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MS Office Forum / General PowerPoint Questions / April 2007Are there benefits for and advanced user to using Placeholders?
Hello, I am part of a fulltime Presentation Graphics team using PowerPoint as one of our core tools. To date we have always applied objects to placeholders 90%+ of the time. We are now asking the question should we? Other than align/snap to each other are there benefits to doing this or pitfalls to not? I have searched the web and could not find an answer to this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated Anthony Placeholders follow the 'slide master' (and the content inside them appears in the outline). Manually added text boxes do not follow the slide master. (the content does not appear in the outline). Using the slide master for format things saves a lot of time cheers TAJ Simmons microsoft powerpoint mvp awesome - powerpoint backgrounds, http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com free powerpoint templates, tutorials, hints, tips and more... > Hello, I am part of a fulltime Presentation Graphics team using > PowerPoint [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > pitfalls to not? I have searched the web and could not find an answer to > this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated This is a very interesting question. Are you really talking about objects (charts, diagrams, tables, etc.), or are you really just talking about text?  SignatureEcho [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/ > Hello, I am part of a fulltime Presentation Graphics team using > PowerPoint [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > pitfalls to not? I have searched the web and could not find an answer to > this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated Hi, sorry for the delay (Easter break etc). Our team has consistently used placeholders for all objects - graphs, pictures, tables, text, visio objects etc. However two new members have joined and have never used them and are challenging the prevailing wisdom, to which we do not have a convincing answer as to why we should use them. Thanks for your help Anthony > This is a very interesting question. Are you really talking about objects > (charts, diagrams, tables, etc.), or are you really just talking about text? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > pitfalls to not? I have searched the web and could not find an answer to > > this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated Well, I would absolutely use them for text, but I wouldn't use them for tables and graphs and pictures and other such objects. Basically, when you reapply a slide layout, the stuff in the placeholder gets "reformatted" back to match the slide layout. I find that usually I've positioned and sized tables/graphs/pix/etc. where I want them, and I don't usually want them to move if I reapply the slide layout. (The table/graph/pix/etc. placeholders derive their size and position from the main text placeholder on the slide master.) But I *do* usually want the text to have its default formatting reapplied when I apply/reapply a slide layout. That's why I usually use the "title only" layout instead of, say, the "title and chart" layout if I'm making a chart slide. So I kinda think you're both right. :-) However, there is something to be said for consistency throughout a production shop, regardless of which way you choose to go. SignatureEcho [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/ > Hi, sorry for the delay (Easter break etc). > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> > to >> > this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated Thanks so much for your feedback, I do appreciate it and it has helped. Anthony > Well, I would absolutely use them for text, but I wouldn't use them for > tables and graphs and pictures and other such objects. [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > >> > to > >> > this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated You're welcome, and I'm glad to hear it. SignatureEcho [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/ > Thanks so much for your feedback, I do appreciate it and it has helped. > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] >> >> > to >> >> > this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated > Hello, I am part of a fulltime Presentation Graphics team using PowerPoint > as one of our core tools. To date we have always applied objects to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > pitfalls to not? I have searched the web and could not find an answer to > this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated Adding pictures as objects or into placeholders has its drawbacks. Otherwise, it doesn't seem to make a great deal of difference (ie, for charts and so on). If they're in placeholders, you can somewhat control the size/position/formatting of all of them at once by changing the master. Otherwise, I can't think of any big "vantages", ad- or dis- ;-) Someone will surely be along shortly to slap some sense into me though. ----------------------------------------- Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================ Hello, I guess, that for using AUTOSHAPES and TEXTBOXES is only reasonable way to COPY body placeholder (for example from new plain slide) and then change it (draw - change autoshape + add color line), because it has master bullet style. I do not recommend useing placeholders at all, becouse they automaticaly change your object. Jan Placeholders are good because it allows you to change the slide designs and conform to the specifications of the new slide designs like size, position, font spec, color schemes, etc. If the text is not in placeholder, it does not follow most of the specs laid in the slide design. Exception being the likes of color schemes that you can still use in textboxes. Typically, your slide designs change in new presentations and when you copy-paste slides from older presentations, you want those slides to conform to the slide designs of your new presentation. This is where having your texts and objects in placeholders help as the specifications are inherited automatically. If your presentation never needs a slide design change ever or you don't ever copy-paste slides to create new presentations with a slide design different from your other presentations, then you can ignore placeholders. - Chirag PowerShow - View multiple PowerPoint slide shows simultaneously http://officeone.mvps.org/powershow/powershow.html > Hello, I am part of a fulltime Presentation Graphics team using > PowerPoint [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > pitfalls to not? I have searched the web and could not find an answer to > this. Any information or opinion offered is greatly appreciated |
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