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hilda - 19 Dec 2003 17:34 GMT
When I bought a pocket pc it came with an ugrade to
Outlook 2002. However, when I write a letter in word and
try to select an address for the Envelope, the address is
no longer available. It gives my Contacts list which is an
mix of email address and street address. When I click
Personal Address book, nothing is in it, even though I
have enabled sharing with my Address Book in Outlook
Express. I am now unable to address envelopes. This all
worked fine before the Outlook 2002 upgrade.
Help!! Appreciate any words of wisdom...
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 19 Dec 2003 18:44 GMT
Versions must match if you want to use Word and Outlook together.
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hilda - 20 Dec 2003 12:10 GMT
tks for the reply. I would happily not use Outlook with
Word but use the Address book that's in Outlook Express.
The trouble is Outlook 2002 takes over. I didnt even
particularly want the 2002 upgrade, but it came with the
Pocket PC. Should I uninstall 2002 or is there another
solution anyone knows?

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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 20 Dec 2003 12:57 GMT
Did you ask the manufacturers of the Pocket PC? Did they tell you it would
only work with Outlook 2002?
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> tks for the reply. I would happily not use Outlook with
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hilda - 23 Dec 2003 10:30 GMT
no yet. cant get through to any Ipaq support
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hilda - 24 Dec 2003 21:29 GMT
Ipaq says you have to have Outlook 2002 to work with
Pocket PC so uninstalling is not an option. They claim
that the Address book problem can be resolved in the
profile set up, but as to what that mean they refered me
to Microsoft. Isnt this where I came in? Gratefully open
to suggestions.
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>no yet. cant get through to any Ipaq support
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 24 Dec 2003 22:35 GMT
Not correct. Most of the integration with Word will be disabled by the
version mismatch, and they should have told you that when they suggested you
upgrade only Outlook.

Some of the Outlook Address Book functions my be able to be restored,
however. Let's give it a try. It disturbs me that you said you enabled
sharing in OE. Outlook 2002 has no such feature, and if you had it before
that means you were using the long abandoned IMO support mode of Outlook
2000. Upgrades to Outlook 2002 from IMO mode always leave you with a corrupt
profile and rarely, if ever work.

Are you at all familiar with Outlook profiles and how to create them? You
need to create a new Outlook profile from scratch and include your current
email account(s), your current Personal Folders file, and the Outlook
Address Book Service (NOT the Personal Address Book Service). Take a look at
this MS KB article, it may help:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q287/0/72.asp

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> Ipaq says you have to have Outlook 2002 to work with
> Pocket PC so uninstalling is not an option. They claim
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hilda - 25 Dec 2003 10:10 GMT
That's most intriquing. To answer your question I no
nothing about setting up Outlook Profiles and the prospect
fills me full of dread. I will read the article however.
My original Outlook version is what came with Win 98
(which I think was Outlook 97) I then purchased an Office
2000 updgrade. Is that what you are referring to? What is
IMO? I dont know what that means. I certainly did have the
share contacts with Outlook Express facility prior to
installing the Outlook 2002 upgrade. I like this feature,
and would not want to lose it it. I prefer OE to use.
If the Office 2000 upgrade is what you are referring to,
then it's hardly my fault if Microsoft stopped supporting
it. What would happen if I uninstalled that upgrade and
then just reinstalled Outlook 2002?
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 25 Dec 2003 11:28 GMT
IMO (=Internet Mail Only) was a simplified version of Outlook designed to
handle only simple Internet transports. It did not have all the transports
the full version had, such as the ones that support the Outlook Address
Book. You can read about the difference in modes here:
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/choosingmode.htm

Creating a new profile is not difficult, nor does it put any of your data at
risk. It is a common troubleshooting technique for a variety of problems.
The reason you need to do it is that your current profile has retained many
of the settings from your IMO installation which are no longer valid, such
as those that permit the Address Book to function with Word.

Microsoft does, in fact, support the upgrade scenario from IMO. That means
it is aware of and has solutions for each of the problems you may encounter.
Creating a new profile fixes most of them. There may be others. Here is the
other most common one you may encounter:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q301447

Sharing your Outlook Contacts Feature was a feature only in IMO. The full
version of Outlook and Outlook 2002 and 2003 do not have that feature. You
can recreate it however, with another registry setting:
http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm

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> That's most intriquing. To answer your question I no
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- 25 Dec 2003 14:59 GMT
Russ,

Thank you for the reply, particularly today. Happy
Christmas to you.
Are you fairly satisfied from my description of the update
to Office 2000 that it is the same IMO operation of which
you speak?
I presume you feel uninstalling the Office 2000 upgrade
and merely adding Outlook 2002 is not a good idea?
presumably I loose all my extra Word functions?
I will have a look at your recommendations below but I
find it very daunting. Im convinced Ill end up with more
of a mess when I start tinkering with profiles. Still
nothing ventured...
Isnt if a bit off of Microsoft not to flag this issue at
the Outlook 2002 installation stage?
By the way, when you said that what Ipaq told me was
incorrect what was it that was incorrect? Was it the fact
that you must have 2002 for pocket PC? Or the reference to
fixing in profiles?
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 25 Dec 2003 15:40 GMT
Assuming you have already installed Outlook 2002 on top of Outlook 2000, you
cannot go back and uninstall Outlook 2000. Nor would that help.
I am sure you were running Outlook 2000 in IMO mode and that the steps I've
posted will help restore the Address Book function. How completely, I can't
say.
By incorrect, I meant that there _are_ other integration features with Word
that you will not be able to restore because of the version mismatch, such
as WordMail and using Word as your email editor. You may not have used those
before anyway, so perhaps you won't miss anything.
I think any OEM who tells their customers to upgrade only the Outlook part
of the Office Suite should be notifying their customers of the consequences.
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hilda - 26 Dec 2003 12:37 GMT
I have access to a professional version of Word through
work, maybe I should just install that on my home pc?
>Assuming you have already installed Outlook 2002 on top of Outlook 2000, you
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 26 Dec 2003 14:41 GMT
As long as you mean Word 2002.
You should still be able to fix the Outlook Address Book without having to
upgrade Word. Did it not work?
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hilda - 27 Dec 2003 17:16 GMT
Russ,

