week.  I
have always had the ability to override the reminder BEFORE accepting the
request and I always change it to suit myself if I don't like what the
request contains.

> Or maybe you do not have a Windows Mobile device waking you up; or maybe
> you
> are up and about at 06:00 every day (including Sundays, in case you
> receive
> all-day meeting requests for Mondays).

I do have a Windows Mobile device and it never wakes me up because I always
mute it before going to bed.  It takes all of two seconds.

> Sorry about getting fresh, but judging from your previous posts, it seems
> you are all into that thing.     :o)

You can be as fresh or as stale as you wish.
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Andre Peppiatt - 15 Sep 2008 14:15 GMT
When Outlook was first conceived there were very few people using Activesync
with their mobile phones / PDAs etc. so there would not have been many people
getting disturbed by their PCs alarming at 6:00 am.  Now that there are many
people synchronising their calendars onto the Windows Mobile devices that
they keep beside their beds at night I would think that there are a lot of
very frustrated people out there silently cursing Outlook .

People use the most convenient feature of their software and double clicking
to set up an All Day Event (for say a Birthday, or a day out of the office)
is the quickest, simplest thing to do.  As it's quick and simple most people
won't spend the time looking through all of the options to change the
reminder time for the Event.  Since the principle of configurable reminders
has been set for apointments can we not have an update to make Event
reminders configurable and to save a lot of cursing at 6:00 am each time the
alarm for a next day Event goes off ?

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> > This was never a problem for me as my PC was usually off at 6am.  I now
> > use a
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> Ask far as I can tell, all-day events always have an 18 hour default
> reminder (when default reminders are enabled) and it can't be changed.
Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook] - 23 Sep 2008 15:33 GMT
> People use the most convenient feature of their software and double
> clicking
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> the
> alarm for a next day Event goes off ?

Open a support incident with Microsoft and complain.  If enough people do,
perhaps they'll listen.
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KentishScot - 23 Sep 2008 16:56 GMT
I too have been looking at the default time for events. Because I have synced
three different sources I have alarms going off a 23:45 as well as 06:00.
I think the easiest way to sort this out is for the default alarm time to be
set to the User's working hours setting I used to have this function when I
used my Psion 5mx so it is possible.

KentishScot

> > People use the most convenient feature of their software and double
> > clicking
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> Open a support incident with Microsoft and complain.  If enough people do,
> perhaps they'll listen.
Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook] - 24 Sep 2008 13:32 GMT
>I too have been looking at the default time for events. Because I have
>synced
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> I
> used my Psion 5mx so it is possible.

You'll have to contact Microsoft directly and tell them that if you hope to
ever see it.
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