MS Office Forum / Outlook / Calendaring / February 2006
Outlook vs. Ontime
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Anna B - 04 Jan 2006 14:38 GMT We are moving from an old version of Ontime to Outlook Calendar using Microsoft Exchange Server. We are a small office and we can all view each other's calendars. In Ontime, we can do a "group add" and have an appointment appear on everyone's calendar, however, I cannot figure out how to do this on Outlook.
Can anyone tell me how I can add an appointment to multiple calendars without having to type it more than once and without having to "invite" them. Thanks.
Brian Tillman - 04 Jan 2006 16:02 GMT > We are moving from an old version of Ontime to Outlook Calendar using > Microsoft Exchange Server. We are a small office and we can all view > each other's calendars. In Ontime, we can do a "group add" and have > an appointment appear on everyone's calendar, however, I cannot > figure out how to do this on Outlook. Because you can't. They're no mechanism in Outlook or Exchange to place an appointment on multiple calendars without an invitation or via drag-and-drop to each calendar (provided they're shared).
> Can anyone tell me how I can add an appointment to multiple calendars > without having to type it more than once and without having to > "invite" them. Thanks. Since you're using Exchange, public calendars are a good tool for this.
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Taylor - 05 Jan 2006 18:57 GMT >> We are moving from an old version of Ontime to Outlook Calendar using >> Microsoft Exchange Server. We are a small office and we can all view [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Since you're using Exchange, public calendars are a good tool for this. Can't you add a distribution list as an attendee? You could create a distribution list called "everyone" and invite them. This would invite everyone to the meeting I believe. Alternatively, you could create a public folder as a shared calendar. One person is appointed to manage calendar, which everyone can view.
Anna B - 05 Jan 2006 15:40 GMT I tried to drag and drop a test appt to the other persons in our office. Rather than it copying over, it simply moved it. How do I drag and drop? Also, now that I have done this, I can't get the appointments off of the other's calendars. How do I do this? We are supposed to be set up to modify and change each other's calendars, I guess as an "editor" of each other's calendars. Is this the problem? Should I check co-workers properties and make sure assign all of us as editors?
Also, we each have two calendars under "My Calendar". One just says "Calendar" and the other says "Calendar in Mailbox - Person's Name". What is the purpose of having two calendars? Can one be deleted, or do we need it?
> We are moving from an old version of Ontime to Outlook Calendar using > Microsoft Exchange Server. We are a small office and we can all view each [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > without having to type it more than once and without having to "invite" them. > Thanks. Brian Tillman - 06 Jan 2006 16:33 GMT > I tried to drag and drop a test appt to the other persons in our > office. Rather than it copying over, it simply moved it. How do I > drag and drop? Right-click drag-and-drop. When you release the mouse button you'll be a context menu offering the choice to copy. Alternatively, you can select the option and click Edit>Copy
> Also, now that I have done this, I can't get the > appointments off of the other's calendars. How do I do this? We are > supposed to be set up to modify and change each other's calendars, I > guess as an "editor" of each other's calendars. Sounds like the other person hasn't granted you proper permission to delete items.
> Also, we each have two calendars under "My Calendar". One just says > "Calendar" and the other says "Calendar in Mailbox - Person's Name". > What is the purpose of having two calendars? Can one be deleted, or > do we need it? Is "Person's Name" your name of the name of someone else?
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Anna B - 06 Jan 2006 16:49 GMT Hi Brian,
The person's name is mine. We have a local folder containing calendar items, and then a "mailbox calendar" containing calendar items. When I try to "invite someone to a meeting, it seems to me that when I accept, the appt would apply to the "mailbox" calendar as opposed to my personal calendar, however, it goes to the personal calendar. Why would that be? Is there a reason why we need both calendars? We do have a POP e-mail system, which is our main system, and then a Microsoft exchange e-mail system, which was set up for the use of this calendar.
> > I tried to drag and drop a test appt to the other persons in our > > office. Rather than it copying over, it simply moved it. How do I [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Is "Person's Name" your name of the name of someone else? Brian Tillman - 06 Jan 2006 17:07 GMT > The person's name is mine. We have a local folder containing calendar > items, and then a "mailbox calendar" containing calendar items. Then you're using Exchange and the "mailbox" is your Exchange mailbox. You should be using your mailbox as the delivery location. That's the only way to share calendars.
