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Birthdays/Anniversaries & Activesync/WMDC

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Sean - 15 Sep 2007 05:06 GMT
Good evening and thx in advance for all help.

I have sought advice from my mobile provider (TMobile - using the dash
phone) and was told by their 3rd level engineers to ask the Outlook experts.

I am using Office 2003 SP 2.  I am currently using Vista Home Premium with
Mobile Device Center but have experienced the same issue since XP Pro SP 2
with Activesync 4.5 and earlier.

I have no duplicate birthdays or anniversaries for my contacts in Outlook.  
However when I sync to my cell phone and look at the Calendar on my cell,
several (but far from all) of these recurring birthdays and anniversaries
appear as "John Doe's Birthday/Anniversary (1)."  Some say 2, 3, or 4 in the
().

I imagine that the () is due to a duplicate entry at some point, just as if
you tried to copy a file with the same name to the same folder and it would
append a (1) to the end of the file name.

Question is why can I not see this in Outlook on my PC?  In Outlook,
everything appears spot on.  I have had duplicate entries in the past for one
reason or another but I have long eliminated these.  I have also tried
deleting the birthday or anniversary from the Outlook Calendar (deleting the
series) and separately tried deleting it through the Activities Tab in the
Contact itself.  Then I go back to the respective fields in the contact and
re-add the dates I need.  I think this has resulted in the further
appendages, ie. (2), (3), (4).  There are also many of my contacts birthdays
and anniversaries that read correctly on the calendar on my cell, but I
cannot discern a reason, as I know I have tried to force a (1) etc. on
certain contacts unsuccessfully.

It is more annoying than anything to not have consistency in the calendar
view on my cell phone.  I am sorry for the long post and if I need to further
clarify any part of this issue please let me know and I will do so.

I have searched far and wide for a solution or even just a clue to no avail.
MVPs please shed some light for me.

Thanks for all you do.
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 15 Sep 2007 12:15 GMT
Unfortunately this is not an Outlook issue. Synchronization problems are
exclusively within the purview of the synchronization software. If T-mobile
doesn't know how to support that, you might try in an Activsync or Windows
Mobile group.
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> Good evening and thx in advance for all help.
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Sean - 15 Sep 2007 14:00 GMT
Thank you for getting on that so quickly Russ.

However, does the sync software not pull this information from my Outlook
Contacts/Calendar? I cannot fathom why many items appear incorrectly if the
duplication does not originate on the windows system a la Outlook.  The sync
software is just supposed to pull the data over from Outlook to the phone
without any manipulation of data.  If it was the sync software I would think
ALL birthdays and anniversaries would have a (x) but that is simply not the
case.  Many do appear fine.

If you are positive that this issue resides with ActiveSync And the new WMDC
for Vista users, can you please give me direction to the appropriate location
to seek an answer?  Thanks Russ.

> Unfortunately this is not an Outlook issue. Synchronization problems are
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 15 Sep 2007 14:51 GMT
Outlook's only role in synchronization is to provide a consistent database
and interface to the various synch programs. Any problems that arise with
synchronization are a result of the synch program, not Outlook. There are
newsgroups for both Activsync and Window Mobile on these news servers.
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Sean - 15 Sep 2007 15:44 GMT
Thank you sir, you are in fact The Man.

> Outlook's only role in synchronization is to provide a consistent database
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Sean - 15 Sep 2007 23:12 GMT
Can you please better direct to those groups?  I seem to be having a hard
time finding them.

> Thank you sir, you are in fact The Man.
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 16 Sep 2007 02:48 GMT
Are you using a news reader? If so, a search for those groups should pull
them right up. If you aren't using a news reader, start using one.
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> Can you please better direct to those groups?  I seem to be having a hard
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 16 Sep 2007 14:55 GMT
microsoft.public.pocketpc.activesync pops up right away.

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> Can you please better direct to those groups?  I seem to be having a hard
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Sean - 16 Sep 2007 15:04 GMT
I was going to ask for a free news reader suggestion.

The dash is a smartphone, not a pocket-pc; I don't know if that matters if
you feel the problem lies with the software itself.  I just think someone
else would have reported this issue by now, especially if it is sync software
related and multiple peeps should be seeing it.

> microsoft.public.pocketpc.activesync pops up right away.
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 16 Sep 2007 16:20 GMT
It's the synch software that matters. So if indeed you are using Activesync
then someone in that group might have seen a similar problem. If it is third
party or proprietary synch software, then support will have to come from
those developers.

