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embeded sound stops playing on differnt computers
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smd2010 - 17 Feb 2007 18:49 GMT my presentation has some embeded sounds that play fine on my computer, but when i play the presentaion on other computers, the sound plays, but stops before it is done playing, what is wrong?
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John Wilson - 17 Feb 2007 19:21 GMT I misunderstood you in the othrer post (best to keep to one BTW) - so it plays OK but stops before it has run its course?
How is it inserted (eg is it insert > movies & sounds OR as a transition sound) and what are the settings in custom animation timing especially the stop setting?
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> my presentation has some embeded sounds that play fine on my computer, but > when i play the presentaion on other computers, the sound plays, but stops > before it is done playing, what is wrong? smd2010 - 17 Feb 2007 19:35 GMT ok, yeah its plays ok, but it stops playing before it completly runs through. the clip is only about 1 sec long. the sound plays when an autoshape (retangle) appears. i don't see any options for stop. where should i be looking for that? and if it plays fine on my computer, y wouldn't it on other computers?
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John Wilson - 17 Feb 2007 20:04 GMT Is the rectangle appearing followed by another animation (after previous)??
If so is it possible that the "sound" of this one is "stop previous sound"?
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> ok, yeah its plays ok, but it stops playing before it completly runs through. > the clip is only about 1 sec long. the sound plays when an autoshape > (retangle) appears. i don't see any options for stop. where should i be > looking for that? and if it plays fine on my computer, y wouldn't it on > other computers? smd2010 - 17 Feb 2007 20:20 GMT the rectangle IS followed by another rectangle that IS set to "after previous", but the second rectangle is not set to "stop previous sound" because the second rectangle plays a song. But if the second rectangle is set to "after previous", does it matter what it's sound setting is?
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John Wilson - 17 Feb 2007 20:48 GMT That second sond would stop the first sound (depends on you sound card but it could well) Maybe add a short delay to the second animation so that it plays say 1/2 second after the first ends. -- -------------------------------------------- Amazing PPT Hints, Tips and Tutorials-http://www.PPTAlchemy.co.uk http://www.technologytrish.co.uk/ppttipshome.html email john AT technologytrish.co.uk
> the rectangle IS followed by another rectangle that IS set to "after > previous", but the second rectangle is not set to "stop previous sound" > because the second rectangle plays a song. But if the second rectangle is > set to "after previous", does it matter what it's sound setting is? smd2010 - 17 Feb 2007 20:51 GMT alright, i'll try it
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> That second sond would stop the first sound (depends on you sound card but it > could well) Maybe add a short delay to the second animation so that it plays [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > because the second rectangle plays a song. But if the second rectangle is > > set to "after previous", does it matter what it's sound setting is? smd2010 - 17 Feb 2007 21:07 GMT alright, i used a different computer in my house and it worked, but i've noticed another problem... i said something earlier about the embeded fonts... well they transfer to another computer, but only when i'm editing, when i play the slideshow on the second computer, the embeded fonts are no longer the same fonts. i don't get what the problem is with that. i don't think it was in the article you game me a link to, was it? if its not, do you know what the problem is?
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Austin Myers - 18 Feb 2007 00:35 GMT Does the license for the font allow it to be embedded? Many commercial fonts do not.
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> alright, i used a different computer in my house and it worked, but i've > noticed another problem... i said something earlier about the embeded [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > think it was in the article you game me a link to, was it? if its not, do > you know what the problem is? smd2010 - 18 Feb 2007 00:57 GMT its a font that was already on the computer, so it should work, i don't know why the other computer doesn't have the font though, its possible it was deleted, but that still doesn't explain why it won't work when its embeded on the slidewhow
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> Does the license for the font allow it to be embedded? Many commercial > fonts do not. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > think it was in the article you game me a link to, was it? if its not, do > > you know what the problem is? Austin Myers - 18 Feb 2007 16:25 GMT > its a font that was already on the computer, so it should work, Not really. Lots of applications and OEM setups include fonts.
