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PROBLEM CREATING THE SIMPLEST EVENTS VIEW

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macbcn - 09 Nov 2005 10:42 GMT
I want to view a list of the recurring events (such as birthdays) that I have
introduced in my calendar, and have them sorted by "date", chronologically. I
would like to have something like:

Subject                                     Date
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Maria's birthday                         January 5
John's birthday                           March 21
Kevin's birthday                          June 1
Louise's birthday                        Novemeber 10

This list is very simple, but there is no "Date" field, there is a "start
date", but it's showing the begining of the recurrence, which is year 1900,
totally useless info for this list.

Thanks for your help.

Iván
Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] - 09 Nov 2005 13:58 GMT
Outlook simply can't do what you want because it does not store just the month and day for a birthday, but the full birth date.

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>I want to view a list of the recurring events (such as birthdays) that I have
> introduced in my calendar, and have them sorted by "date", chronologically. I
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macbcn - 09 Nov 2005 14:51 GMT
So does that mean that I cannot display a list of the events of the whole
year sorted chronologically within the year, including those with recurrences?

Thx  /  iván

> Outlook simply can't do what you want because it does not store just the month and day for a birthday, but the full birth date.
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Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] - 09 Nov 2005 22:15 GMT
Correct. Outlook cannot display such a list.

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> So does that mean that I cannot display a list of the events of the whole
> year sorted chronologically within the year, including those with recurrences?
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macbcn - 09 Nov 2005 17:27 GMT
Even further, I shouldn't mind whether Outlook stores the month and the day,
or whether it stores the full birth date, nor the way it stores that, I'm a
user, shouldn't Outlook do something for me and not the other way around??

Outlook is the best, the biggest, and whatever else you want to add to this
list, so I can't be less than surprised and amazed with such an answer, dear
Sue. No matter how Outlook stores it, as a user I am not to know how to help
Outlook, but the other way around, or that's what I always thought. As an IT
professional, if Outlook does not store this information separatedly, for
sure it should be possible to display any items in a calendar sorted
chronologically within that view.

Hence, I cannot believe that Outlook does not allow me to display or print a
list with all the recurrent events of the year, sorted chronologically within
that year: what's happening month by month, and obviously I want to see
what's on the 5th day of a month before than seeing what's on the 9th of the
same month, even though the recurrence of the 9th started before than the one
on the 5th.

Thanks again  /  iván.

> Outlook simply can't do what you want because it does not store just the month and day for a birthday, but the full birth date.
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macbcn - 09 Nov 2005 17:27 GMT
Even further, I shouldn't mind whether Outlook stores the month and the day,
or whether it stores the full birth date, nor the way it stores that, I'm a
user, shouldn't Outlook do something for me and not the other way around??

Outlook is the best, the biggest, and whatever else you want to add to this
list, so I can't be less than surprised and amazed with such an answer, dear
Sue. No matter how Outlook stores it, as a user I am not to know how to help
Outlook, but the other way around, or that's what I always thought. As an IT
professional, if Outlook does not store this information separatedly, for
sure it should be possible to display any items in a calendar sorted
chronologically within that view.

Hence, I cannot believe that Outlook does not allow me to display or print a
list with all the recurrent events of the year, sorted chronologically within
that year: what's happening month by month, and obviously I want to see
what's on the 5th day of a month before than seeing what's on the 9th of the
same month, even though the recurrence of the 9th started before than the one
on the 5th.

Thanks again  /  iván.

> Outlook simply can't do what you want because it does not store just the month and day for a birthday, but the full birth date.
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Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook] - 10 Nov 2005 01:49 GMT
It's just a workaround, of course, but I created two custom fields for my
birthdays, anniversaries and holidays (actually I created the custom fields
for the whole Calendar folder and only filled them in for these days).  I
created a Month field and used the naming convention of "01 - Jan", "02 -
Feb", etc. so the months would sort in the proper order.  Then the Day field
holds the day of the month number.  Like I said, maybe Outlook should do this
natively, but my workaround works for me for now.

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> Even further, I shouldn't mind whether Outlook stores the month and the day,
> or whether it stores the full birth date, nor the way it stores that, I'm a
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macbcn - 10 Nov 2005 08:30 GMT
Thanks for your reply, Jocelyn.

The problem is that surely any standard home user will drop Outlook before
getting there, and I find it unbelievable than an agenda cannot display a
list of items sorted chronologically per ocurrence... it sounds like having a
cellphone that cannot call numbers that cointain number "5"... what sense
does that have? nothing at all, especially bearing in mind that Outlook is
supposed to be the worldwide standard...

thx / iván.

> It's just a workaround, of course, but I created two custom fields for my
> birthdays, anniversaries and holidays (actually I created the custom fields
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Jocelyn Fiorello [MVP - Outlook] - 11 Nov 2005 00:50 GMT
Being that I am mostly a home user of Outlook, I wholeheartedly agree with
you  :-)

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macbcn - 09 Nov 2005 17:31 GMT
my apologies for repeating last msg, sorry.

thx  /  iván.

> Outlook simply can't do what you want because it does not store just the month and day for a birthday, but the full birth date.
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