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MS Office Forum / Outlook / New Users / September 2007OE and Outlook sharing
Hi I am following instructions using http://www.slipstick.com/contacts/oeshare.htm and have entered a DWORD named UseOutlook=1 in the registry. Then added a new Contact to OE (ver 6) and it did not appear in Outlook (2000) default contacts folder. The Outlook.exe is not running in Task Manager. Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB, not the reverse.  SignatureRuss Valentine [MVP-Outlook] > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to "live" with the way the screen appears to "refresh" when you view the Inbox and Bulk Mail. I view those 2 folders the most and hardly ever use my default email account. This I find very diffictult on the eye. I need Outlook because I sync all my Contacts with my mobile phone. My initial thoughts were : I would use OE to send and receive for the Hotmail and Default mail account. I would set it so that the email addresses are added to the WAB and therefore it would update Outlook (I thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter contacts in the WAB and expect Outlook to be updated). Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be able to sync with my mobile. I also only want one Contacts list, and I want to use Outlook. What's the best way of deleteing the WAB file - manaully select all or just delete the WAB file itself? Have others had the same problem and is there an easy solution? Cheers. > You misunderstand. That key allows Outlook to share with the WAB, not the > reverse. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. >I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I >found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > thought, but you have advised it is not possible to enter contacts in the > WAB and expect Outlook to be updated). Whoa, hold the phone... a.) that Slipstick article explicitly states that new contacts entered in OE are also seen in Outlook, and; b.) I just tried it, and it works here. (Outlook 2003; OE6) I didn't enable it using RegEdit, though, I just used the Tools -> Options menu in the OE Address Book window. So possibly worth another look before you write this avenue off. -Mark > Then I thought my Contacts would all be in one place and then be able to > sync with my mobile. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>> >>> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. False. You didn't read carefully enough. You ignored the disclaimer: "In certain configurations. " That disclaimer referred to Outlook 2000 in IMO mode, which was actually Outlook Express. What you claim does not occur in valid installations of Outlook 2003 unless you upgraded from IMO and have a corrupt profile. SignatureRuss Valentine [MVP-Outlook] > >>I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >>>> >>>> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. > False. You didn't read carefully enough. You ignored the disclaimer: "In > certain configurations. " That disclaimer referred to Outlook 2000 in IMO > mode, *You* didn't read carefully enough, and I really doubt you've ever even tried it -- and I really don't care for your tone! Why don't you give it another read? What you're saying is 180 degrees out from that article. (Rude and mistaken at the same time is a really bad combination.) > which was actually Outlook Express. That cannot possibly be the case, Outlook 2000 in any mode is not "actually Outlook Express", it has the Outlook UI, complete with calendar, task, notes and journal functionality. Also its MAPI interface is not an extremely limited subset. None of these are true of Outlook Express. What's more, it lacks the extra functionality that Outlook Express does have, including the HTML editor and ability to view raw SMTP source. They are two entirely different products -- where on earth did you get such a crazy idea? That's the biggest wad of hooey I've seen in some time. > What you claim What I've observed... > does not occur in valid installations of Outlook 2003 unless you upgraded > from IMO and have a corrupt profile. Firstly, from what I can see, there is no IMO in Outlook 2003, I just installed fresh it on a virtual, and the default installation gives you 5 different email server types (including IMAP and Exchange Server) when you add an account. Also, I do not see the "Reconfigure Mail" button anywhere in the options dialog. Further still, a search of MSDN for IMO returns a number of hits, all of them are either exclusively about OL2000, or include sentences similar to this: "For Outlook 2000, you can install Outlook in the Internet Mail Only (IMO) mode." And the proof in the pudding is that, on a brand new, squeaky-clean installation, absolutely nothing corrupt about it at all, setting the UseOutlook registry config item WORKS. The menu item I mentioned may well tie back to something in OL2000; clearly, if you read and comprehend the Slipstick article, the functionality is read-only in OL2000... So, based on observations, testing multiple different configurations, what you claim differs from what I've observed. What are your statements based on? -Mark >>>I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I >>>found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. Sorry, but it is well established that Outlook 2000 in IMO actually used Outlook Express address book engine and Simple MAPI for all its transports, not Outlook's Extended MAPI transports. That is the whole reason it had to share the WAB and required OE to be installed. Sharing the WAB by using the Reg hack will have mixed results at best. Accordingly, it is not recommended that you try to create Outlook Contacts via the OE interface. It may work in some situations but is not a reliable way to create Contacts as the OP discovered. SignatureRuss Valentine [MVP-Outlook] > >> False. You didn't read carefully enough. You ignored the disclaimer: "In [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] >>>>>> >>>>>> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. > Sorry, but it is well established that Outlook 2000 in IMO actually used > Outlook Express address book engine and If that