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I want to export "Nicknames" when exporting my Outlook Contacts, .

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Owen Roberts - 24 Jan 2005 10:23 GMT
I want to export "Nicknames" when exporting my Outlook Contacts, but I seem
unable to do so I can find no option in the Export wizard, nor the Import one.
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 24 Jan 2005 10:38 GMT
Provide your Outlook version.
Clarify what you mean by "nicknames"
The nickname field is included in the Contact Record when you copy your
Outlook Data File.
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Russ Valentine
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>I want to export "Nicknames" when exporting my Outlook Contacts, but I seem
> unable to do so I can find no option in the Export wizard, nor the Import
> one.
Owen Roberts - 25 Jan 2005 16:39 GMT
Version 2003 (Running under XP SP1)
I mean the feild called "Nickname" by outlook i.e. the only "Name" field not
listed in the export wizard.

> Provide your Outlook version.
> Clarify what you mean by "nicknames"
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> > unable to do so I can find no option in the Export wizard, nor the Import
> > one.
Owen Roberts - 25 Jan 2005 16:51 GMT
Additional info I just used the Export wizard to export my contacts to an
excel file and the data held in the nickname field visable when looking at my
contacts in "'phone list" view is NOT repeat NOT exported

> Provide your Outlook version.
> Clarify what you mean by "nicknames"
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> > unable to do so I can find no option in the Export wizard, nor the Import
> > one.
Owen Roberts - 25 Jan 2005 17:15 GMT
Possibly you could point me to the Nickname field from this list as copied
from the exported Excel File

Title    FirstName   MiddleName    LastName Suffix

Company Department  JobTitle

BusinessStreet BusinessStreet2    BusinessStreet3    BusinessCity BusinessState
BusinessPostalCode    BusinessCountry   

HomeStreet    HomeStreet2    HomeStreet3    HomeCity
HomeState    HomePostalCode    HomeCountry

OtherStreet    OtherStreet2    OtherStreet3    OtherCity
OtherState    OtherPostalCode    OtherCountry

AssistantsPhone    BusinessFax    BusinessPhone BusinessPhone2
Callback    CarPhone    CompanyMainPhone
HomeFax    HomePhone    HomePhone2    ISDN
MobilePhone    OtherFax    OtherPhone    Pager
PrimaryPhone    RadioPhone    TTYTDDPhone    Telex
Account    Anniversary    AssistantsName    BillingInformation
Birthday    BusinessAddressPOBox    Categories
Children    DirectoryServer   
EmailAddress    EmailType    EmailDisplayName
Email2Address    Email2Type    Email2DisplayName
Email3Address    Email3Type    Email3DisplayName
Gender    GovernmentIDNumber    Hobby    HomeAddressPOBox
Initials    InternetFreeBusy    Keywords
Language1    Location    ManagersName    Mileage    Notes
OfficeLocation    OrganizationalIDNumber    OtherAddressPOBox
Priority    Private    Profession    ReferredBy
Sensitivity    Spouse    User1    User2    User3    User4
WebPage

> Provide your Outlook version.
> Clarify what you mean by "nicknames"
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> > unable to do so I can find no option in the Export wizard, nor the Import
> > one.
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 25 Jan 2005 19:14 GMT
Nicknames do not survive exports. A lot of other data doesn't either. Note
that I said it would only survive if you copy and reuse the PST file.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> Possibly you could point me to the Nickname field from this list as copied
> from the exported Excel File
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>> > Import
>> > one.
Owen Roberts - 25 Jan 2005 20:05 GMT
Actualy no you did not mention PST files at all.
In the "Real World" Nicknames are what most of us use after all that's why
MS have them included in Outlook.
So essentialy Nicknames can only be used within Outlook, or can PST files be
used by any other Office pprograms, if so which?

