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Old entries are in last name, first name order, but not new ones.

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davpat - 15 Feb 2005 16:01 GMT
I add a new entry to contacts.  It appears correct in the contacts list (in
order of “file as”).  But, when I start a new mail message, and I click on
the “To” button (or click address book) my old entries are in last name,
first name order, but my new entries are in first name, last name order.
erkorb@hotmail.com - 15 Feb 2005 16:19 GMT
Double check your Contact Folder settings in Outlook:

Tools, Options, Preferences, Contacts Options, Default Order.

Also, if you have synced your contacts with a PDA, sometimes they switch out
the first name, last name.  Even though they appear correct in File As, they
could be reversed.  To check this, open a "suspect" contact, click on Full
Name button, make sure the last name and first name in the correct boxes.

Hope this helps.

Erok

> I add a new entry to contacts.  It appears correct in the contacts list (in
> order of "file as").  But, when I start a new mail message, and I click on
> the "To" button (or click address book) my old entries are in last name,
> first name order, but my new entries are in first name, last name order.
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 15 Feb 2005 19:41 GMT
No. Wrong place. That will affect how the name appears in the Contacts
Folder, which the original poster said was correct.
Instead, the sort order of the Outlook Address Book must be configured:
Go to Tools > E-mail accounts > View or change existing directories or
address books > Outlook Address Book > Change. > Set your sort order there
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> Double check your Contact Folder settings in Outlook:
>
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>> the "To" button (or click address book) my old entries are in last name,
>> first name order, but my new entries are in first name, last name order.
davpat - 15 Feb 2005 22:11 GMT
Thanks, but it didn't work.  I put a new entry and when I look in address
book, or click on "to" it still is not listed correctly.

> No. Wrong place. That will affect how the name appears in the Contacts
> Folder, which the original poster said was correct.
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> >> the "To" button (or click address book) my old entries are in last name,
> >> first name order, but my new entries are in first name, last name order.
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 15 Feb 2005 22:59 GMT
You haven't told me anything yet.
What did you do?
What sort order did you choose?
What is the format of your File As... fields, and is it the same for new
Contacts as it is for old ones?
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> Thanks, but it didn't work.  I put a new entry and when I look in address
> book, or click on "to" it still is not listed correctly.
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>> >> first name order, but my new entries are in first name, last name
>> >> order.
davpat - 16 Feb 2005 15:57 GMT
The old contacts were transferred from OE.  In OE address book, old and new
are listed according to how I tell it to "display" (Last, First).  After
transferring to Outlook, I set up my contacts to have "file as" as my first
column.  I've used several sort orders for contacts, and am familiar with the
different views and way it works.  In "contact options" the default full name
is "first last", and default file as is "last first".  I tried changing these
and it still does not affect the way address book or the "To" button lists
them.

> You haven't told me anything yet.
> What did you do?
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> >> >> first name order, but my new entries are in first name, last name
> >> >> order.
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 16 Feb 2005 23:17 GMT
Aha. Unfortunately, all bets are off with imported Contacts. You have no
control whatsoever as to what their File As... fields will be. You will need
to reset them to get the sorting behavior you want if you have chosen to
sort the Outlook Address Book by the File As... field. You also need to
verify the sort order you specified for the Outlook Address Book. You never
confirmed that setting.

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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> The old contacts were transferred from OE.  In OE address book, old and
> new
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>> >> >> first name order, but my new entries are in first name, last name
>> >> >> order.
 
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