I said Word but I should have said Office. Its a pro
edition. I'd need to look at it after the hols to get the
details.
But before that can I just ensure we are talking about the
same thing as regards IMO upgrade etc...(Im not at all
confident about messing around with the OUtlook profile)

My original version of OUtlook was in Microsoft Office 97,
Standard Edition. We then purchased an upgrade saying
Microsoft Office 2000 Standard. I cant find the letters
IMO on it anywhere, so Im a little concerned we may be at
cross purposes. Can you clarify. tks

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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 27 Dec 2003 19:50 GMT
You would not see the words "Internet  Mail Only" anywhere but in Help |
About in the installation of Outlook 2000, which presumably you no longer
have. I am sure you were running in IMO mode from your description, although
you would never have seen that term nor known you were installing that mode.
Outlook did that all behind the scenes based on the type of mail accounts it
found on your system.

Creating profiles is not difficult and is all well documented in the KB
article that I posted. It may permit you to use the Outlook Address Book
again in Word without your needing to upgrade the rest of Office to XP. In
fact, upgrading the rest of Office to XP may not fix your address book
problem if the problem is a corrupt Outlook profile.
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hilda - 28 Dec 2003 14:39 GMT
You're right of course. Whatever was there has been
overwritten by Outlook 2002.
I will either have a go at trying to rebuild a profile,
but it still seems to be pretty daunting and will require
setting aside a whole day no doubt. Or I will just have to
get used to not being able to address envelopes.
I'll reply here to let you know of any progress.

tks for your help.
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hilda - 30 Dec 2003 15:18 GMT
Russ

I took the plunge. I managed to set up a new profile and
successfuly set up my mail etc. But I still have nothing
in Address book. When I click on the wizard for changing  
Outlook address book etc, (and ignore the Persal Address
Book one as you suggest), I get blocked saying the Outlook
Address book is already there (or something similar). So
when I go to word and click on addressing I still have an
empty address book. I need to be able to get my ADDRESSES
into the OUtlook address book, or when Contacts is
selected in Word, if offers up the full address, rather
than the email address. The problem is the same whether i
have the default one or a new one. I still dont understand
the solution.

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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 30 Dec 2003 16:34 GMT
So when you go to Tools > E-mail accounts > View or change existing
directories or address books > Outlook Address Book > Change. >
exactly what do you see there?

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hilda - 31 Dec 2003 10:30 GMT
I see Outlook Address Book  MAPI.
If I click Change I get a box with Contacts Personal
Folders in it. There is an option to remove which Im not
going to do unless you tell me.

(On the way here by the way, I clicked Explore after right-
clicking Outlook and found myself in Exchange 95! My
system is Win 98, so cant explain that.)
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 31 Dec 2003 11:26 GMT
Remove that reference to the Contacts Folder. You aren't removing any data,
just the link to it.
Restart Outlook.
Go to the same place and then add back the reference to your Contacts
Folder.

Calling up Exchange 95 troubles me. Your update over IMO may not have
updated your MAPI files correctly. We can fix it if it remains a problem.
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hilda - 31 Dec 2003 15:15 GMT
ill go and try that now.

Re exchange 95. I had to ditch my Palm device (and went to
Pocket PC) because I could never get it to sync
consistently with Express. (It would only do it first time
after rebooting) The suspicion was that it was a Mapi
problem, and we went through all sorts of hoops, fix mapi
etc, but to no avail. I wonder if its all connected.
The version of Office Pro at work, to which Im thinking of
upgrading, is not XP, but im not there to get the details
yet. back to you soon re Address. My computer can hardly
keep up with this dialogue...its falling of the page..!
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hilda - 31 Dec 2003 15:24 GMT
by the way...My Contacts folder is full of contacts
(unlike address book). The problem is that when in Word,
Contacts offers up only the email addresses, not the full
address for letters. I hope this is clear
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>Remove that reference to the Contacts Folder. You aren't removing any data,
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 31 Dec 2003 17:04 GMT
Well that's progress then. When the Word Address Book shows only Contacts
with e-mail addresses, that usually means you did an inplace upgrade from
IMO support mode of Outlook and Word's Address book remains linked to your
old Outlook profile. This MS KB article may help:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q301447

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> by the way...My Contacts folder is full of contacts
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hilda - 31 Dec 2003 15:48 GMT
I removed Contacts Folder from the Box. I closed Outlook
and reopened it. When I went to change Address, the Folder
was gone, but I could see no way of putting it back. When
I tried to add Outlook Address Book it repeated it was
already there and could not be specified. Into the buffers
again!
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hilda - 31 Dec 2003 10:35 GMT
Further to my last...if I click ADD I have the option of
International Directory Service or Add Address Books. If I
then select the latter I have a box with two statements
1. Outlook Address book and 2. Personal Address Book.
You advised not to select Personal Address Book, so Ive
left that. But when I select Outlook Address Book it
says "this account or directory already exists and cannot
be specified twice."
Your ball!

tks for your help with this. much appreciated.

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