> When > I try to "invite someone to a meeting, it seems to me that when I > accept, the appt would apply to the "mailbox" calendar as opposed to > my personal calendar, however, it goes to the personal calendar. Because you have your delivery location set to a PST instead of the Exchange mailbox.
> Is there a reason why we need both calendars? We do > have a POP e-mail system, which is our main system, and then a > Microsoft exchange e-mail system, which was set up for the use of > this calendar. Why not have Exchange be the maiin mail system? It can easily be configured to send external messages through your ISP. A log of your problems would go away, in my opinion, if you were to do this.
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Anna B - 06 Jan 2006 17:53 GMT Can you tell me what needs to be done to configure Exchange to send external messages through our ISP? I believe the issue is that we do not want to have to change our e-mail addresses. Alternatively, is there a way to configure this to put the items on our "exchange" calendar and leave it as is?
It is definitely a problem because when we receive an "invitation" to a meeting, and then we "accept", the address is not recognized and the "accept" is sent back to the sender. Then, the mail system is defaulted over to the "Exchange" server, so that the next time you send out an e-mail, it tries to send it there, and it is again sent back.
I am trying to get our IT person out here in a couple of days and I would like to know all of the options. Thanks so much for your help.
> > The person's name is mine. We have a local folder containing calendar > > items, and then a "mailbox calendar" containing calendar items. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > to send external messages through your ISP. A log of your problems would go > away, in my opinion, if you were to do this. Brian Tillman - 06 Jan 2006 20:04 GMT > Can you tell me what needs to be done to configure Exchange to send > external messages through our ISP? No, sorry. That's a question for news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.exchange.admin
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TimothyS - 04 Feb 2006 19:29 GMT Assuming you have registered a domain name already (like mycompany.com), have it currently hosted with an ISP, are using associated email addresses (like anne@mycompany.com), and have a static IP address for your Internet connection (ie, cable or DSL)... You can easily move from POP3 email addresses to pure Exchange email addresses without changing your address.
With this scenario, it is a matter of changing the MX records to point to your static IP address at your office, open port 25 on the firewall and direct to the Exchange server - be sure the server is secured with all its patches, AV (like Trend Micro ScanMail), and (optionally) set IMF for Exchange 2003 SP2 BEFORE setting Exchange to receive mail directly. One more note, be sure to have your static IP address resolve to your external mail server name (ie, mail.mycompany.com resolves to x.x.x.x and x.x.x.x resolves to mail.mycompany.com). I would make the changes for all this on a Friday afternoon to allow for DNS replication over the weekend. That's the basics of it anyway.
If you are still using your ISP's domain name in your email addresses, then you need to decide if switching to mycompany.com email addresses is what you want to do. Personally, I believe it is well worth it - having used and administered many Exchange servers at several organizations. Exchange provides a LOT more control and flexibility for your email and scheduling needs than POP3 alone. POP3 and Exchange mailboxes as a combo (like you are doing now) just complicates matters for you.
Alternatively for the calendaring issue, you could create a separate account in Exchange called "Master Calendar", set the permissions on the account to allow everyone (or select people) to create/modify/delete/see only the calendar item in the mailbox, then add it as a second account to view from within Outlook. The Public Folder Calendar option works great too and will have less adminitrative needs. Likewise, you can create a Public Contacts and Tasks lists in the Public Folders too - and set specific permissions (either group or individual) on every list or folder too!
Another suggestion: Use Outlook 2003, configure it for cache mode (after switching purely to Exchange mailboxes), and set the Junk E-mail options appropriately (most like the "High" setting lately) to work with IMF for controlling SPAM.
Good luck!
TimothyS - [MCP] Systems Administrator
> Can you tell me what needs to be done to configure Exchange to send external > messages through our ISP? I believe the issue is that we do not want to have [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > to send external messages through your ISP. A log of your problems would go > > away, in my opinion, if you were to do this.
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