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Outlook 2003 and .tif files from SBS2003

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Bob Anderson - 13 Apr 2004 16:22 GMT
I have a user who has a workstation that cannot open or save .TIF files from
the SBS fax program. Other users have no problem on their Outlook and the
problem user can save and open other files types without any problems. There
are no rules defined and no spam add-ons.
Any help?

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Bob Anderson
Anderson Computer Services

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 13 Apr 2004 22:24 GMT
Got any useful details on why the user can't open TIF files and what happens
when the user tries? You gave us nothing to go on.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> I have a user who has a workstation that cannot open or save .TIF files from
> the SBS fax program. Other users have no problem on their Outlook and the
> problem user can save and open other files types without any problems. There
> are no rules defined and no spam add-ons.
> Any help?
Bob Anderson - 13 Apr 2004 22:27 GMT
Either double clicking the attachment or trying to save it produces the
message, "Cant create file: fax.tif Right-click the folder you want to
create the file in, and then click properties on the shortcut menu to check
your permissions for the folder."

> Got any useful details on why the user can't open TIF files and what happens
> when the user tries? You gave us nothing to go on.
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> > are no rules defined and no spam add-ons.
> > Any help?
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 13 Apr 2004 23:00 GMT
Check the system's file association for TIF files.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> Either double clicking the attachment or trying to save it produces the
> message, "Cant create file: fax.tif Right-click the folder you want to
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> > > are no rules defined and no spam add-ons.
> > > Any help?
Bob Anderson - 13 Apr 2004 23:06 GMT
Already tried that, it can open .TIF files no problem.

> Check the system's file association for TIF files.
> > Either double clicking the attachment or trying to save it produces the
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> > > > are no rules defined and no spam add-ons.
> > > > Any help?
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 14 Apr 2004 04:07 GMT
What is the answer to my question?
Post the file association for TIF files.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> Already tried that, it can open .TIF files no problem.
>
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> > > > > are no rules defined and no spam add-ons.
> > > > > Any help?
Bob Anderson - 14 Apr 2004 14:15 GMT
Take it easy! All you said was check the association.
I tried Microsoft Imaging and also fax viewer; they both work without a
problem outside of Outlook. I also deleted the association completely and
tried to save the attachment and it gave me the same error. I can also save
other attachments such as .PDF from the same client with the same logon
without a problem.
Bob Anderson

> What is the answer to my question?
> Post the file association for TIF files.
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> > > > > > are no rules defined and no spam add-ons.
> > > > > > Any help?
Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 14 Apr 2004 18:16 GMT
I'm just trying to track down the possible source of the problem. There have
been some undocumented changes in file associations for TIF files in Office
2003 and something seems awry here. The default viewer for TIF files in
Office 2003 is MODI. Any ideas how yours got changed?
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
> Take it easy! All you said was check the association.
> I tried Microsoft Imaging and also fax viewer; they both work without a
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Bob Anderson - 14 Apr 2004 18:19 GMT
It wasn't changed when the problem occurred. I just tried to use one of the
other viewers to try an eliminate the possibility. I returned it to the
defaults afterwards. I can open .TIF without any additional steps when being
done through Windows Explorer etc. It just seems to be Outlook preventing
the user (who happens to be the designated fax receptionist) from opening
the SBS faxes.
Bob Anderson
> I'm just trying to track down the possible source of the problem. There have
> been some undocumented changes in file associations for TIF files in Office
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 14 Apr 2004 23:22 GMT
But MODI should have been your default with Office 2003. Was it?
"<drive>:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\MODI\11.0\MSPVIEW.EXE"
"%1"

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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> It wasn't changed when the problem occurred. I just tried to use one of the
> other viewers to try an eliminate the possibility. I returned it to the
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Bob Anderson - 15 Apr 2004 13:24 GMT
That was (and is) the program that still opens the files outside of Outlook.

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Bob Anderson
Anderson Computer Services

> But MODI should have been your default with Office 2003. Was it?
> "<drive>:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\MODI\11.0\MSPVIEW.EXE"
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Bob Anderson - 15 Apr 2004 19:09 GMT
I logged onto the same station as another user and the .TIF file opens the
way it is supposed to.
Now what????

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Bob Anderson
Anderson Computer Services

> That was (and is) the program that still opens the files outside of Outlook.
>
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Bob Anderson - 15 Apr 2004 20:21 GMT
Fixed it. I did a detect & repair and selected the reset of all defaults and
shortcuts.

Still doesn't explain what caused it but onwards and upwards....

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Bob Anderson
Anderson Computer Services

> I logged onto the same station as another user and the .TIF file opens the
> way it is supposed to.
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 15 Apr 2004 23:20 GMT
The file association for TIF files in Outlook 2003 became very convoluted,
and I suspect your settings became corrupt. For some reason in Office 2003,
the file associations for ".tif" and ".tiff" have been changed to
MSPaper.Document. It is the printto verb for MSPaper.Document that must be
either created or changed in
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MSPaper.Document\shell\printto\command]
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> Fixed it. I did a detect & repair and selected the reset of all defaults and
> shortcuts.
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 16 Apr 2004 00:24 GMT
Sorry, make that the open verb.
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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

> The file association for TIF files in Outlook 2003 became very convoluted,
> and I suspect your settings became corrupt. For some reason in Office 2003,
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Bob Anderson - 16 Apr 2004 14:16 GMT
You lost me on line 4 anyway. <G>
I think I will stick to the settings reset if I see that again in the future
rather than digging into the registry.
Thanks anyway for your attempts to help.

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Bob Anderson
Anderson Computer Services

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> Sorry, make that the open verb.
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Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook] - 16 Apr 2004 19:04 GMT
I agree. I'm just interested in which settings got munged if it happens
again.

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Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
> You lost me on line 4 anyway. <G>
> I think I will stick to the settings reset if I see that again in the future
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