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MS Office Forum / Outlook / Fax / June 2004How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation?
Hello How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? Like as you can not open other connection with the same telephone line, you can not send fax with the same line that is "busy". > Hello > How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? The line is not "busy". I want to start sending a fax to the person with whom I have the telephone conversation. > Like as you can not open other connection with the same telephone > line, you can not send fax with the same line that is "busy". > > > Hello > > How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? Of course the line is busy. Hang up. Send the fax. Fax software must have exclusive access to an analog phone line.  SignatureRuss Valentine [MVP-Outlook] > The line is not "busy". I want to start sending a fax to the person with > whom I have the telephone conversation. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > Hello > > > How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? A person Starts receiving on the receiving fax. VentaFax program allows to start sending a fax during a telephone conversation but it's not free. > Of course the line is busy. > Hang up. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > Hello > > > > How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? I looked at the VentaFax website, and nowhere does it say that you can transmit a fax down the line that you are talking on.. try calling up a fax machine and decide for yourself whether you could carry on a conversation during a fax transmission.. and quit taking the medication.. it is playing tricks with your mind.. > A person Starts receiving on the receiving fax. VentaFax program allows to > start sending a fax during a telephone conversation but it's not free. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > > Hello > > > > > How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? I would not talk with the person, who is receiving the fax, during the fax transmission. MS fax doesn't allow to persuade the person to start receiving first. > I looked at the VentaFax website, and nowhere does it say that you can > transmit a fax down the line that you are talking on.. try calling up a fax [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? I have to persuade the person to start receiving first. > Of course the line is busy. > Hang up. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > Hello > > > > How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? If you are using a fax card in your computer to send the fax, usually what you want to do requires two separate phone calls. First: call the person that is to receive the fax and tell them you are going to send it. Hang up. Send the fax. Allow time for the fax to be sent and the fax hardware to hang the line up. Now, you can call the person again, if you want, to find out if they received the fax. If you are using a fax service to which you connect over the Internet using cable or ADSL service, this does not apply. Tom MSMVP-DTS >I have to persuade the person to start receiving first. >> Of course the line is busy. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> > > > Hello >> > > > How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? Your suggested way requires 3 times more calls. Many people would not like to receive a fax from unknown source (if fax calls by itself), they would not be sufficiently sure that the fax is from me. > If you are using a fax card in your computer to send the fax, usually what > you want to do requires two separate phone calls. First: call the person [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >> > > > Hello > >> > > > How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? You can do this by connecting a phone to the "Phone" jack on the modem (so you have manual voice access to the telephone line) and setting your modem to NOT wait for a dial tone. You call the manual, operator controlled fax machine number with the telephone. You have your fax ready to send with a 1 or 2 digit FALSE phone number. You then tell the Fax Machine operator to press his "Start" button as soon as he hears your short, false phone number finish dialing. Your modem should "blind dial" the false number, the two modems should begin their negotiation sequence, and finish the transmission. This method is very similar to what you'd do with two Fax Machines; the sending end would call the receiving end with the handset attached to his Fax Machine, the receiving operator would answer on his handset, and both ends press their "Start" buttons. Hal SignatureHal Hostetler, CPBE -- hhh@kvoa.com Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-DTS -- WA7BGX http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!" KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4 Got Blues? - www.badnewsbluesband.com > Hello > How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? Thanks. I knew this way, but MS fax runs in the background all the time for me to be able to manually receive faxes. VentaFax does not run all the time, but it's not free. > You can do this by connecting a phone to the "Phone" jack on the modem (so > you have manual voice access to the telephone line) and setting your modem [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Hello > > How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? How does this prevent the solution? Assuming you made the telephone call, then do the Send Fax. This will dial the FALSE number and if you follow what Hal said below, it should work. This only means thaty you cannot queue the Fax before hand. SignatureManoj K Jain[MSFT] Microsoft Printing, Imaging and Faxing This posting isprovided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no rights. Please do not send mail directly to this aloas. This alias is for newsgroup purposes only. > Thanks. I knew this way, but MS fax runs in the background all the time > for [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> > Hello >> > How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? Thanks for your reply. I would not be able to dial up to ISP, if I set my modem to NOT wait for a dial tone. MS fax consumes system resources running in the background comparing to VentaFax or other fax programs. > How does this prevent the solution? Assuming you made the telephone call, > then do the Send Fax. This will dial the FALSE number and if you follow what [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >> > Hello > >> > How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? That is correct that you will not be able to do both. MS Fax has been modelled as a NT Service. It has been optimised to stop when all the following conditions are met ? There is no valid device set for manual answering. ? There are no active RPC connections. ? There are no devices set to receive. ? There are no jobs in the job queue. SignatureManoj K Jain[MSFT] Microsoft Printing, Imaging and Faxing This posting isprovided "AS IS" with no warranties and confers no rights. Please do not send mail directly to this aloas. This alias is for newsgroup purposes only. > Thanks for your reply. > I would not be able to dial up to ISP, if I set my modem to NOT wait for a [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >> >> > Hello >> >> > How to start sending a fax during the telephone conversation? |
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