MS Office Forum / Outlook / Contacts / March 2004
Contacts & Business Contacts
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Ernie - 01 Feb 2004 22:39 GMT I just installed Office Pro 2003 and Business Contact Manager. I was under the assumption that my Outlook Business Contacts were the same as my current Contacts (with additional capabilities) and that I would not have to maintain two databases. Side effects appear to include:
1. Making changes in one (new phone number, add e-mail address) do not update to the other 2. My Pocket PC would not include business contacts.
Are the Contacts and Business Contacts two separate databases that are not synchronized? When updating one, do I always have to update the other? If this is the case, what are people doing to make this work?
Thanks,
Ernie
Sue Mosher [MVP] - 01 Feb 2004 22:59 GMT Correct. They are two separate databases. You don't have to update both unless you want the information in two different places.
The ActiveSync program from Microsoft definitely cannot synchronize multiple contacts or journal folders, which is what BCM uses. Third-party tools may be able to do so. A forthcoming version of Intellisync will support BCM, but the version 5.3 or earlier does not.
I have also heard of people using Pocket Contact Synchronizer, a free tool from Microsoft, to copy contacts automatically from the BCM Business Contacts folder to your main Contacts folder. The main Contacts folder can be synchronized with any PDA sync tool.
 Signature Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
> I just installed Office Pro 2003 and Business Contact Manager. I was under > the assumption that my Outlook Business Contacts were the same as my current [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Ernie Ernie - 02 Feb 2004 01:37 GMT Hi, Sue,
Thanks for your quick reply! Do you consider it an undesirable thing that the Contact list is not the source for the Business Contact list? Do you believe Microsoft is aware of the situation and can possibly change it in a revision or upgrade? I'm not sure how I can make use of it at all under these circumstances!
Thanks again,
Ernie
> Correct. They are two separate databases. You don't have to update both > unless you want the information in two different places. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > > Ernie Sue Mosher [MVP] - 02 Feb 2004 12:59 GMT I don't personally consider it undersirable, but what I think doesn't matter, does it, if it doesn't work for you? I would not expect a change before ver. 2.0.
 Signature Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
> Hi, Sue, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Contacts folder to your main Contacts folder. The main Contacts folder can > > be synchronized with any PDA sync tool.
> > > I just installed Office Pro 2003 and Business Contact Manager. I was > under [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > > > > Ernie Michael Maples - 04 Mar 2004 05:16 GMT Has anything changed on this? Keeping 2 copies of contacts goes against the whole principle of one place to keep information as put forth by Business Contact Manager
----- Sue Mosher [MVP] wrote: ---- I don't personally consider it undersirable, but what I think doesn' matter, does it, if it doesn't work for you? I would not expect a chang before ver. 2.0 -- Sue Mosher, Outlook MV Author o Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart fo Administrators, Power Users, and Developer http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.asp "Ernie" <brogdon@san.rr.com> wrote in messag news:%23nOdv0S6DHA.2692@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl.. > Hi, Sue >> Thanks for your quick reply! Do you consider it an undesirable thing tha > the Contact list is not the source for the Business Contact list? Do yo > believe Microsoft is aware of the situation and can possibly change it i > revision or upgrade? I'm not sure how I can make use of it at all unde > these circumstances >> Thanks again >> Erni >>> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" <suemvp@outlookcode.com> wrote in messag > news:O2HGpXR6DHA.2712@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl.. >> Correct. They are two separate databases. You don't have to update bot >> unless you want the information in two different places >>>> The ActiveSync program from Microsoft definitely cannot synchroniz > multipl >> contacts or journal folders, which is what BCM uses. Third-party tool ma >> be able to do so. A forthcoming version of Intellisync will support BCM > bu >> the version 5.3 or earlier does not >>>> I have also heard of people using Pocket Contact Synchronizer, a fre too >> from Microsoft, to copy contacts automatically from the BCM Busines >> Contacts folder to your main Contacts folder. The main Contacts folde ca >> be synchronized with any PDA sync tool >>>> "Ernie" <brogdon@san.rr.com> wrote in messag >> news:uGmMARR6DHA.1556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl.. >>> I just installed Office Pro 2003 and Business Contact Manager. I wa > unde >>> the assumption that my Outlook Business Contacts were the same as m >> curren >>> Contacts (with additional capabilities) and that I would not have t >>> maintain two databases. Side effects appear to include >>>>>> 1. Making changes in one (new phone number, add e-mail address) do no >>> update to the othe >>> 2. My Pocket PC would not include business contacts >>>>>> Are the Contacts and Business Contacts two separate databases that ar > no >>> synchronized? When updating one, do I always have to update the other > I >>> this is the case, what are people doing to make this work >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Erni
Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] - 04 Mar 2004 12:51 GMT No. Nothing has changed.