was the case, why would WAB be read-only from Outlook? That makes no sense. And if you're trying to say it did not store contacts in the PST store, you're wrong -- yet again. > Simple MAPI for all its transports, All one of them? Even if it's true, so what? > not Outlook's Extended MAPI transports. That is the whole reason it had to > share the WAB and required OE to be installed. > Sharing the WAB by using the Reg hack will have mixed results at best. > Accordingly, it is not recommended that you try to create Outlook Contacts > via the OE interface. It may work in some situations but is not a reliable > way to create Contacts as the OP discovered. The OP is using OL2000, which is documented to be read-only! First you try to say that it'll only work if *not* in IMO, then I point out the flaw in your statements, and now you have another song to sing? You obviously know painfully little about this, but you should at least get your story straight. Please, in the future, make some effort to avoid spreading misinformation -- would that be too much to ask? -Mark >>> False. You didn't read carefully enough. You ignored the disclaimer: "In >>> certain configurations. " That disclaimer referred to Outlook 2000 in [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. That was the request I was making of you. I said none of the things you claim. The WAB file was never used, only the WAB engine. Contacts were always stored in the PST file. But creating Contact Records in Outlook's PST using the OE interface proved to be unreliable on many occasions and often resulted in users losing data. Accordingly, we stopped recommending it years ago. SignatureRuss Valentine [MVP-Outlook] > >> Sorry, but it is well established that Outlook 2000 in IMO actually used [quoted text clipped - 128 lines] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. Hi Yes, I have double checked and it does work! I had to restart my machine. Can I ask one further question .... I mentioned that I added Hotmail to Outlook. The behaviour is strange in that when you click on the Inbox (for example), I can see the all the expected columns, but it not in the correct location, and then it takes 3 seconds for Outlook to "refresh" and "move" the columns to the left of the screen so it is inline and next to the "Folder List". When viewing my default mail account this does not occur. The problem is that I use my Hotmail account alot and constantly moving from the Inbox to the Bulk Mail, and folder to folder, and this is not easy on the eye. Is there really no solution or is there is a workaround. I am sure other people must have the same problem. Please can you let me know your comments. Thanks alot in advance. >>I have a dilemma: I want to use Outlook for all my mail but todate, I >>found been advised that if I try to view my Hotmail account, I have to [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] >>>> >>>> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. there is no solution assuming you have all the latest updates. if you have all the latest updates and it still does it, there is no fix (and won't be). SignatureDiane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook] Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours Need Help with Common Tasks? http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/ Outlook 2007: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2007/ Outlook Tips by email: dailytips-subscribe-request@lists.outlooktips.net Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/ Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com Subscribe to Exchange Messaging Outlook newsletter: EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. This has worked for me. I am now able to share. Thank you > there is no solution assuming you have all the latest updates. if you have > all the latest updates and it still does it, there is no fix (and won't [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] >>>>>> >>>>>> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. > This has worked for me. > > I am now able to share. > > Thank you That's very cool... sorry if your problem seemed to get lost in the heat of other debates on this thread. :-) -Mark >> there is no solution assuming you have all the latest updates. if you >> have all the latest updates and it still does it, there is no fix (and [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. Yes I'm extremely pleased. Not to worry about the debate thread :)) ps. I added Hotmail to Outlook but I am experiencing a screen "refresh" issue where the Hotmail account is displayed in Outlook, then after a couple of seconds, it "moves/refreshes" to the left side of the window pane. Do you know what I mean and is there a solution? >> This has worked for me. >> [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. > Yes I'm extremely pleased. Not to worry about the debate thread :)) > > ps. I added Hotmail to Outlook but I am experiencing a screen "refresh" > issue where the Hotmail account is displayed in Outlook, then after a > couple of seconds, it "moves/refreshes" to the left side of the window > pane. Do you know what I mean and is there a solution? I think I know what you mean, but I'm not sure I've ever seen Outlook do that... How often is it set to check Hotmail for new mail? I wouldn't think it would refresh any more frequently than that. -Mark >>> This has worked for me. >>> [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. Where do I check how often it checks for mail? What I mean is if I am viewing my default mail, then manually click on the "Hotmail Inbox " folder or "Hotmail Bulk Mail" folder, that is when it refreshes. >> Yes I'm extremely pleased. Not to worry about the debate thread :)) >> [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. Oh... I'm afraid I've never used Outlook for Hotmail, I was somewhat assuming you had POP3 access to Hotmail, but from your description that doesn't seem to be the case. Sorry, no help for this one here. -Mark > Where do I check how often it checks for mail? > [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas as to what went wrong? Thank you. |
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