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Ian J. - 30 May 2005 12:49 GMT
Hello,

I have come up against a problem that I have as yet not been able to find a
solution to, either on the www, or in Usenet. I have searched for relevant
issues within several newsgroups and still not found an answer.

The problem is this: I am trying to search emails for set words, but don't
get all results. It seems that any emails in HTML format are not found by
the search engine. I can find words in their headers, but not words in the
bodies of HTML formatted emails.

Does anyone have any idea what is wrong??

(Currently using Outlook 2003)

TIA

Ian J.
Ben M. Schorr - MVP - 31 May 2005 09:54 GMT
> Hello,
>
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>
> Does anyone have any idea what is wrong??

Hmmm.  It works fine here.  Could it be that the text is embedded in an  
HTML image of some kind and not actually text in the body of the message?

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Ian J. - 31 May 2005 10:56 GMT
>> Hello,
>>
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> Hmmm.  It works fine here.  Could it be that the text is embedded in an
> HTML image of some kind and not actually text in the body of the message?

Thx for replying. No, I have checked the message by viewing the source, and
it is definitely showing text that I would have thought would be searchable.

Normal rich and plain text messages are fine, it seems to be just the HTML
ones with the trouble.

Ian J.
Ben M. Schorr - MVP - 31 May 2005 19:05 GMT
> Thx for replying. No, I have checked the message by viewing the source,  
> and
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> ones with the trouble.
> Ian J.

Hmmm.  Do you have all of the latest service packs installed?  Do those  
HTML messages also include images or downloadable content?

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Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
Operations Coordinator
Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
Microsoft OneNote FAQ:  
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr/computers/onenotefaq.htm

Ian J. - 31 May 2005 22:45 GMT
>> Thx for replying. No, I have checked the message by viewing the source,
>> and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Hmmm.  Do you have all of the latest service packs installed?  Do those
> HTML messages also include images or downloadable content?

To the best of my knowledge, all updates have been applied. XP is on SP2,
and office 2003 is on SP1.

Sue Mosher suggested another app to look at, so I will try that.

Thx so far,

Ian J.
Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] - 31 May 2005 13:47 GMT
I'd suggest that you download and install the free Lookout application from Microsoft. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=09b835ee-16e5-4961-91b8
-2200ba31ea37&DisplayLang=en


It vastly improves searching, both in speed and in available features.

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    Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
    http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

> Hello,
>
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>
> Ian J.
Ian J. - 31 May 2005 22:49 GMT
Sue, will this work with the rules wizard in Outlook 2003? My main reason
for searching to find text in HTML emails was to work out why the Rules
wizard wouldn't move messages based on rules I created. I traced this to the
failure to find words using the Find facility.

Also, if the search should work on Outlook with HTML, then it suggests
something is wrong with my installation of Office 2003. I will look into
getting that repaired (though I don't know why it would be wrong as
everything else seems to work ok except I can't click on a link in an email
or news posting and have it open up in IE)

Ian J.

I'd suggest that you download and install the free Lookout application from
Microsoft.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=09b835ee-16e5-4961-91b8
-2200ba31ea37&DisplayLang=en


It vastly improves searching, both in speed and in available features.

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Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
    Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
    Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
    http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

> Hello,
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Ian J.
Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook] - 31 May 2005 22:58 GMT
The Rules Wizard doesn't handle HTML text consistently. (I suspect it's partly because of the way text can be embedded in many different ways in the body of an HTML message.)
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Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
    Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
    Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
    http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

> Sue, will this work with the rules wizard in Outlook 2003? My main reason
> for searching to find text in HTML emails was to work out why the Rules
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> It vastly improves searching, both in speed and in available features.

>> Hello,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>>
>> Ian J.
Ian J. - 31 May 2005 23:41 GMT
Hmmm. Seems odd that the Rules wouldn't be able to search through the HTML
as text (like in Notepad) rather than as some kind of code. But there you
go. One for Microsoft to change perhaps?? They'll certainly need to if
Outlook is to maintain any level of customisability with regards to
filtering Junk email using the Rules... (which is what I'm trying to do - I
don't want my ISP deciding what is and is not spam on my main email
account).

Ian J.

The Rules Wizard doesn't handle HTML text consistently. (I suspect it's
partly because of the way text can be embedded in many different ways in the
body of an HTML message.)
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Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
    Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
    Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
    http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx

> Sue, will this work with the rules wizard in Outlook 2003? My main reason
> for searching to find text in HTML emails was to work out why the Rules
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> It vastly improves searching, both in speed and in available features.

> "Ian J." <leftfield42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3g0ctlF9tn9iU1@individual.net...
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>>
>> Ian J.
 
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