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MS Office Forum / General PowerPoint Questions / February 2007disapearing backgrounds
Regarding the odd symptom of backgrounds randomly not appearing while in show mode on ppt2003, someone below suggested --- "GDI objects exhausted" This comment led me down a path that I don't entirely understand, but what the heck, I may have found something of use. I opened the task manager, selected the VIEW menu, chose SELECT COLUMNS, picked GDI OBJECTS from the list. I then sorted the tasks by GDI objects, putting the biggest user on top. Then I ran the offending powerpoint file with the task manager open, which stayed on top, even in show mode. Fun. I observed the number of GDI Objects in powerpoint, which stayed steady at about 240 (whatever that means) as I clicked through the show. Here is the interesting part: I noticed that there is a process, an application called WISPTIS.EXE, that had 2,446 GDI objects! Explorer.exe was 2nd with 853. I ran another, older computer and checked, no WISPTIS present. Only the newer machine, which until now I failed to mention was running Media Center Edition 2002 sp2, had WISPTIS, which turns out is an application that is a "pen input device tool for the Microsoft Tablet PC platform". If you google "wisptis.exe gdi objects" you will find a bunch of links to people complaining about this issue. I haven't gotten all the way to the bottom of this, but it looks like this could be something to look into. My older PC, a Dell 8600, does not have the "disapearing background" problem, and is not a "media center edition" PC... I guess the tablet functionality is part of media center edition? BTW, one guy out there suggest that Adobe Acrobat reader also somehow generates GDI objects, that pile up (somehow). Can't vouch for the statement, but I do use the reader... Here is a thread that talks about the evils of wisptis.exe and possible fixes. I HAVE NOT TRIED THESE. http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1260&highlight=wisp Any thoughts on excessive GDI objects as the reason for the problem? - Steven Michelsen "hu zhenghui" <huzhengh@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1171141503.512697.78830@a34g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 9, 7:47 pm, "Steve M" <nom...@for.me> wrote: >> I haven't tried the fix suggested below yet, but according to the PPT FAQ >> recommended by John below, ppt 2003 does not make use of hardware >> acceleration anyway, so how can that be the issue? I will give it a try >> if >> the problem persists today however. >> >> The computer with the issue is a Dell e1705 with an NVidia 256MB card, >> set >> to 1024x768, centered (actual pixels, not interpolated to fill the >> screen) >> and connected to a 1024x768 projector. >> >> "...Note that by default PowerPoint 2002 (XP) and 2003 do not use >> Hardware >> Graphics Acceleration in Slide Show view. This is by design, in order to >> minimize the chance of video hardware and driver errors..." >> >> "John Wilson" <john AT technologytrish.co DOT uk> wrote in >> messagenews:E65F4C33-7389-4726-B8AA-3B8561702401@microsoft.com... >> >> > maybe try notching back graphics accelleration? >> >http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.htm >> > -- >> >> > Did that answer the question / help? >> > _____________________________ >> > John Wilson >> > Microsoft Certified Office Specialist >> >http://www.technologytrish.co.uk/ppttipshome.html >> >> > "Steve" wrote: >> >> >> I have a presentation that on rare occasion while cueing through it in >> >> show >> >> mode, the background of the slide will NOT appear, and occasionally >> >> certain >> >> chart elements will also not appear. When this happens, if I go back >> >> to >> >> the >> >> prior slide, then forward again, the slide appears correctly. The >> >> background is a standard PPT color, nothing unusual.- Hide quoted >> >> text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > It seems GDI object exhausted. When that occur again, you may open > Task Manager and check the GDI counter of the processes. Very interesting, Steve. Thanks for posting it. Maybe turning hardware acceleration down disables the tablet tools, and that's why it resolves the problem?  SignatureEcho [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/ > Regarding the odd symptom of backgrounds randomly not appearing while in > show mode on ppt2003, someone below suggested --- "GDI objects exhausted" [quoted text clipped - 92 lines] >> It seems GDI object exhausted. When that occur again, you may open >> Task Manager and check the GDI counter of the processes. I just had the same problem today, with a PC that does not run WISPTIS and all it's GDI objects. I looked at the GDI objects list in the task manager and saw that I had about 2500 between all the apps I had running - Internet explorer, outlook, etc. I shut down the unneeded apps, and stopped and restarted explorer.exe (went from 800 to 200 objects). Then I ran through the offending file with no problem. So in part the issue in part may be a matter of the old story - shut down unneeded stuff while in "show mode". On the PC with wispsis, for now I will just stop the process in the task manager, as well as the other steps, when I need to run a show. If anyone can explain WHY GDI objects have an impact here, I would love to hear about it. > Very interesting, Steve. Thanks for posting it. > [quoted text clipped - 104 lines] >>> It seems GDI object exhausted. When that occur again, you may open >>> Task Manager and check the GDI counter of the processes. Just thinking aloud here, but I believe PPT uses the GDIplus.DLL file when it runs (I know the PPT Viewer does, anyway), and probably the other apps use it as well -- so I'd guess it has something to do with that . SignatureEcho [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/ >I just had the same problem today, with a PC that does not run WISPTIS and > all it's GDI objects. I looked at the GDI objects list in the task [quoted text clipped - 123 lines] >>>> It seems GDI object exhausted. When that occur again, you may open >>>> Task Manager and check the GDI counter of the processes. MY PC started doing it's "disapearing elements" trick again, after a long day of running ppt files. It happened when I had about 10 little ppt files open - 30MB total. Fortunately I was in a speaker review, not a meeting. Here is what I found on the gdiplus.dll. This is all I know... "...The gdiplus.dll library is required for windows to operate. It is used by windows when communicating with your video card in order to disaply graphics on screen. If gdiplus.dll is unavailable, windows will not function correctly..." as it relates to the video card it sounds reasonable that the issue could be tied to it, but I still have no clue as to what to do about it all, other than to be sure to run a minimum of apps and files when running a ppt show. This was not always necessary - bummer. > Just thinking aloud here, but I believe PPT uses the GDIplus.DLL file when > it runs (I know the PPT Viewer does, anyway), and probably the other apps [quoted text clipped - 138 lines] >>>>> It seems GDI object exhausted. When that occur again, you may open >>>>> Task Manager and check the GDI counter of the processes. |
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