MS Office Forum / Outlook / 3rd Party Utilities / July 2005
Watch Your Back - Grinning Shark
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miasmal@gmail.com - 16 Mar 2005 18:20 GMT This is a third party software used in conjunction with Outlook to strip "read-receipt requested" flags from Emails. Since the feature can't be turned off when Outlook is in Corporate mode, the only way to prevent sending any receipts is through this kind of software. Note- Grinning Shark software/website no longer active as of 12/31/04.
I started using this back in 2002. I missed the author's email that he was no longer in the business as of end of 2004 - so now I am unable to install & run a copy of my older WYB software on my new PC as it requires internet registration. I didn't even get a chance to download the latest version. Does version 4.3 (I think that's the last one) do this internet registration as well? I really miss using it, I have OSK but it's not as good as WYB for Corporate Win2k/Outlook 2k.
Anyone have a good working copy, or a way to get the program going past 30 days?
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] - 19 Mar 2005 20:33 GMT > This is a third party software used in conjunction with Outlook to > strip "read-receipt requested" flags from Emails. Since the feature [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Anyone have a good working copy, or a way to get the program going > past 30 days? Try googling - that's the only advice I can offer.
Many others miss this software too, but note that if you use Outlook 2003 you don't need any 3rd party apps to do this anyway. And OL2003 is waaaay better than anything prior - OL2002/XP was good, but if you're on 2000 or prior, you should upgrade anyway as that's old stuff and no longer supported.
miasmal@gmail.com - 21 Mar 2005 16:25 GMT > Try googling - that's the only advice I can offer. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > prior, you should upgrade anyway as that's old stuff and no longer > supported. Yep, I have been googling.... switching to 2003 is not an option as the corporate standard here in the company is 2000. Even if we did move to 2003, I'm sure they would find a way to restrict the "remove RR" option. I guess I'll stick with OSK and its associated limitations.
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] - 22 Mar 2005 04:34 GMT >> Try googling - that's the only advice I can offer. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > RR" option. I guess I'll stick with OSK and its associated > limitations. Ah. Well, if your company has a standard build (as it should), I'm surprised they'd let you install/use WYB anyway....and what's more, if you say that they would somehow remove the option to block read receipts in OL2003 it kind of tells me they don't want you to do this, right?
Abide by your corporate standards. Do not PO your IT staff. Do not PO the waiter before he brings you your food. Common sense. ;-)
dBugged - 23 Mar 2005 15:06 GMT >>Ah. Well, if your company has a standard build (as it should), I'm surprised they'd let you install/use WYB anyway....and what's more, if you say that they would somehow remove the option to block read receipts in OL2003 it kind of tells me they don't want you to do this, right?
Abide by your corporate standards. Do not PO your IT staff. Do not PO the waiter before he brings you your food. Common sense. ;-) <<
Well said! I'd agree with that! I use WYB! daily, since we're stuck with one version prior to OL2003 and cannot install the new version.
I've been a user of WYB! for several years also and was disappointed to hear about this program going away, but don't blame the guy for wanting to spend time with his family instead of in front of his computer. I know how that is. My wife beans me over the head when I sit in front of some of my favorite online games. I was lucky enough to snag a copy of the final version (kept slipping my mind to download it) before his site closed down some time in February. The final version didn't have the registration requirement, however the author requested that we not share this final version (4.4 is what my software says is the version of this final one).
hisboyelroy - 26 Mar 2005 05:17 GMT Are you willing to share a copy of the program?
> I was lucky enough to snag a copy > of the final version (kept slipping my mind to download it) before his > site closed down some time in February. The final version didn't have > the registration requirement, however the author requested that we not > share this final version (4.4 is what my software says is the version > of this final one). dBugged - 28 Mar 2005 17:10 GMT >> Are you willing to share a copy of the program? No, I am not willing to share. I don't think that would be fair to the author to share the software, especially when the author graciously asked us not to.
miasmal@gmail.com - 29 Mar 2005 13:02 GMT uggg, that bites - he should have sent a copy of the program (it's not that big) to every registered user. Not fair :-( I would have gladly paid the author 5x the registration fee (it was $12 back then) to send me the updated version before he disappeared. The program was _that_ important to me. OSK has some limitations and slips by a RR or two on occasion. It also can't handle multiple mailboxes.
Also I am in IT with sufficient privileges. If there was a simple fix via Registry to remove this grey-out section Tools.Options.Preferences.Email Options.Tracking Options - I would like to know, as I would have done so already.
> >> Are you willing to share a copy of the program? > > No, I am not willing to share. I don't think that would be fair to the > author to share the software, especially when the author graciously > asked us not to. Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] - 29 Mar 2005 16:14 GMT > uggg, that bites - he should have sent a copy of the program (it's not > that big) to every registered user. Why? I don't think Chrysler sent out Oldsmobiles to all prior purchasers, after they decided to discontinue the line... ;-)
> Not fair :-( Didn't your mother tell you life wasn't fair? I think mine used to mention that at least twice a day. I think I was a pretty whiny kid.