>i don't know > why the other computer doesn't have the font though, its possible it was > deleted, but that still doesn't explain why it won't work when its embeded > on > the slidewhow Because some fonts can not be embedded. Have a read here: http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00076.htm
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Steve Rindsberg - 18 Feb 2007 16:50 GMT > its a font that was already on the computer, so it should work, Meaning that it was on the computer where you created the presentation? Remember, we're not looking over your shoulder. Your words are our eyes. Best to make it as clear as possible.
The fact that the font's on the computer doesn't mean much except that it's on the computer. It doesn't mean that any other computer has the font and it doesn't mean that the font's embeddable.
Generally, if a font's not embeddable, PPT will display an error message when you try to save the presentation with embedded fonts. Did you see anything like that?
> i don't know > why the other computer doesn't have the font though, its possible it was > deleted, Or that it was never installed there in the first place. What's the name of the font?
> but that still doesn't explain why it won't work when its embeded on > the slidewhow No, it doesn't. So another question: you mentioned that when you opened the show on the second computer, the font's ok in edit mode but not in slide show mode. Are you relying on what you see in the font dropdown on the formatting toolbar when you select some text? Probably not, but if so, don't. It only tells you what font it's SUPPOSED to be, not that the font's really available.
Instead, choose Format, Replace Fonts. Look at the icons to the left of the problem font(s). What do they look like?
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smd2010 - 18 Feb 2007 23:07 GMT the font was already on this computer that i created the presentation on, but all the fonts on this computer are fonts that have always been on the computer since i've had it . thats why i thought these fonts would be on other computers. the font i used was Times New Roman Special G1. I checked the box for embeded truetype fonts and i didn't see any error message. i viewed the presentation then on two different computer. on both of those computers. the Times New Roman Special G1 became either Windings or something similar while viewing the presentaion only. when i was editing, the font was fine. But this was not the only font problems i had with this. There were other fonts that were used a couple times that also didn't stay the same during presentation. To get around the problem i saved all the changing fonts as pictures, and reinserted them into the slide that way. However it bothers me that i would be unable to then re-edit those words and sentances. I'm not exactly sure what else i can do to get this to work.
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> > its a font that was already on the computer, so it should work, > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > PPTools: www.pptools.com > ================================================ Steve Rindsberg - 19 Feb 2007 15:49 GMT > the font was already on this computer that i created the presentation on, but > all the fonts on this computer are fonts that have always been on the > computer since i've had it . thats why i thought these fonts would be on > other computers. Not necessarily. And, case in point:
> the font i used was Times New Roman Special G1. I had to scare up a copy of that font once for somebody's project but it's never been on any PC I've owned. I think it comes with one of the MS reference programs or the like, but no matter. The bottom line is that it's highly UNlikely that it'll be on most PCs.
> I checked > the box for embeded truetype fonts and i didn't see any error message. OK, a good start.
> viewed the presentation then on two different computer. on both of those > computers. the Times New Roman Special G1 became either Windings or something > similar while viewing the presentaion only. when i was editing, the font was > fine. Again, please open the PPT on the computer where it's not working right, choose Format, Replace Fonts and tell us what icon appears to the left of each of the "problem" fonts. There are four possibiliities:
- A Printer icon (meaning it's a PostScript or printer resident font; not embeddable, and not likely to be on other PCs; probably won't see this because you'd have gotten an error message when you saved with font embedding enabled).
- A question mark icon (the needed font isn't present)
- A TT icon (the font's TrueType and it's available)
- A small TT icon (TrueType font, embedded in the document)
> But this was not the only font problems i had with this. There were > other fonts that were used a couple times that also didn't stay the same > during presentation. To get around the problem i saved all the changing > fonts as pictures, and reinserted them into the slide that way. However it > bothers me that i would be unable to then re-edit those words and sentances. > I'm not exactly sure what else i can do to get this to work. Probably all it'll take is sticking with fonts that are on all PCs, or at least on the PCs where you want to show the presentation.
As another test, save a copy of the presentation, then choose Format, Replace Fonts. Replace Times New Romain Special Gwhatsit with plain old Times New Roman (this *IS* on every Windows PC shipped since 1990 or so ... your odds are good).
