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PowerPoint XP to 2003 upgrade, images/graphics turn black
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h4nne5@gmail.com - 19 Feb 2006 18:19 GMT hi! since i upgraded to pp 2003 some images in slideshows turned into black boxes. the wierd thing is, it does not happen to all images, but only to some. my graphics drivers are up to date and i didnt do any other changes to the system... can someone enlighten me, please? hannes
Echo S - 19 Feb 2006 18:36 GMT > hi! > since i upgraded to pp 2003 some images in slideshows turned into black [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > can someone enlighten me, please? > hannes Go to Help|Check for Updates and make sure you've applied the latest service pack for Office 2003. It's good that you updated your video drivers, as that would have been my next suggestion. :-)
It might also have to do with color profiles. See Transparent areas of graphics turn black http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00627.htm
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h4nne5@gmail.com - 20 Feb 2006 21:46 GMT sigh, didnt work. office is all updated and ready to go. i did some more testing and the problem sometimes happens also when inserting pictures into a presentation... the wierd thing, it all works fine with office xp! how can that be??? grrr
garfield-n-odie [MVP] - 20 Feb 2006 22:12 GMT Could be a variation of the issue described at http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=827302 "TIFF image appears dark when you insert it into PowerPoint 2003".
> sigh, didnt work. office is all updated and ready to go. i did some > more testing and the problem sometimes happens also when inserting > pictures into a presentation... > the wierd thing, it all works fine with office xp! > how can that be??? grrr Echo S - 20 Feb 2006 23:36 GMT > Could be a variation of the issue described at > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=827302 "TIFF image appears dark when > you insert it into PowerPoint 2003". Oh, nice find.
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h4nne5@gmail.com - 20 Feb 2006 23:55 GMT thanks, but didnt solve the problem. so i tought i go into a bit more detail: i uploaded a screenshot: http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?image=immagine5uy.jpg some background: i created the presentation at a uni-computer with office 2003, all working fine, tried to edit at home with office 2003, didnt work. installed office xp, everthing just fine. worked some more on it. used the presentation at uni (office 2003 again) no prob. now i dont want to keep ppt xp AND 2003 on my pc just so some stupid images show up! i did a whole lot of searching and tried so far: video drivers, office updates, reinstalling, installing with all imaginable sort of features, i also tried to redownload the original image-files and when i try to insert them they also turn black. what the hell can that be?? thanks for reading until here
Echo S - 21 Feb 2006 00:15 GMT Thanks for posting the screenshot.
I wonder if it's something specific to the Italian version of PPT?
Have you tried using PPT's transparency wand (on the Picture toolbar) to see if it will remove the black?
> i also tried to redownload the original image-files Where'd the images come from?
I'm still wondering if it's the original photos themselves as described in PPT FAQ http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00627.htm Did you try the trick there -- right-click the blackened picture, select Save Picture As, click the arrow next to the Save button, and choose "save as original." Then open in Photoshop and remove any color profiles. And double-check to make sure they're not 48-bit TIFs. :-)
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> thanks, but didnt solve the problem. > so i tought i go into a bit more detail: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > what the hell can that be?? > thanks for reading until here h4nne5@gmail.com - 21 Feb 2006 18:42 GMT ok, this is getting funny! - when i try the transparency wand this happens: http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=immagine1rp.jpg - the original logos can be found here: http://www.fiatpresse.dk/logos.asp?a=3 - i dont think it's the same issue as discussed at (http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00627.htm), because a) the images are jpegs and not png. b) jpgs dont have transparent areas. - i tried the save as... trick anyways, doesnt help. tried copy/special paste... no success.
what i'm starting to think.. i remember reading about some locks in graphics programs (like ps an corel draw) that prevented you from scanning and modifying dollar notes. could that be something going this direction? protected company logos???
h4nne5@gmail.com - 21 Feb 2006 18:46 GMT actually, probably not... at uni the stuff worked... and thats also why i dont think it's an italian version issue cause, as i said, it worked at uni...
h4nne5@gmail.com - 21 Feb 2006 18:47 GMT oh, and by the way: if i open the saved as... images in photoshop they are just big black jpegs...
Echo S - 21 Feb 2006 19:25 GMT You'r right, JPGs don't have transparency. Sorry -- I didn't recall we were working with JPG.
When I open these 3 logo images in Photoshop, they look fine. (I went to the link, clicked "download," let each image open in the new window, right-clicked and chose Save Picture As and saved. Left the name and file type alone.) I'm not sure about the lock and dollar notes you're talking about.
If I open the file properties in Photoshop, I do see photoshop:ColorMode: 3 and photoshop:ICCProfile: sRGB IEc61966-2.1, which leads me back to thinking it's an issue with the color profile, which is what FAQ 627 discusses. You need to remove this color profile on the images as described. This is further supported by the fact that the one logo which does work in your document does *not* have a color profile assigned in Photoshop. That's why it's not turning black.
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> ok, this is getting funny! > - when i try the transparency wand this happens: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > scanning and modifying dollar notes. could that be something going this > direction? protected company logos??? Echo S - 21 Feb 2006 19:28 GMT To reiterate, here's a quote from http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00627.htm
you can remove a colour profile from a specific image in Photoshop by choosing Image, Mode, Assign profile, Don't colour manage this document (or Edit, Assign profile in Photoshop CS/2).
Doing this should resolve the issue.
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> You'r right, JPGs don't have transparency. Sorry -- I didn't recall we > were working with JPG. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> scanning and modifying dollar notes. could that be something going this >> direction? protected company logos??? h4nne5@gmail.com - 21 Feb 2006 19:38 GMT yuhuu! got it! thank you! just one/two last thing? -why does it work on your and university ppt without first removing the profile? can i do something to make my ppt version work? -is there a way to replace the original of an image in a slideshow? so i wont have to redo all the slides?
Echo S - 21 Feb 2006 19:47 GMT > yuhuu! got it! thank you! Finally! Third time's a charm, I guess. :-)
> just one/two last thing? > -why does it work on your and university ppt without first removing the > profile? I don't know.
> can i do something to make my ppt version work? Not that I'm aware.
> -is there a way to replace the original of an image in a slideshow? so > i wont have to redo all the slides? No, not unless the image was linked. You'd know if it was linked, so chances are, it's not.
If the image is on the same place on all (or most) of the slides, put the image on the slide master. That should save you some work.
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Echo S - 21 Feb 2006 19:52 GMT ">> -why does it work on your and university ppt without first removing the
>> profile? Oh, you know, it might have to do with what all was installed when Photoshop was installed on the various computers. Maybe if you don't have the color profile the image uses, the image shows up black.
Sounds reasonable to me, but I've no idea if it really works that way or not, sorry.
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h4nne5@gmail.com - 21 Feb 2006 19:57 GMT well, thank you verry much for everything!!
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