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news@absamail.co.za - 15 Feb 2006 01:17 GMT
Because my ISP suddenly wants email-sends to be authenticated
'like MS-outlook does it', I'm forced to use M$-outsp00k.
Version 5 is what I've got.  Don't tell me to upgrade to newer crap !

The following simple task seems impossible with this garbage
application:
I want to change one-single character in an email that I posted,
and repost the edited version.

After I locate the post in the 'sent' folder, I find that
it can't be edited 'there'.
Neither if it's copied/moved to the 'drafts' folder, can it be edited.

What am I doing wrong ?

== Chris Glur.
Tom Felts - 15 Feb 2006 02:07 GMT
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> Because my ISP suddenly wants email-sends to be authenticated
> 'like MS-outlook does it', I'm forced to use M$-outsp00k.
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> == Chris Glur.
Vanguard - 15 Feb 2006 03:19 GMT
> Because my ISP suddenly wants email-sends to be authenticated
> 'like MS-outlook does it', I'm forced to use M$-outsp00k.
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>
> What am I doing wrong ?

What a whiny child, and bitching about the wrong product, too.  This group
is for Outlook.  It is *not* for Outlook EXPRESS.  There is no version 5 for
Outlook but there is a really old version 5 for Outlook EXPRESS.
Authenticating to the SMTP server is not a requirement of Outlook or Outlook
Express.  It is a requirement of you e-mail provider, and that applies
against ALL E-MAIL CLIENTS!  It is not an Outlook thing.  It is an SMTP
configuration thing.

In Outlook, you can resend a previously sent message.  Outlook EXPRESS does
not have that option (you have to copy from the old message and paste into a
new message).

What you are doing wrong is complaining about a product which is NOT the
topic of THIS newsgroup.  What you are doing wrong is posting in a
completely unrelated newsgroup: comp.human-factors.  Go bitch, ahem, ask in
an Outlook EXPRESS newsgroup.
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] - 15 Feb 2006 05:12 GMT
Try posting this in an Outlook Express news group - this is not one of them.
Outlook is a part of Microsoft Office and is what this group supports.
Outlook Express is a part of Internet Explorer and has its own news groups.

You can also find some good Outlook Express information here:

http://insideoe.tomsterdam.com

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After furious head scratching, news@absamail.co.za asked:

| Because my ISP suddenly wants email-sends to be authenticated
| 'like MS-outlook does it', I'm forced to use M$-outsp00k.
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|
| == Chris Glur.
Brian Tillman - 15 Feb 2006 16:36 GMT
> Because my ISP suddenly wants email-sends to be authenticated
> 'like MS-outlook does it', I'm forced to use M$-outsp00k.
> Version 5 is what I've got.

There is no such program as Outlook V5.  There is Outlook Express V5, part
of Internet Explorer V5, but that's completely different from Outlook
Express.  Moreover, authenticating is trivial in both Outlook and Outlook
Express.

> Don't tell me to upgrade to newer crap !

That has nothing to do with it.

> The following simple task seems impossible with this garbage
> application:
> I want to change one-single character in an email that I posted,
> and repost the edited version.

Post?  Mail doesn't get "posted"  It gets "sent" and "received".  News does
get "posted", but since you're complaining about a mail program, I don't see
how that's relevant.  Perhaps if you were more explicit in describing your
problem you'd get an answer.

> After I locate the post in the 'sent' folder, I find that
> it can't be edited 'there'.
> Neither if it's copied/moved to the 'drafts' folder, can it be edited.

Do you have and Edit menu available when you open the message and is there
an Edit Message item on that menu?
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Brian Tillman

news@absamail.co.za - 16 Feb 2006 05:51 GMT
In article <>, nobody wrote:

> news@absamail.co.za <news@absamail.co.za> wrote:
>
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> Express.  Moreover, authenticating is trivial in both Outlook and Outlook
> Express.

I really wanted to avoid the geniology of M$.
Welcome to correct the spelling, since tht's what some people 'contribute'.

> > Don't tell me to upgrade to newer crap !
>
> That has nothing to do with it.

Correct, except that 'upgrade' is the common 'solution' offered by
fad-followers.

> > The following simple task seems impossible with this garbage
> > application:
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>
> Do you have and Edit menu available when you open the message
Yes.
>  and is
> there an Edit Message item on that menu?
No.
OK it's labeled 'outlook express 5'.
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Anonymous wrote:
> > What am I doing wrong ?

Anonymous wrote:
> What a whiny child, and bitching about the wrong product, too.  
> This group is for Outlook.  It is *not* for Outlook EXPRESS.  
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> Outlook EXPRESS does not have that option (you have to copy
> from the old message and paste into a new message).

Amazing that a product used by the mass of fad-followers lacked
such a basic capability.

> What you are doing wrong is complaining about a product which is NOT
> the topic of THIS newsgroup.  What you are doing wrong is posting in a
> completely unrelated newsgroup: comp.human-factors.  
> Go bitch, ahem, ask in an Outlook EXPRESS newsgroup.

No, I did RIGHT since you are the only poster who admitted that
OE5 can't do the basic function, and have saved me effort/frustration
in seeking further.

Thanks,

== Chris Glur.
 
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