> Nicknames do not survive exports. A lot of other data doesn't either. Note
> that I said it would only survive if you copy and reuse the PST file.
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> >> > Import
> >> > one.
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 25 Jan 2005 21:48 GMT
Yes I did. PST files and Outlook Data Files are the same thing. They can
only be used by Outlook.
I guess everyone's "real world" is different. Actually, I find very few
users who make extensive use of the Nickname field or who need to export
their data to other formats very often.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> Actualy no you did not mention PST files at all.
> In the "Real World" Nicknames are what most of us use after all that's why
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Owen Roberts - 26 Jan 2005 09:03 GMT
Thanks (for nothing)

Maybe you should be more specific/consistant in your use of terminology

I supose ther fact there are "Very Few" using the nickname field is why you
have had to enquire of all of those asking about it, more than a dozen as we
"Speak" , what they mean by "Nickname" .

> Yes I did. PST files and Outlook Data Files are the same thing. They can
> only be used by Outlook.
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> >> >> > one.
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 26 Jan 2005 10:13 GMT
No need to get snippy with me. It's easy for you to know what you mean. Not
for me. In actual fact, most people who post about "nicknames" in this group
are not even talking the nickname field. They are talking about the email
aliases used in autocompletion or autoresolution. And most people who
inquire about exporting have no need to use the export function at all
because they have no need to change file formats. Answer a few thousand
posts then see how critical you are of others.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> Thanks (for nothing)
>
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Owen Roberts - 27 Jan 2005 09:21 GMT
Strange how the "Lite" version of Outlook, Outlook Express will work with
"Nicknames" and the Full Function version won't.
Typical Microsoft

> No need to get snippy with me. It's easy for you to know what you mean. Not
> for me. In actual fact, most people who post about "nicknames" in this group
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 27 Jan 2005 10:10 GMT
I know. Microsoft confused everyone with IMO. It wasn't so much a "lite"
version as a completely different program that had the same name.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> Strange how the "Lite" version of Outlook, Outlook Express will work with
> "Nicknames" and the Full Function version won't.
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David Broere - 28 Jan 2005 02:41 GMT
When I was asked if this post was helpful to me I had to say "YES" it was
helpful to know how low this appears to be on Microsoft list of things that
are meaningful.  
AND  I read the post too Russ - and I agree, you seemed to be more intent on
defending yourself than honestly admiting there is an issue that MS didn't
have an answer for.  Then, to make matters worse, you effectively tell Owen
his need isn't important because MS has found that no one cares about
Nicknames!   GROW UP.  

Nearly every Ham Radio Operator wants to use the call letters as a nickname
for the user.  My Ham friend mentioned this to me the other day.  this is
only one of many times I've heard of this issue.
   

> I know. Microsoft confused everyone with IMO. It wasn't so much a "lite"
> version as a completely different program that had the same name.
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 28 Jan 2005 10:20 GMT
You never clarified what it is you need the Nickname field to do that you
can't do now. The only features really missing are the fact that you can't
use the Nickname field for address lookup and that it won't survive an
export to a foreign file format. The reason few people miss these features
is that the new autocompletion feature has now replaced the need for address
lookup and that not many users have an ongoing need to export their Outlook
data to other file formats. You interpret my answers very inaccurately. I'm
only telling you that these two features are not commonly requested and so
are not likely to be addressed. I don't understand the need to attack me
personally for the answers.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> When I was asked if this post was helpful to me I had to say "YES" it was
> helpful to know how low this appears to be on Microsoft list of things
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Owen Roberts - 31 Jan 2005 10:47 GMT
So once again the great and all knowing MS is right and the rest of the world
is out of step.

If I want to export MY data for whatever prupose I want then, irispective of
the fact (or suposed fact) that there is another way of doing it, I should be
able to do so. It is not your place nor MS's place to place restrictions on
what I do or do not do with MY data

> You never clarified what it is you need the Nickname field to do that you
> can't do now. The only features really missing are the fact that you can't
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 31 Jan 2005 11:29 GMT
I agree with you. It is a bug that should be fixed.
I was simply explaining that there are workarounds and why it is a problem
that has received little attention.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> So once again the great and all knowing MS is right and the rest of the
> world
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