 Signature Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
> Has anything changed on this? Keeping 2 copies of contacts goes against the whole principle of one place to keep information as put forth by Business Contact Manager.
> ----- Sue Mosher [MVP] wrote: ----- > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > >>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>> Ernie Michael Maples - 04 Mar 2004 13:41 GMT This makes BCM absolutly usless to me. I live by my handheld and must keep contact information on it. Is there a work around through another sync program. I have been waiting for BCM for a long time and now find out I can't use it
Is there an update to the pocketPC software or is this another obvious oversite by Microsoft this just pisses people off ----- Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] wrote: ---- No. Nothing has changed -- Sue Mosher, Outlook MV Author o Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart fo Administrators, Power Users, and Developer http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.asp "Michael Maples" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in messag news:CA1646D8-18AC-4920-9AD1-9C3DD468E442@microsoft.com.. > Has anything changed on this? Keeping 2 copies of contacts goes agains the whole principle of one place to keep information as put forth b Business Contact Manager >>>> ----- Sue Mosher [MVP] wrote: ---- >> I don't personally consider it undersirable, but what I think doesn' > matter, does it, if it doesn't work for you? I would not expect chang > before ver. 2.0 >> "Ernie" <brogdon@san.rr.com> wrote in messag > news:%23nOdv0S6DHA.2692@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl.. >> Hi, Sue >>> Thanks for your quick reply! Do you consider it an undesirabl thing tha >> the Contact list is not the source for the Business Contact list Do yo >> believe Microsoft is aware of the situation and can possibly chang it i > >> revision or upgrade? I'm not sure how I can make use of it at al unde >> these circumstances >>> Thanks again >>> Erni >>>> "Sue Mosher [MVP]" <suemvp@outlookcode.com> wrote in messag >> news:O2HGpXR6DHA.2712@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl.. >>> Correct. They are two separate databases. You don't have to updat bot >>> unless you want the information in two different places >>>>> The ActiveSync program from Microsoft definitely canno synchroniz >> multipl >>> contacts or journal folders, which is what BCM uses. Third-part tool > ma >>> be able to do so. A forthcoming version of Intellisync wil support BCM >> bu >>> the version 5.3 or earlier does not >>>>> I have also heard of people using Pocket Contact Synchronizer, fre > too >>> from Microsoft, to copy contacts automatically from the BC Busines >>> Contacts folder to your main Contacts folder. The main Contact folde > ca >>> be synchronized with any PDA sync tool >>>>>> "Ernie" <brogdon@san.rr.com> wrote in messag >>> news:uGmMARR6DHA.1556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl.. >>>> I just installed Office Pro 2003 and Business Contact Manager. wa >> unde >>>> the assumption that my Outlook Business Contacts were the same a m >>> curren >>>> Contacts (with additional capabilities) and that I would not hav t >>>> maintain two databases. Side effects appear to include >>>>>>> 1. Making changes in one (new phone number, add e-mai address) do no >>>> update to the othe >>>> 2. My Pocket PC would not include business contacts >>>>>>> Are the Contacts and Business Contacts two separate database that ar >> no >>>> synchronized? When updating one, do I always have to update th other >> I >>>> this is the case, what are people doing to make this work >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> Erni
Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] - 04 Mar 2004 19:20 GMT I have seen no updates to ActiveSync to add multiple folder synchronization, but that's not your only option for PocketPC, of course.
 Signature Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP Author of Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
> This makes BCM absolutly usless to me. I live by my handheld and must keep contact information on it. Is there a work around through another sync program. I have been waiting for BCM for a long time and now find out I can't use it.
> Is there an update to the pocketPC software or is this another obvious oversite by Microsoft this just pisses people off? > > ----- Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] wrote: ----- > > No. Nothing has changed.
> "Michael Maples" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:CA1646D8-18AC-4920-9AD1-9C3DD468E442@microsoft.com... [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > >>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>> Ernie
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