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MS Office Forum / General PowerPoint Questions / November 2007Charts in 2007 do not hold the theme colors
I created about 2 dozen charts for a client, using a custom theme I created. When I sent it to a colleague for more data input, the charts changed color when opened for editing. They looked fine until double clicked. Then, they took on one of the standard, built-in color themes...not the new custom theme I set up. The slides themselves maintain the theme and the correct colors, but the charts do not. When the file was sent back to me, I too, could not get the theme colors back to the charts. I also discovered that double clicking on the charts and selecting the theme again under "Page Layout" fixed this issue only temporarily...until the chart was openeded again. Any permanent solution for this?  Signaturebh529 >I created about 2 dozen charts for a client, using a custom theme I >created. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > chart > was openeded again. Any permanent solution for this? When creating your color scheme, did you give it a name? As long as you don't change the "Custom color 1" entry at the bottom of the edit theme color dialog box, the colors will not travel correctly. If you need to co-operate frequently using the same (corporate) colors, you should install the theme colors (it is an XML file) on your colleagues computer, too. Best regards, Ute SignatureUte Simon Microsoft PowerPoint MVP Team und PowerPoint-User-Team Schon gesehen? www.ppt-user.de/blogger und www.ppt-tv.de Yes, I did change the custom color name...and then assumed that they would travel with the custom Theme...but alas, that is not the case. I work for a company with 50+ people, and I am in charge of setting up client templates in PPT that analysts will then use to create the remainder of the charts in a report. I guess I will have to send the color scheme file to each person for each client template then? It seems like this is a step backwards for PowerPoint! Signaturebh529 > >I created about 2 dozen charts for a client, using a custom theme I > >created. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Best regards, > Ute The custom theme color set you created should travel with the THMX or POTX file. You can't add more than one set of custom colors to a theme without editing the THMX's XML, though. (They'll show up on your system, but you have to manually add them to the XML in order for more than one color set to travel with the theme.) The charts changing colors when being opened for editing...are the charts in 2003 format? Is the file in compatibility mode? (You shouldn't have to double-click charts to edit them in PPT 2007.) How did you insert the charts? I don't have a "page layout" option here when I use Insert | Chart. So I think I'd like to have exact repro steps so I can attempt to repro the problem here. Otherwise, we're just guessing at what you did to get the charts based on your custom theme and onto the slide. SignatureEcho [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com What's new in PowerPoint 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm (New!) The PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/2qzlpl Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/index.html > Yes, I did change the custom color name...and then assumed that they would > travel with the custom Theme...but alas, that is not the case. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> Best regards, >> Ute The charts were created in 2007, but saved in compatibility mode. I inserted the charts by going to Insert/chart and then formatting it the way I wanted (and then saving the first bar chart as a chart template since I had more of the same to create). After that I simply inserted the charts and formatted by selecting the chart template. There was only one Color Theme associated with the Design Theme in the file. Now here's the thing... because it's in compatibility mode, I do need to double click on the charts. It originally gave me a choice to "Convert" it to 2007 or "Edit Existing". I have been selecting "Edit Existing" since I have a colleague working on this file with 2003... but if I select "Convert", the colors stay correct. Unfortunately, after I got it back from my colleague, it no longer gives me the "Convert" option... I must still double click to open the file, but it automatically changes color. Could it be because he made changes and then saved it with 2003? Signaturebh529 > The custom theme color set you created should travel with the THMX or POTX > file. You can't add more than one set of custom colors to a theme without [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > >> Best regards, > >> Ute Charts in PPT 2003 are entirely different than those in 2007. 2003 charts don't know theme color schemes from Adam, and their handling of colors is completely different than 2007 charts. This is why they don't maintain the colors from the 2007 theme color scheme. Basically, you're working with 2003 charts, and they behave accordingly. And yes, I believe the reason you no longer have a "convert" option is because your colleague made changes and saved as 2003. Also, just so you know, chart templates in PPT 2007 use "absolute" formatting -- they don't respond to theme or color scheme changes. In other words, if you use Insert | Chart and choose a chart template to add a chart to a file that has a different theme or color scheme, the chart will still look like the original chart the template was based on. SignatureEcho [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com What's new in PowerPoint 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm (New!) The PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/2qzlpl Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/index.html > The charts were created in 2007, but saved in compatibility mode. I > inserted [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] >> >> Best regards, >> >> Ute Thank you so much for your input. My company is 25% 2007, and 75% 2003, which makes for some perplexing compatibility issues! I am doing what I can to just figure out what I should and shouldn't do to achieve the best result in both versions. Thanks again for all of your help! BTW... the chart template was created using the correct color theme. Signaturebh529 > Charts in PPT 2003 are entirely different than those in 2007. 2003 charts > don't know theme color schemes from Adam, and their handling of colors is [quoted text clipped - 110 lines] > >> >> Best regards, > >> >> Ute > Thank you so much for your input. My company is 25% 2007, and 75% 2003, > which [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks again for all of your help! You're welcome. The mix can make it difficult, especially where charts are involved. > BTW... the chart template was created using the correct color theme. That's good. Just wanted to make sure you were aware that the chart templates aren't truly "theme-able" in case it crops up in future. I know they don't work as I had expected and hoped they would.... SignatureEcho [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com What's new in PowerPoint 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm (New!) The PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/2qzlpl Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/powerpointannoy/index.html |
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