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Text becomes Jagged when file is saved as a web page

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geometryfrog - 05 Jun 2006 04:21 GMT
The following happens when I save my ppt slides as a web page:
On some ppt slides the font becomes jagged for all text... On other slides
the font is perfect...  And on some slides just random text is jagged.  Also,
when the text becomes jagged, it looks like the text has been formatted to be
bold (and it is not).

I'm using PPT2002 that came with Office XP Professional.
tidalbobo - 05 Jun 2006 04:40 GMT
This is because some text is saved as images. Unless otherwise
specified images aresaved as JPor GIF, resulting in jaggering of text
in the process.

When saving as web page, go to "web options/browesers" and tick the
option "Allow PNG".  This is suppoted only on IE6+, but gives sharp
defined text.

> The following happens when I save my ppt slides as a web page:
> On some ppt slides the font becomes jagged for all text... On other slides
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> I'm using PPT2002 that came with Office XP Professional.
geometryfrog - 05 Jun 2006 14:53 GMT
Unfortunately that didn't work.  When using "web page preview", some of the
text changes to a bold looking jagged edged font (very sloppy).  Any other
suggestions to fix this problem would be greatly appreciated.  If I have to,
I could send you an attachment of the files.

> This is because some text is saved as images. Unless otherwise
> specified images aresaved as JPor GIF, resulting in jaggering of text
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> >
> > I'm using PPT2002 that came with Office XP Professional.
Steve Rindsberg - 05 Jun 2006 16:10 GMT
> Unfortunately that didn't work.  When using "web page preview", some of the
> text changes to a bold looking jagged edged font (very sloppy).  

Does this only happen to some slides in the presentation but not all?

What happens if you re-create the slide from scratch (slides sometimes go corrupt
for reasons unknown;  one symptom is that the text font/boldness changes ... not
when editing or in slideshow mode but when you export to PNG or other image files,
which also happens when saving as HTML.)
Echo S - 05 Jun 2006 15:46 GMT
What's the difference between the perfect slides and the jagged slides?

I'm asking because ISTR Steve Rindsberg once explaining to me why saving as
web page resulted in crappy looking charts. I can't remember the details,
but I think it had to do with PPT creating images with lower bit-depth
because it didn't see anything on the slide that made it think it needed
better quality.

Personally, I'd just grab Steve's PPT2HTML utility and be done with it.
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptools/ppt2html/index.html

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> The following happens when I save my ppt slides as a web page:
> On some ppt slides the font becomes jagged for all text... On other slides
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>
> I'm using PPT2002 that came with Office XP Professional.
geometryfrog - 05 Jun 2006 16:38 GMT
The difference is that the text in the regular slides are perfect (using
Arial Narrow) and in web page preview they sometimes look perfect but most of
the time they look jagged.  I have to fix this problem.

I downloaded the demo version of Steve's PPT2HTML utility and used it.  My
slides still have the same problem.  I don't know if something in the
preferences would help.  If the utility works, I'll order it.

Suggestions?

> What's the difference between the perfect slides and the jagged slides?
>
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> > I'm using PPT2002 that came with Office XP Professional.
Echo S - 05 Jun 2006 16:44 GMT
No, I mean what is the difference with what's on the slides themselves? Are
the problem slides just text, whereas the okay slides have text and, oh, I
don't know, a company logo or something?

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> The difference is that the text in the regular slides are perfect (using
> Arial Narrow) and in web page preview they sometimes look perfect but most
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>> > I'm using PPT2002 that came with Office XP Professional.
geometryfrog - 05 Jun 2006 17:09 GMT
Example:
One slide has text and some letters are fuzzy and others are not. Another
slide has shapes and 5 or 6 text boxes.  Only one of the tex boxes on this
slide looks bold and jagged all other text boxes look perfect.  On other
slides which consist mostly of text boxes 2, 3, or 4 text boxes have fonts
that are jagged.

> No, I mean what is the difference with what's on the slides themselves? Are
> the problem slides just text, whereas the okay slides have text and, oh, I
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> >> > I'm using PPT2002 that came with Office XP Professional.
Kathy Jacobs - 05 Jun 2006 17:14 GMT
How about animations? Are the shapes or text on one slide animated, but not
on the other?

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> Example:
> One slide has text and some letters are fuzzy and others are not. Another
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>> >> > I'm using PPT2002 that came with Office XP Professional.
geometryfrog - 05 Jun 2006 17:45 GMT
That may be the problem.  This may be premature but I noticed that the
animations that said "peek in" seem to be causing the problem.  I created
these slides 3-4 years ago with an older version of ppt.  