There are a host of good, free news readers out there. I've only ever used
Outlook Express. It's not particularly good, but it's free and already on my
hard drive (whether I want it or not).
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Sean - 16 Sep 2007 16:56 GMT
So I can continue using Outlook 2003 as I do and also set up OE just for the
newsgroups?  If that's right, cool, I will have to get back to my OE.  I used
to use newsgroups there many moons ago but also ceased using the program when
I switched to Outlook.  The shortcut converted to an Outlook icon when I
installed Office.

> It's the synch software that matters. So if indeed you are using Activesync
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 16 Sep 2007 18:02 GMT
Just launch OE from Outlook and it will open in "news only" mode.
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> So I can continue using Outlook 2003 as I do and also set up OE just for
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Sean - 16 Sep 2007 18:10 GMT
Last question on this thread then:  How do I launch OE from Outlook.  Sounds
right on the money the best option.  TY

> Just launch OE from Outlook and it will open in "news only" mode.
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 16 Sep 2007 18:58 GMT
You should see "news" in the Go Menu.
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> Last question on this thread then:  How do I launch OE from Outlook.
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Sean - 16 Sep 2007 19:56 GMT
Nope.  I have MAIL, CALENDAR, CONTACTS, TASKS, NOTES, FOLDER LIST, SHORTCUTS,
JOURNAL, FOLDER in that order.

> You should see "news" in the Go Menu.
> > Last question on this thread then:  How do I launch OE from Outlook.
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 16 Sep 2007 20:10 GMT
Then you haven't configured things correctly. To get the News command back,
go back to the Programs tab in Control Panel | Internet Options and change
the default newsreader to Outlook Express.  If
OE prompts you to make it your default newsreader the next time you launch
it, clear the "Always perform this check..." box and then click the No
button.

You may need to reset the Menu Bar and/or restart Outlook and/or reboot your
machine in order to complete the process.  Not everyone is reporting success
with this method, but try it and see what happens.  If all else fails, you
can always create a desktop shortcut to Outlook Express and include the
/outnews switch -- that gives you the same result as accessing the
newsreader via the News command in Outlook.

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> Nope.  I have MAIL, CALENDAR, CONTACTS, TASKS, NOTES, FOLDER LIST,
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Sean - 16 Sep 2007 21:06 GMT
That's the first thing I had checked Russ.  Under 'Internet Programs >
Newsgroups' Outlook Express is the only option and is selected already.

> Then you haven't configured things correctly. To get the News command back,
> go back to the Programs tab in Control Panel | Internet Options and change
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 16 Sep 2007 21:09 GMT
Why didn't you say so? Then try the other solutions I posted. You must also
ensure that within OE itself, it is NOT set to be the default.
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> That's the first thing I had checked Russ.  Under 'Internet Programs >
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Sean - 16 Sep 2007 22:26 GMT
What should I specify for the NNTP server for these MIcrosoft groups? I have
manually opened up OE so I can set it up.

> Why didn't you say so? Then try the other solutions I posted. You must also
> ensure that within OE itself, it is NOT set to be the default.
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 16 Sep 2007 22:53 GMT
msnews.microsoft.com

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> What should I specify for the NNTP server for these MIcrosoft groups? I
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Sean - 18 Sep 2007 18:30 GMT
I do have an answer for this question in case anyone else here is hunting one
- it was hard for me to get it figured out.

The number in the () on the cell phone calendar once it is synced to OUtlook
is the number of years since the original occurence.  THerefore, the date you
put in for birthday or anniversary on the contact 'Detail' page is supposed
to be a date of birth or wedding year.  This way your calendar will tell you
how old or what year anniversary it is.  Of course, the silly thing is some
people I could care less to have that info.  A lot of times I meet a
colleague and just want to record the date; it is a nice touch to wish an
unsuspecting person happy birthday.  Do I care what year they were born?  No
and I am not going to ask either, lol.

So now I understand although it seems a little silly to not have a separate
field for this.  I knew Outlook calculated that because I have seen it on
Custom Forms, but to not give you a sync option to not include this field
seems shortsighted.

So mystery solved, I hope this was informative.

Thanks Russ for all your help on this thread and all other MVPs and helpful
readers as always.

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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 18 Sep 2007 20:47 GMT
Just so I understand, you see this only on your cell phone, never in
Outlook, right?
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