Since you haven't mentioned what other fonts you've used, I can't suggest the best alternatives for them, but since this is just a test, try replacing all of them with either Times New Roman or Arial. Then see if the presentation behaves better on the other PC
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smd2010 - 19 Feb 2007 20:32 GMT I think that I have misinterpreted your first post. On the original computer that I created the presentation on, there was not an error message when I tried to save the presentation with the embedded font. I’m sorry, but I just now realized that you meant the second computer that I am trying to play the presentation on. When I tried to save the presentation on the second computer, I did get and error message. It listed the fonts that should have been embedded and told me that they were not installed. These fonts were: Abadi MT Condensed Light, Bradly Hand ITC, Times New Roman Special G1, Blackadder ITC, and Rockwell Extra Bold. Like you said, switching Times New Roman Special G1 to Times New Roman is fine and will work, but I don’t know what to do about these other fonts.
On the computer were the presentation is not working, I went to Format, Replace Fonts, like you said. I got a question mark for Abadi MT condensed Light and Bradly ITC, but the other three fonts were not even on the list.
You said that the best idea is to stick with fonts that are on all PCs. If embedding wont’ work, then I agree. But the problem with that is that the original computer that the PPT was created on obviously has extra fonts, and the second computer that the PPT doesn’t work well on, I know for sure has extra fonts. I also can’t just switch all the fonts to Times New Roman or Arial because I rely on some of the fonts to look a certain way. Neither Arial nor Times New Roman has the right look to its letters.
If embedding these fonts will not work like I would like it to, than the next thing I will try is to find a list of original fonts (that are on all computers), so that I know which fonts I can and can’t use.
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> > the font was already on this computer that i created the presentation on, but > > all the fonts on this computer are fonts that have always been on the [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > PPTools: www.pptools.com > ================================================ Austin Myers - 19 Feb 2007 20:40 GMT > If embedding these fonts will not work like I would like it to, than the > next thing I will try is to find a list of original fonts (that are on all > computers), so that I know which fonts I can and can't use. Sounds like a plan... :-)
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Steve Rindsberg - 20 Feb 2007 03:00 GMT > I think that I have misinterpreted your first post. On the original computer > that I created the presentation on, there was not an error message when I [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Roman Special G1 to Times New Roman is fine and will work, but I donât know > what to do about these other fonts.
> On the computer were the presentation is not working, I went to Format, > Replace Fonts, like you said. I got a question mark for Abadi MT condensed > Light and Bradly ITC, but the other three fonts were not even on the list. Even though they were on the Replace Fonts list on the computer where you created the presentation? Odd.
> You said that the best idea is to stick with fonts that are on all PCs. If > embedding wontâ work, then I agree. But the problem with that is that the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > next thing I will try is to find a list of original fonts (that are on all > computers), so that I know which fonts I can and canât use. The list varies by Windows version. Happens I created a list when I installed Win XP though; maybe that'll help:
Arial Comic Sans Courier New Franklin Gothic Medium and Italic Georgia Impact Kartika Lucida Sans Lucida Sans Unicode Lucida Console Microsoft Sans Serif Palatino Linotype Symbol Tahoma Times New Roman Trebuchet Verdana Vrinda Webdings Wingdings
and some other misc. fonts that don't include the normal character set we use for English, so we'll ignore 'em.
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smd2010 - 19 Feb 2007 21:49 GMT I found this article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314960
This is depressing as there are only 7 fonts that are on ALL computers. :-( But its ok, i'm gonna try a few more things, and if it doesn't work I'll stick to my "Save-as-Picture Method."
Thank you so much for all the help thats being given to me. I'm sorry if i am difficult to work with. I reread all the posts and realized there were somethings I skipped, didn't read, and didn't answer. I'm sorry about that. This PowerPoint presentation is the biggest PowerPoint Project I've ever done and its fun and difficult all at the same time. I'm trying to get it perfect and its hard, but, with all this help, I think I can do it.
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Steve Rindsberg - 20 Feb 2007 03:00 GMT > This is depressing as there are only 7 fonts that are on ALL computers. :-( Ugly, isn't it?
> Thank you so much for all the help thats being given to me. I'm sorry if i > am difficult to work with. I reread all the posts and realized there were > somethings I skipped, didn't read, and didn't answer. I'm sorry about that. No problem ... we live, we learn. Keep it in mind for next time and we all profit by it. <g>
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