Is there a way to replace all the "peek in" animations (kind of like
replacing a font for the entire presentation)?

Thanks for your help!!!

> How about animations? Are the shapes or text on one slide animated, but not
> on the other?
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> >> >> > I'm using PPT2002 that came with Office XP Professional.
Kathy Jacobs - 05 Jun 2006 18:38 GMT
Peek in may very well be the problem. I've noticed that some animations
cause this problem much more than others. The ones that cause the most
problems are ones that bring text in and out before the text settles.

I don't know any way to replace a specific animation everywhere in a
presentation, but maybe one of the code guys knows of a way....

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Kathryn Jacobs,  Microsoft MVP PowerPoint and OneNote
Author of Kathy Jacobs on PowerPoint - Available now from Holy Macro! Books
Get PowerPoint and OneNote information at www.onppt.com

I believe life is meant to be lived. But:
if we live without making a difference, it makes no difference that we lived

> That may be the problem.  This may be premature but I noticed that the
> animations that said "peek in" seem to be causing the problem.  I created
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>> >> >> > I'm using PPT2002 that came with Office XP Professional.
geometryfrog - 05 Jun 2006 19:51 GMT
I was able to clear the problem on my first 3 slides.  Slide 4 won't let me
fix it, regardless of the animation.  The big problem is that I have 1030
slides with an average of 20 animations.  There has to be a better way.

Thanks for your help.

> Peek in may very well be the problem. I've noticed that some animations
> cause this problem much more than others. The ones that cause the most
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> >> >> >> > I'm using PPT2002 that came with Office XP Professional.
Steve Rindsberg - 05 Jun 2006 20:55 GMT
> I was able to clear the problem on my first 3 slides.  Slide 4 won't let me
> fix it, regardless of the animation.  The big problem is that I have 1030
> slides with an average of 20 animations.  There has to be a better way.

If nothing else, I can save you the trouble of testing PPT2HTML ... if
animations are important in the HTML version of the show, it's not the tool for
you.  It won't preserve the animations.
Steve Rindsberg - 05 Jun 2006 20:55 GMT
> Example:
> One slide has text and some letters are fuzzy and others are not. Another
> slide has shapes and 5 or 6 text boxes.  Only one of the tex boxes on this
> slide looks bold and jagged all other text boxes look perfect.  On other
> slides which consist mostly of text boxes 2, 3, or 4 text boxes have fonts
> that are jagged.

OK, I know what Echo was referring to and it doesn't SOUND as though that's at
issue here.

Do you have an example on the web we can look at?  If so, post a URL.

> > No, I mean what is the difference with what's on the slides themselves? Are
> > the problem slides just text, whereas the okay slides have text and, oh, I
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> > >> >
> > >> > I'm using PPT2002 that came with Office XP Professional.

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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ:  www.pptfaq.com
PPTools:  www.pptools.com
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geometryfrog - 05 Jun 2006 21:49 GMT
Steve,
I need some help posting a URL.  It is ready to go as a web page.

> > Example:
> > One slide has text and some letters are fuzzy and others are not. Another
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> PPTools:  www.pptools.com
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Steve Rindsberg - 06 Jun 2006 01:26 GMT
> Steve,
> I need some help posting a URL.  It is ready to go as a web page.

Do you have a web site?  

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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ:  www.pptfaq.com
PPTools:  www.pptools.com
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geometryfrog - 06 Jun 2006 12:34 GMT
I tried using my "Personal Web Page" (pwp) in bellsouth, but had a hard time
with the FTP.  Something isn't working correctly.  I am trying to get 60+
presentations (1030 slides) ready for a website that my partner is creating.  
I have been checking how my presentations look as a web page by just
selecting "web page preview" in ppt.  Any recommendations?  Should I attach
one via email?  Thanks again for your help.

> Steve,
> I need some help posting a URL.  It is ready to go as a web page.
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> > PPTools:  www.pptools.com
> > ================================================
Steve Rindsberg - 06 Jun 2006 15:56 GMT
> I tried using my "Personal Web Page" (pwp) in bellsouth, but had a hard time
> with the FTP.  Something isn't working correctly.  I am trying to get 60+
> presentations (1030 slides) ready for a website that my partner is creating.  

Your partner should know how to upload files to his or her site, no?  Perhaps the
partner can take care of uploading an example for you.

> I have been checking how my presentations look as a web page by just
> selecting "web page preview" in ppt.  Any recommendations?  Should I attach
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> > > PPTools:  www.pptools.com
> > > ================================================

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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ:  www.pptfaq.com
PPTools:  www.pptools.com
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