MS Office Forum / Outlook / Calendaring / March 2008
Calendar Views For Contacts
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Gregory Winters - 08 Mar 2008 21:26 GMT The easiest way to get this across would be to simply describe the situation - it's fairly straightforward. Doctor's office has staff assigned in the domain, each with their own Exchange mailbox. Obviously, they all have their own calendars, so the Front Desk personnel can easily call these up and arrange them on the desktop so that when a patient calls in and asks for an appointment, the user can see which staff person is available and book the appointment accordingly.
Here's the rub...
Patients in this line of medicine are parts of a complex treatment program which consists of different staff members, different tests and appointment types, different series of logical flows, etc., and it can get quite difficult to manage it all. There are times when the Patients call the office staff and ask questions in regard to their programs and the staff must struggle with browsing through Outlook to try and get the information.
All of the Patients are given a common dump mail address in Exchange so that 'messages' can be sent to them and the Address Book can function properly, but it is not feasible to provide them their own mailbox.
What the users would like to be able to do is 'call up' a particular Patient's appointment schedule - past, present and future - in some sort of calendar view to review with the Patient. If it isn't a bona fide calendar interface, per se, can we get anything at all which is Contact-based to show where a particular Contact has been scheduled, sent appointments, etc., in the database?
Many thanks in advance,
Greg
Diane Poremsky [MVP] - 10 Mar 2008 04:05 GMT Which version of outlook? While outlook 2007 might work good for this scenario (because you can overlay calendars) Outlook in general is probably not the best for this scenario. Although each contact can display associated activities, it only shows the ones in the current mailbox.
In this situation a central public folder calendar for scheduling would probably work best if Outlook don't have Outlook 2007. Custom views filtered by patient would work good, but not the easiest to implement for each patient.
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> The easiest way to get this across would be to simply describe the > situation [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Greg Gregory Winters - 10 Mar 2008 04:24 GMT Outlook 2003. Not sure exactly what you're saying here. All patients have a 'current' mailbox - the same one. There is no requirement to see a calendar, as such, it only needs to reveal their appointment activity, such as a Journal entry. Are you suggesting a business process workaround?
Why wouldn't the filtered approach for each patient work? I'd need the ability to see all Patients before I could see one, anyway, correct?
Greg
> Which version of outlook? While outlook 2007 might work good for this > scenario (because you can overlay calendars) Outlook in general is probably [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > > > Greg Diane Poremsky [MVP] - 10 Mar 2008 13:00 GMT Each patient or each employee has a mailbox? Are you trying to look the appointments up in the journal or calendar?
If all the patient appointments are in one calendar, create a filtered view for the patient. However, in reality, Outlook and Exchange is not the best for scheduling appointments and there is better medical scheduling software available.
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> Outlook 2003. Not sure exactly what you're saying here. All patients > have a [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] >> > >> > Greg Gregory Winters - 10 Mar 2008 23:09 GMT Each employee is a proper member of the domain, so the Outlook Front Desk user can simply stagger their calendars side by side and see all of the doctors' availablilty for any one day, or expand the view of any individual doctor's calendar. That's not the problem here.
Each *patient*, however, shares the SAME mailbox because Outlook won't allow any sort of messaging event to transpire with anyone who does not have a valid email address. (Since we do not wish to manage actual messages to real email addresses, we assign each patient to this 'dump' mailbox.)
We will try this filtered view you are referring to, but I'm curious as to your comments that Outlook and Exchange are not well suited for appointment scheduling. It would seem to me that this would be a core competency of any alleged 'contact management' software! I'm aware that there are other 'medical software' solutions out there, but they are proprietary and involve a great deal of additional cost to purchase and implement.
Greg
> Each patient or each employee has a mailbox? Are you trying to look the > appointments up in the journal or calendar? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > for scheduling appointments and there is better medical scheduling software > available. Diane Poremsky [MVP] - 11 Mar 2008 00:30 GMT Outlook is a contact manager - its not a good patient manager, especially in a large office. My docs and dentist use an electronic version of the old appointment book - it may be expensive but it seems to work well without a lot of effort on the part of the receptionists doing the booking. If it saves at least 2 minutes each time the receptionist needs to bring up patient information, the ROI is fairly short.
I'm not sure why you need "messaging events" for patients. Most professionals who try to use Outlook as an appointment scheduler use public folders for contacts and the scheduling calendar.
There is no reason why you can't show the patients calendar side by side with the office staff. A filtered view should work, but it will require editing the view (or creating a new one) when you need to bring up a patient. You can save views for frequent patients but there is a limit to the number of views you can have - I forget if its 50 or 128.
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> Each employee is a proper member of the domain, so the Outlook Front Desk > user can simply stagger their calendars side by side and see all of the [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> software >> available. Gregory Winters - 11 Mar 2008 03:58 GMT Outlook wants to communicate with the contacts in its database before it will allow access to the items in it. If a contact has no email address, then Outlook won't allow certain elements of the tool to be available for that contact. Remove an email address from one of your contacts and see how the menu choices are reduced.
The reason I can't step outside of Outlook for this one calendar piece is that the entire rest of the database is working just fine: Address Book, emails, and a custom form which we developed that includes over 100 user-defined fields. Outlook's licenses come with the Exch
> Outlook is a contact manager - its not a good patient manager, especially in > a large office. My docs and dentist use an electronic version of the old [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > patient. You can save views for frequent patients but there is a limit to > the number of views you can have - I forget if its 50 or 128. Brian Tillman - 10 Mar 2008 21:33 GMT > Outlook 2003. Not sure exactly what you're saying here. All > patients have a 'current' mailbox - the same one. There is no > requirement to see a calendar, as such, it only needs to reveal their > appointment activity, such as a Journal entry. If they all use the same mailbox, each will be able to see all information. I would think that might be a HIPPA violation.
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Gregory Winters - 10 Mar 2008 23:13 GMT Although all patients 'use' the same mailbox, they have no access to the domain and can never 'see' it. It's simply a repository for Outlook messages in order to book appointments. There are no HIPAA ramifications.
Think 'day planner' and you will understand what I'm trying to do. Back in the 'old days,' when you went into a doctor's office and asked for an appointment, the receptionist got out a big book and thumbed through the office appointments to be able to see when the next available time slot was.
If the receptionist had modern tools, s/he could simply filter the book either by doctor or by patient and screen out all other irrelevant individuals. It's that simple. My question has been: I see how to do this for those who have calendars by virtue of being members of the domain, but why can't I do this same thing with those who are not as long as I'm willing to manage those calendars myself?
The 'filtered view' idea seems worth pursuing, but I'm wondering if there are any 'cleaner' methods.
Thanks.
Greg
> > Outlook 2003. Not sure exactly what you're saying here. All > > patients have a 'current' mailbox - the same one. There is no [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If they all use the same mailbox, each will be able to see all information. > I would think that might be a HIPPA violation.
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