> I would have > gladly paid the author 5x the registration fee (it was $12 back then) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Tools.Options.Preferences.Email Options.Tracking Options - I would > like to know, as I would have done so already. Nothing I know of, sorry. Hope your company decides to ditch OL2000 and move into the 21st c. soon!
>>>> Are you willing to share a copy of the program? >> >> No, I am not willing to share. I don't think that would be fair to >> the author to share the software, especially when the author >> graciously asked us not to. hisboyelroy - 29 Mar 2005 18:23 GMT I guess I'm confused...your final copy has no registration requirement and your not willing to share? Did you pay for the final download? If so, then I understand not wanting to share, that would be piracy. If you did not pay, then I do not understand your decision...freeware is freeware.
>>> Are you willing to share a copy of the program? > > No, I am not willing to share. I don't think that would be fair to the > author to share the software, especially when the author graciously > asked us not to. dBugged - 29 Mar 2005 19:25 GMT The author was a pretty nice guy (I helped on a few of the beta tests and cooresponded with him directly) and I'd hardly say he disappeared. Being a family man myself, his final note touched me. He did send a note out to all of his customers (I got one since I paid him $12 a few years ago for the software) that explained the situation and why he decided to stop selling the software. Registered users were provided with a site where they could go to download a special version that did not need to be activated so they could continue to use it without having to worry about it not being able to use it. I downloaded it right away and burnt it onto a CD. I think I also downloaded it in late January for my work pc, so I know that the download was at least provided for two months. The software wasn't freeware. I paid $12 for it and he offered us the final version so those who paid for the software wouldn't be out in the dark later on after his site closed. I always thought the $12 was a good deal. He asked that we not share the software, since he will only make it available to those users who rightfully paid for it. I thought that was a pretty fair request. At least he actually sent out a note and brought some closure to the software, unlike some other bigger companies that I've been hosed by over the past few years who just disappear without any explantion. I guess I didn't expect that much for only paying $12. If he had just disappeared that would have been a bummer, but heck it was just $12 and it hardly is anything for me to cry over.
Oh, to the guy who said the author should have sent a copy of the software to everyone. Well, if you didn't get the email talking about this... how would you have expected an email to get through with the software attached? Sorry, couldn't resist that broken logic. Food for thought.
Frankly, as others have stated, upgrading to OL2003 will also kill read receipts or using OSK, although I tried that software and it is a little dated, but it is workable.
hisboyelroy - 29 Mar 2005 22:38 GMT I completely understand the situation...if he ever contacts you again let him know that there is still a market for his software.
OL2003 will block return receipts for Internet email only, not Exchange Sever...at least that's been my experience so far.
Can you give some background on OSK? I have not heard of this utility.
Thanks
He did send a note out to all of his customers (I got one since I paid him $12 a few
> years ago for the software) that explained the situation and why he > decided to stop selling the software. Registered users were provided [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > software wouldn't be out in the dark later on after his site closed. I > always thought the $12 was a good deal.
> Frankly, as others have stated, upgrading to OL2003 will also kill read > receipts or using OSK, although I tried that software and it is a > little dated, but it is workable. dBugged - 30 Mar 2005 13:18 GMT He never contacted me directly about his closure, last time I heard from him was the email that he sent out to all registered users. I understand his reasons for discontinuing the software. He wanted to spend more time with family. I'm not surprised by this, $12/copy for a hobby probably doesn't bring in that much and I'd bet he didn't have millions of customers using his software. Frankly, OL2003 eliminates most of the need for his software.
OL2003 will block all types of read receipts. I have tested this myself and it will prevent exchange server receipts from being sent. Older versions of Outlook only seemed to block internet based receipts. I cannot give any background on OSK, I tried it a few years ago and didn't like it since it was limiting (I liked that stupid blaster feature in WYB!, although I was careful using it). I got a link through download.com, but tried again after you inquired and it doesn't come up anymore. As I recall, all it did was remove read receipts manually or automatically. That's all it did. However, based on your comments... if the software is still available that may be just enough to solve your problem.
opus2008 - 30 Jun 2005 23:32 GMT Grr. I was a very happy, registered user of WYB!, but I lost the fina copy I downloaded iin a hard drive crash. Now I'm left wanting. :(
I don't suppose there's someone out there who would provide me a cop of the last version if I were to forward you my registratio confirmation, is there? I love the product, and I miss it terribly
Brian Tillman - 01 Jul 2005 00:51 GMT > I don't suppose there's someone out there who would provide me a copy > of the last version if I were to forward you my registration > confirmation, is there? I love the product, and I miss it terribly. Why not contact the original vendor?
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Vince Averello [MVP-Outlook] - 01 Jul 2005 14:09 GMT I think Grinning Shark's site says it all:
Grinning Shark Software ceased operations on December 31st, 2004.
All service, support, activations and registrations related to the Watch Your Back! software ceased at the end of January, 2005.
We hope all our registered users took advantage of our email offer and had a chance to download the special version of the software that was designed to work even after our operations ceased (please note that this download is no longer available as of March 1st, 2005).
> Why not contact the original vendor?
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