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JanAdam - 05 Jul 2007 19:32 GMT Suppose I am using PPT to make a drawing to insert it into Word. I would like to be able to crop and size the drawing I made before exporting. Say, my drawing is not filling the whole slide and has a different aspect ratio. How to go about it? In Adobe Illustrator or PhotoShop, one can select a part of the picture and save only the selection. Is anything similar available in PPT? Without going through another software, that is.
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Tom Conrad - 05 Jul 2007 20:24 GMT T Conrad replied:
Jan,
The powerpoint picture toolbar has some rudimentary photo/picture editing tools. These tools are also available in Word. Crop, brighten, compress, contrast, etc.
MS Office, has several distinctions between drawings and pictures. A picture is a unified object that is in one of several image formats (.jpg,.png, ,bmp, ,tif). Pictures can be cropped, resized, brightened, etc., drawing objects cannot be cropped... etc.
A drawing, i.e., is usually composed of a series of objects created using MS-DRAW autoshapes (rectangels, lines, circles, freeform, etc.) The objects may be grouped or ungrouped. When these objects are pasted into Word, the default paste method is MS Office Draw objects. Generally, a drawing object in Word behaves exactly like a drawing object in powerpoint. (Exception, if your word options are set to use the drawing canvas, then the drawing objects will insert to a drawing canvas. The canvas functions as a container for all of the other drawing objects.)
To get a croppable drawing (image) In powerpoint, select the drawing objects that make-up your picture. If you want the whole slide select all. Group the objects into a single object. You must paste the selection into word or powerpoint as an some form of image (.jpg, png, enhanced metafile, .bmp), using the paste special command (edit menu, paste special). When you paste the image the background may change. If you did not have a colored background, then the total background may change to black.
Since an image pasted into word requires alignment information, I personally find it easier to perform a paste special into powerpoint, make my adjustments to the picture, and then select, copy and paste the image into word. Once the picture is in word, I then perform the necessary alignments, sizing etc.
Tom C
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> Suppose I am using PPT to make a drawing to insert it into Word. I would > like to be able to crop and size the drawing I made before exporting. Say, my [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > thanks, JanAdam - 05 Jul 2007 21:10 GMT Tom,
Thanks a lot. You did say something that has bothered me for quite a while, namely changing background color while special pasting line drawing into Word. To be honest, I have never understood this and still do not.
I am a scientist. I prefer to make simple drawings in PPT as I am more familiar with it as with Adobe programs, which may appeal more to an artist. However, I have to do two things: place the drawing into a Word document AND save it as a separate file for future printing (assume the final product is a book or a journal article). Thus, I need to make all my drawings into, say, 3 in wide (the height may vary), 300 dpi, save it as jpeg and then insert it as a picture from a file. Thus, my question was if I can do the sizing and cropping from within PPT 2003.
With your answer I have tried the paste special option, just for the fun of it, and sure enough I got a totally black rectangle pasted into my Word document. I have changed the background to white in ppt to no avail. I remember fighting this battle before. Pasting the drawing into a number of other programs resulted in the same black background. I ended up redoing my drawings in Illustrator. But then, try to fill an object with a simple pattern, say dashed. You would have to make it yourself as it only has very fancy stuff.
Sorry for my venting off, but it is a bit frustrating :-(
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> T Conrad replied: > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > > > thanks, Michael Koerner - 05 Jul 2007 21:26 GMT PowerPoint is not really designed for picture editing. But, if you feel comfortable using it in this manner, then you might want to look here to ensure your 300dpi images. Improve PowerPoint's GIF, BMP, PNG, JPG export resolution http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00052.htm
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> Tom, > [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] >> > >> > thanks, JanAdam - 05 Jul 2007 21:54 GMT Many thanks Michael. It should do it.
Any comments on black background while pasting special, anybody?
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> PowerPoint is not really designed for picture editing. But, if you feel > comfortable using it in this manner, then you might want to look here to [quoted text clipped - 105 lines] > >> > > >> > thanks, Echo S - 05 Jul 2007 22:33 GMT I suspect you're pasting as an image type that doesn't support transparency. JPGs, for example, do not. Try pasting special as PNG.
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> Many thanks Michael. It should do it. > [quoted text clipped - 129 lines] >> >> > >> >> > thanks, Tom Conrad - 05 Jul 2007 23:42 GMT Jan,
My understanding of this behavior, is that essentially, when a powerpoint (word) grouped drawing object is pasted as an image, the background of the grouped object is read as black. I'm certain it has something to do with a high bit versus a low bit during the conversion process.
I ignore it. My work around is to use place a rectangle [white fill (or other color) /no borders] behind the drawing. The background fill color should not match the color fill or border colors of any of the selected objects (Gray 10% is useful).
For example, lets start with 3 rectangles connected by connector arrows. When I select these multiple objects and then group them, the dimensions of the grouped object are 4"x5". If I try to color fill, the grouped object, I will fill the 4"x5", but I will also fill the boundaries of the rectangle. By placing and aligning a rectangle of 4"x5" behind the grouped object I can fill the background object with any color. I ungroup my original drawing object and then regroup it with the background to create a single group.
I get a color filled background, that I can use the transparancey tool on and I don't get a black background.
Tom C
> Tom, > [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > > > > > thanks, Tom Conrad - 06 Jul 2007 00:00 GMT Jan,
I've had to resort to using powerpoint or word draw, to create the original draft copies of line drawings, too. (My company wil only pop for one adobe license for the graphics editor.) After creating the drafts we too go through the conversion process to jpg via adobe illustrator, for the final copy.
A sidebar discussion regarding the conversion of ppt drawings to jpg via adobe illustrator. I recently encountered a unicode font issue doing conversions of ppt drawings directly from ppt format to illustrator. We had illustrator 10, a 2000-2001 product and were converting a ppt 2003 drawing. The IT dept had recently installed foreign language support, and thus unicode font support. PPT 2003 drawing objects use unicode fonts as the default font for empty (text free) autoshapes. When we tried to convert the drawings, my editor lost an afternoon's work because the older illustrator could not understand the newer (2003) unicode fonts. oops! The work around was to ensure that every autoshape had at least 3 text characters in it, in order to force, ppt to use the default english font. We used blank spaces. The conversion was then error free. The final solution was to upgrade adobe.
> Tom, > [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > > > > > > thanks,
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