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MS Office Forum / General PowerPoint Questions / June 2006Very slow text entry in PowerPoint 2007 beta
Entering text in PowerPoint 20007 beta is a chore; it is remarkably slow, a fast typist can easily outrun the program and it renders it unusable. This is quite a contrast from PowerPoint 2003, which, on average, was a fast application. A member of this board suggested reducing reducing the degree of hardware acceleration to improve performance but this did not do anything apart from cancelling video playing in some applications. I wonder if any users have observed this problem and if it is related to specific video cards and drivers (I have an ATI X850). I would appreciate any comments. Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is just a beta bug. You can expect the performance level to increase substantially upon final release. As it stands right now, just about EVERYTHING lags in the new Office suite. Some believe it is the new "live preview" feature that is causing this lag.. it's using too many resources and is not implemented properly yet. yeah.. expect it's a beta thing. > Entering text in PowerPoint 20007 beta is a chore; it is remarkably slow, a > fast typist can easily outrun the program and it renders it unusable. This [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > users have observed this problem and if it is related to specific video cards > and drivers (I have an ATI X850). I would appreciate any comments. > As it stands right now, just about EVERYTHING lags in the new Office suite. > Some believe it is the new "live preview" feature that is causing this lag.. > it's using too many resources and is not implemented properly yet. Did you know that you can disable live preview? RoundOfficeLogoToLeftOfHomeTabThing. Whatever it's called. Click that. Click Personalize. Remove check next to Enable Live Preview. Dead Preview livens things up a bit. ;-) Disabling Live Preview does not alter the behavior of Powerpoint 2007. I tried to no avail. > > As it stands right now, just about EVERYTHING lags in the new Office suite. > > Some believe it is the new "live preview" feature that is causing this lag.. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Dead Preview livens things up a bit. ;-) > Disabling Live Preview does not alter the behavior of Powerpoint 2007. I > tried to no avail. No, not the text stuff you've mentioned, as has been pointed out. I was responding more to Dawgma's general post about previews. Sorry if that sowed confusion in the rancors. <g> ----------------------------------------- Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================ Hi ADR, How slow? What system are you running this on? Does it happen for all text whenever you type or are there specific cases in which it happens? The live preview feature has probably no influence on this, as it is only activated when you use any of the features that have Live Preview, and not when you just type text. This sounds more like something that is worth investigating and figuring out why it is happening, so that MS can fix it for the next beta release. Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net > Entering text in PowerPoint 20007 beta is a chore; it is remarkably slow, a > fast typist can easily outrun the program and it renders it unusable. This [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > users have observed this problem and if it is related to specific video cards > and drivers (I have an ATI X850). I would appreciate any comments. How slow? Terribly slow. When I type, it seems that the cursor jumps in front, then to the back and then again in front of the letter that I am typing. Within a few words, I have outrun the system by miles. I am running a really fast system that is extremely stable. I am running Win XP Pro in a top-end Intel dual-core system (850 EE) with 2 GB of RAM and 500 GB of storage (additional 500 GB are external). The video card is an ATI X850 with 256 Mb video RAM and it is running the latest driver. McAfee provides the Internet Security Software. I have installed Office 2007 beta in a different directory so I still have Office 2003 installed. Neither Word or Excel 2007 beta display the text slowdown problem, only PowerPoint. Again, any comments will be appreciated. > Hi ADR, > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > users have observed this problem and if it is related to specific video cards > > and drivers (I have an ATI X850). I would appreciate any comments. > How slow? Terribly slow. When I type, it seems that the cursor jumps in > front, then to the back and then again in front of the letter that I am > typing. Within a few words, I have outrun the system by miles. Geez. That is 100% not a general beta performance issue. You are hitting some serious performance problem here that MS needs to know about and fix. > I am running a really fast system that is extremely stable. I am running > Win XP Pro in a top-end Intel dual-core system (850 EE) with 2 GB of RAM and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > in a different directory so I still have Office 2003 installed. Neither Word > or Excel 2007 beta display the text slowdown problem, only PowerPoint. Your system is too good for PPT? ;) Please try this with PPT freshly opened and by typing in the default placeholders on the default slide that PPT opens up with. Let's cover the obvious ones: 1. You rebooted and still have the same issue? 2. If you close all other programs (including virus scanner, spyware scanner, etc), do you still have the issue? 3. If you switch off hardware acceleration completely, do you still have the issue? 4. Open PPT and the Task Manager, sort processes by CPU activity (highest first). When you type in PPT, which process has the highest CPU usage and how much? If it's not PPT, what CPU usage does PPT show? 5. Open PPT and task Manager. This time, look at the performance tab. How much physical memory is available while you type in PPT? Thanks, Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net > Again, any comments will be appreciated. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > users have observed this problem and if it is related to specific video cards > > > and drivers (I have an ATI X850). I would appreciate any comments. Patrick: Hardware acceleration changes do not help. I had done them before, I did them again but they have little effect on the system (apart from breaking video playing programs) However, I examined the system and saw what was happening when typing in Powerpoint. On the basis of single typing, CPU utilization in Powerpoint rose to 50-70%!!! Maybe this is typical or maybe it is not -I simply do not know- but it seems to me that there is a lot of CPU utilization for the simple act of typing in a dual-core system. No other processes were recording any serious activity at that time. I contrasted this with Word 2007 beta. Typing in this application resulted in just 2% of CPU utilization!!! There is little doubt that there is something weird happening with PowerPoint 2007 in my system. I hope that it gets fixed in the final version. As it is now, it is unusable. Thanks for your efforts I hope that this helps. As noted > > How slow? Terribly slow. When I type, it seems that the cursor jumps > in [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > > > users have observed this problem and if it is related to specific video cards > > > > and drivers (I have an ATI X850). I would appreciate any comments. Hi, Does the high CPU utilization only occur when you are typing? Do you have any add-ins loaded in PPT (PPT Options, Add-ins?)? 50-70% is nuts and an issue that needs to be fixed. Can you type msinfo32 into Start, Run and then say File, Save? This probably runs then for 10-15 mins. If it's done, please zip up the file and email it to me (get my email from my website). This file represents your computer configuration and I'd like to submit it together with your CPU findings to MS so that they can investigate this. Thanks, Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net > Patrick: > [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > > > > > users have observed this problem and if it is related to specific video cards > > > > > and drivers (I have an ATI X850). I would appreciate any comments. Dear Patrick I am sending you the file. The answer to your question is "no", I have no add-ins for PowerPoint. Yes, the CPU utilization increases exactly when I type. And there is a difference in CPU utilization depending on the type of slide I am creating. There is a lot more CPU utilization when I type on a "Title and Content" -and other types that allow for bullet-based data entry -slide compared to typing on a "Slide Title" (where CPU utilization is only about 10%). > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] > > > > > > users have observed this problem and if it is related to specific video cards > > > > > > and drivers (I have an ATI X850). I would appreciate any comments. I got the file. I have submitted the bug to Microsoft and will let you know via email once I hear back from them. Thanks for taking the time to test this! Patrick Schmid -------------- http://pschmid.net > Dear Patrick > [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] > > > > > > > users have observed this problem and if it is related to specific video cards > > > > > > > and drivers (I have an ATI X850). I would appreciate any comments. |
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