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Arie - 10 Nov 2007 22:05 GMT
I specify line weights less than 0.75 that are reflected on my screen.
However, the print version makes the lines thicker.. at least 0.75 wide. An
updated print driver did not repair this problem.
I am using Powerpoint 2007 and VISTA (recently upgraded from 2000 and XP
Pro) Any ideas?
TAJ Simmons - 12 Nov 2007 00:21 GMT
Arie,

If it was me I'd make a test page with the line weights in various settings
around the 0.75 mark.

View them on screen and print them out. There should be a setting that you
are happy with.

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>I specify line weights less than 0.75 that are reflected on my screen.
> However, the print version makes the lines thicker.. at least 0.75 wide.
> An
> updated print driver did not repair this problem.
> I am using Powerpoint 2007 and VISTA (recently upgraded from 2000 and XP
> Pro) Any ideas?
Arie - 12 Nov 2007 00:35 GMT
Thanks TAJ. I did try that already and found the same problem. I may have to
start trying different colours to change the appearance of the line weight.
In the old Powerpoint, this was never necessary. I use the program for
drawing and not for presentations. I find that the 2007 program updates
ignore the use of the program for drawing. I may need to revert back to
Autocad.

> Arie,
>
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> > I am using Powerpoint 2007 and VISTA (recently upgraded from 2000 and XP
> > Pro) Any ideas?
Zippy - 03 Dec 2007 18:28 GMT
PowerPoint 2007 is definitely printing thin lines thicker than in PowerPoint
2003.
All lines less than 1 point in thickness will still print the same as a 1
point thickness line.

If you take the .ppt file and print it from PowerPoint 2003, then the lines
will print the appropraite thickness.

This looks like a bug in PowerPoint 2007, since I cannot find a print
setting or PowerPoint 2007 option that resolves this.

Please Help Microsoft?
Steve Rindsberg - 04 Dec 2007 02:08 GMT
> PowerPoint 2007 is definitely printing thin lines thicker than in PowerPoint
> 2003.
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> This looks like a bug in PowerPoint 2007, since I cannot find a print
> setting or PowerPoint 2007 option that resolves this.

Thanks for bringing this up (this isn't the first time, is it?).
You're right, it's a bug, I've replicated it to both a printer driver and to
Microsoft's own PDF export add-in.

I've reported it to MS for you.

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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ:  www.pptfaq.com
PPTools:  www.pptools.com
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Zippy - 05 Dec 2007 18:30 GMT
Thanks Steve.  I hope it will do some good towards a solution by reporting
it.  Before I saw your reply I opened a case with MS Premier.  I did have the
technician admit that this was a bonafide problem with PowerPoint 2007.

I've got my fingers crossed.
Steve Rindsberg - 06 Dec 2007 15:01 GMT
> Thanks Steve.  I hope it will do some good towards a solution by reporting
> it.  Before I saw your reply I opened a case with MS Premier.  I did have the
> technician admit that this was a bonafide problem with PowerPoint 2007.
>
> I've got my fingers crossed.

It seems that SP1 may ship within the week:
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=1007

We'll know soon enough, I guess.

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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ:  www.pptfaq.com
PPTools:  www.pptools.com
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Zippy - 06 Dec 2007 15:19 GMT
Steve,
Thanks for the feedback.

The technician at Microsoft says he tested the Beta of Office 2007 SP1 to
see if it would have a fix for this problem and it doesn't.  : (

The tech has called me a couple times and seems interested in the "impact"
this bug is having on business.  Well, it's not a positive impact.  If you
don't mind presentations with linework being thick lines where you want thin
and having your presentations looking dorky instead of sharp, then it's not a
problem.

If it's a bonafide problem (it is), and the previous version did not have
this problem, then they should work on a solution expeditiosly, period.

Zippy
The support guy that's running from the people with torches and pitch forks.
Steve Rindsberg - 06 Dec 2007 16:42 GMT
> The technician at Microsoft says he tested the Beta of Office 2007 SP1 to
> see if it would have a fix for this problem and it doesn't.  : (
>
> The tech has called me a couple times and seems interested in the "impact"
> this bug is having on business.  

It may seem an odd question, but it sorta means you've got their attention.
You've gotten past "It's not happening here, go away" and now you're at "Oh,
yeah, I see what you mean.  But is this causing enough pain to enough users to
make it worth spending resources on fixing this problem or should we spend 'em
somewhere else?"

Anything you can do to quantify the problem will help get it fixed.

> If it's a bonafide problem (it is), and the previous version did not have
> this problem,

2003 doesn't have the problem.  I checked.

> Zippy
> The support guy that's running from the people with torches and pitch forks.

Run faster.  Toss small snacks over your shoulder to distract them.

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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ:  www.pptfaq.com
PPTools:  www.pptools.com
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Brian Reilly, MVP - 07 Dec 2007 13:49 GMT
Steve, Since you have isolated this one too, and I haven't had time
to, would the setting Print at Printer Resolution setting (or whatever
it's called), help the issue? I doubt it from your comments but just
thought I'd bring it up if you, not being an elephant, somehow forgot
that one.

Brian Reilly, MVP

>> PowerPoint 2007 is definitely printing thin lines thicker than in PowerPoint
>> 2003.
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>PPTools:  www.pptools.com
>================================================
Enric Mañas - 07 Dec 2007 16:49 GMT
> I'd bring it up if you, not being an elephant, somehow forgot that one.

Dear Elephas,

Mammuthus is right...

There is no difference using HQ or no HQ...

Very cordialmente

Enric
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Enric Mañas [MS MVP Office-PowerPoint]

> Steve, Since you have isolated this one too, and I haven't had time
> to, would the setting Print at Printer Resolution setting (or whatever
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>>PPTools:  www.pptools.com
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Steve Rindsberg - 07 Dec 2007 17:43 GMT
A very good question.

Just checked that (and turning High Quality on/off in the print dialog too).
No joy.

But don't feel bad.  Just because the answer was lousy doesn't mean it's not still
a very good question.

> Steve, Since you have isolated this one too, and I haven't had time
> to, would the setting Print at Printer Resolution setting (or whatever
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> >PPTools:  www.pptools.com
> >================================================

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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ:  www.pptfaq.com
PPTools:  www.pptools.com
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