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Set NotesMaster width?
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caten - 07 Aug 2006 15:53 GMT Somehow I have two PowerPoint files (which I'm pretty sure originated from the same place) that are different widths. That is, when I open them side by side in NotesMaster view, the ruler at the top of PPT 1 goes from the zero point in the middle to about 3.75 on either side and the ruler at the top of PPT 2 goes from the zero point in the middle to about 4.0 on either side.
I wrote a script to show me the NotesMaster width (PPT 1 width = 576 and PPT2 width = 540) but when I try to set the width property I get an error. I see (in the VBA Help) that the Master Width property is Read Only, but I'm wondering if there is any way to set it or change it. For that matter, how did it get set in the first place -- and why didn't it get set the same in both PPT files?
Is there some page setup property that I'm missing? How might I get both of these files' Notes Masters to be the same size? (I'm trying to do some formatting programmatically but when I put a shape in the center of the page in one file, then in the other file it is off center.)
Echo S - 07 Aug 2006 16:26 GMT It might just be that the page setup is different. Manually, you'd go to File|Page Setup to see what page size has been used.
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> Somehow I have two PowerPoint files (which I'm pretty sure originated from > the same place) that are different widths. That is, when I open them side [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > page > in one file, then in the other file it is off center.) caten - 07 Aug 2006 21:35 GMT No, the Page Setup properties only define the dimensions of the slide, not the slide's Notes Page. Also I checked and those dimensions are the same in the two files.
> It might just be that the page setup is different. Manually, you'd go to > File|Page Setup to see what page size has been used. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > page > > in one file, then in the other file it is off center.) Steve Rindsberg - 08 Aug 2006 18:56 GMT > No, the Page Setup properties only define the dimensions of the slide, not > the slide's Notes Page. Also I checked and those dimensions are the same in > the two files. We ran into this a time or two before here. Much headscratching. I think the final decision was that the presentation included slides that originated in both pre-2002 and 2002 and up versions of PPT and that the presentation may have wandered through some land where they use centimeters.
Until 2002, PowerPoint incorrectly defined cm at 2.4 to the inch. In 2002 that got changed to 2.54, something like the more usual non-MS standard.
Any chance that some of the slides have been through different versions?
> > It might just be that the page setup is different. Manually, you'd go to > > File|Page Setup to see what page size has been used. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > > page > > > in one file, then in the other file it is off center.) ----------------------------------------- Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================
caten - 08 Aug 2006 21:01 GMT Yeah, I had read about that here: http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00072.htm
But it seemed to apply only to the size of objects displayed on the slide, not the entire page, which I'd expected to remain constant in relation to a standard 8.5 x 11" sheet of paper.
To answer your question, though, I had tried not to open any of the files I'm working with in versions of PowerPoint later than 2000 (for other reasons), but I suppose it's possible that at some time I opened a PPT file from Windows Explorer and Windows XP assumed (erroneously) that I wanted to open with PowerPoint 2003, not PowerPoint 2000. (After which I would have returned to open it in PowerPoint 2000, resulting in a potential conversion twice, once in each direction?)
In any case, is there any remedy?
The thing that really baffles me is that if I open the 2 files in PowerPoint 2000, their notes page widths are different. Likewise, if I open the 2 files in PowerPoint 2003, their notes page widths are different. At what point is the width set and is it truly permanent? Is there any way to "trick" PowerPoint into reinterpreting the width in one version of PowerPoint or another?
Alternatively, if I want to make sure that the slide is centered on the page regardless of the page width, can I get the slide width, get the page width (minus the margins), find the difference, divide it by two and then align the slide at that position? If so, what unit of measure(s) do I need to use?
Any other ideas?
> > No, the Page Setup properties only define the dimensions of the slide, not > > the slide's Notes Page. Also I checked and those dimensions are the same in [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > PPTools: www.pptools.com > ================================================ Steve Rindsberg - 09 Aug 2006 01:09 GMT I'd like to have a look at these files, or better, versions that you've stripped all the content out but left the slides themselves so we don't have to worry about who sees what.
I have a few things I can try but would need example files to play with.
If I come up with a fix, I'll of course let you know and will probably add it to the FAQ.
If that's ok, email the files to steve at-sign pptools dot com
In the body of the email, remind me what this is all about ... better yet, just copy and paste this whole message into it. That'd be perfect.
> Yeah, I had read about that here: > http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00072.htm [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > > PPTools: www.pptools.com > > ================================================ ----------------------------------------- Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================
suebriz@gmail.com - 29 Aug 2006 23:57 GMT I am having the same issue... was there ever any resolution or workaround? This is really driving me batty.
Sue
> I'd like to have a look at these files, or better, versions that you've stripped all > the content out but left the slides themselves so we don't have to worry about who [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > PPTools: www.pptools.com > ================================================ Steve Rindsberg - 02 Sep 2006 04:30 GMT > I am having the same issue... was there ever any resolution or > workaround? This is really driving me batty. Time to turn the bats loose:
Notes pages are odd-sized http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00811.htm
> Sue > [quoted text clipped - 101 lines] > > PPTools: www.pptools.com > > ================================================ ----------------------------------------- Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================
Steve Rindsberg - 02 Sep 2006 04:30 GMT Took me long enough, didn't it? Sorry 'bout that. I've emailed you on this, Lisa, and also described the fix in a little more detail at:
Notes pages are odd-sized http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00811.htm
> Somehow I have two PowerPoint files (which I'm pretty sure originated from > the same place) that are different widths. That is, when I open them side by [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > formatting programmatically but when I put a shape in the center of the page > in one file, then in the other file it is off center.) ----------------------------------------- Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================
Spence - 04 Oct 2007 13:16 GMT I can't believe there isn't a simple "changes notes page size" option. I haven't tried your fix yet, but thanks for going through the trouble.
> Took me long enough, didn't it? Sorry 'bout that. > I've emailed you on this, Lisa, and also described the fix in a little more [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > PPTools: www.pptools.com > ================================================ Trudi - 25 Oct 2007 03:26 GMT Hi Steve,
Can you tell me how to get to Script Editor in powerpoint 2007 please?
Trudi
> Took me long enough, didn't it? Sorry 'bout that. > I've emailed you on this, Lisa, and also described the fix in a little more [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > PPTools: www.pptools.com > ================================================ Steve Rindsberg - 25 Oct 2007 05:51 GMT > Hi Steve, > > Can you tell me how to get to Script Editor in powerpoint 2007 please? It's gone. Sniff. No longer supported in 2007.
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Steve Rindsberg - 25 Oct 2007 22:15 GMT > Hi Steve, > > Can you tell me how to get to Script Editor in powerpoint 2007 please? Ooops. Answered this before but I left out something:
There's no script editor any longer, but you can probably save as web page, edit the resulting HTML/XML files, then open the web page back into PPT and get more or less the same results.
(Note that this is possible in 2003 but I haven't yet tried it in 2007. MS no longer attempts "full fidelity round-tripping" to HTML and back in 2007, so some features may get lost when you do this.
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