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MS Office Forum / General PowerPoint Questions / March 2008PowerPoint 2007 very slow
I have been having problems with PowerPoint 2007 being very slow. It takes forever to jump from slide to slide, and it is next to impossible to edit text. I'm running PPT2007 on a Vista Business Laptop with 2GB of RAM, ample hdd space, and the powerpoint file is about 12MB in size with about 30 slides. I don't have anti-virus running, I do have a default HP LaserJet 4 local printer driver installed (no printer though), and this is happening with all of my PPT files. I did save this one to PPTX and did a "compress photos" to no avail. Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better? Hi Steveho See if playing with the graphics hardware acceleration helps: How to set graphics hardware acceleration back http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.htm Lucy  SignatureLucy Thomson PowerPoint MVP MOS Master Instructor www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au >I have been having problems with PowerPoint 2007 being very slow. It takes > forever to jump from slide to slide, and it is next to impossible to edit [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better? As well as what Lucy said: Do you have SP1 installed? Also some printer drivers can cause this even when there is a default driver set locally, it might be worth trying something else as the default SignatureAmazing PPT Hints, Tips and Tutorials http://www.PPTAlchemy.co.uk http://www.technologytrish.co.uk email john AT technologytrish.co.uk > I have been having problems with PowerPoint 2007 being very slow. It takes > forever to jump from slide to slide, and it is next to impossible to edit [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better? I did turn on the hardware acceleration under powerpoint. I also did have a different printer driver, the Canon ir5000, as my default, then added the LaserJet4 as a default for a troubleshooting step. It has not helped, so I will probably remove the LaserJet4 (since i dont have this printer anyway). This happens with every power point file, but all my power point files were created in ppt2003. I dont want to recreate them all under ppt2007 as even creating a new ppt2007 is incredibly slow. Any other suggestions? Steve > As well as what Lucy said: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > > Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better? Try Windows hardware acceleration instead of PowerPoint's. Here are instrux: http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.htm Apologies if that's what you were referring to doing already. SignatureEcho [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx >I did turn on the hardware acceleration under powerpoint. I also did have a > different printer driver, the Canon ir5000, as my default, then added the [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >> > >> > Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better? Thanks Echo S- I already have windows hardware acceleration to the maximum performance. BTW I wish those instructions on that FAQ would list Vista as well... Steve > Try Windows hardware acceleration instead of PowerPoint's. Here are instrux: > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > >> > > >> > Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better? Actually, I turned it up and down and everything in between. It just is very slow. This is moving from character to character takes about 2-3 seconds. Typing a word will show up 5 seconds later. Steve > Thanks Echo S- I already have windows hardware acceleration to the maximum > performance. BTW I wish those instructions on that FAQ would list Vista as [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > >> > > > >> > Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better? I'd check for an updated 'graphics card driver'... from either www.ati.com or www.nvidia.com or who ever made you card. cheers TAJ Simmons Microsoft Powerpoint MVP awesome - powerpoint templates, http://www.awesomebackgrounds.com powerpoint backgrounds, free samples, ppt tutorials... > Actually, I turned it up and down and everything in between. It just is > very [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] >> > >> > >> > >> > Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better? Wow, I don't know. Here's some information on PPT gets the slows, but it's not been updated for PPT 2007. Maybe the things here are worth trying, though. PowerPoint gets the SLOWS http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00114.htm Generally, with 2007, it's the printer driver thing. Are the printer drivers you installed actually installed on your computer, and not on a network drive? You know, you might also try running the Office Diagnostics. It's under Office Button | PPT Options | Resources. I think you mentioned antivirus software somewhere in here. You disabled it as a test, right? Is it Norton? If so, you need to disable the Office plug-in specifically. Norton Anti-Virus and Office http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00387.htm SignatureEcho [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx > Actually, I turned it up and down and everything in between. It just is > very [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] >> > >> > >> > >> > Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better? > Thanks Echo S- I already have windows hardware acceleration to the maximum > performance. BTW I wish those instructions on that FAQ would list Vista as > well... Your wish is our comm...uh... suggestion. Done. At least partially. How to set graphics hardware acceleration back http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00129.htm > Steve > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > >> > > > >> > Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better? ----------------------------------------- Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================ Just updated to the latest driver from ATI for my computer. It's a Dell Inspiron 6400 with x1300 graphics. Didn't help at all. Summary of things I've tried: 1. new graphics driver 2. loaded HP LJ4 printer and set to default 3. use hardware acceleration- all settings 4. ppt use hardware acceleration 5. ppt resolution to 640x480 (although that wouldn't change the editing speed) 6. Changed back to my default printer iR5000 7. loaded AV and AS software and scanned. Unloaded AV/AS software. 8. Compress Photos 9. Save as pptx My machine: Dell 6400 Inspiron Laptop 1. 1.83Ghz core 2 duo 2. 2GB RAM 3. ATI x1300 discrete graphics 4. 1680x1050 screen 5. 80GB samsung HDD 6. Vista Business 7. Usually No anti-virus, no anti-spam software. Problem file is 12MB in size, and originally composed in PPT2003. Problem is that text is very slow to edit meaning that arrowing from character to character takes 2-3 seconds each. Also changing from slide to slide takes 10-15 seconds or so. Other files are better than this particular one, but still slow. My solution: recreate the powerpoint file from scratch under ppt2007. If it gets slow, i'll let you know Steve > > Thanks Echo S- I already have windows hardware acceleration to the maximum > > performance. BTW I wish those instructions on that FAQ would list Vista as [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > PPTools: www.pptools.com > ================================================ OK. I was creating a new power point 2007 presentation. It went fine for a while. I added about 15 slides with just some text. Then I went back and added a couple photos. Small photos. 4 640x480 photos onto 1 slide and PowerPoint 2007 became unusable. So incredibly slow. I'm trying to resize the photos to make them all fit on 1 slide with some text below each photo. It's impossible to resize because powerpoint doesn't respond for 5 seconds when dragging the mouse. The total powerpoint file size right now is 459k. Each of the photos that I inserted were about 60k apiece. If I jump to another slide that has only text on it, ppt is ok. When I go back to that slide with 4 photos, it takes about 15 seconds to update the display, then about 5 sec to select a photo, and 5 sec to do anything to a photo. So it seems that PPT has a problem with photos. I've changed the view in ppt to 100% so it shouldn't be a scaling problem. I've compressed the photos, but they were small to begin with. It's not an issue of an older ppt file because this was created in ppt2007. it's not a file size issue. I'm going to try another printer driver. Any other thoughts? It's driving me crazy. Steve > I have been having problems with PowerPoint 2007 being very slow. It takes > forever to jump from slide to slide, and it is next to impossible to edit [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better? No joy yet, but you deserve some for all the good detective work. What about these photos? What's the source, what format are they in? TIFFs, for example, are instantly suspect, and so are some other image formats once Photoshop has touched them. When in doubt, I sometimes "clean" images by opening them in an old, old copy of PaintShop Pro and saving as PNG or JPG; running them through IrfanView should work about the same (and it's available now, free, www.irfranview.com) > OK. I was creating a new power point 2007 presentation. It went fine for a > while. I added about 15 slides with just some text. Then I went back and [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > > > Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better? ----------------------------------------- Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================ Hi Steve If you want you can send me the file & I'll see if it gets the slows on my laptop - at least we could narrow it down to pc specific/file specific. lucy at aneasiertomorrow dot com dot au - make the obvious changes :-) Lucy SignatureLucy Thomson PowerPoint MVP MOS Master Instructor www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au > OK. I was creating a new power point 2007 presentation. It went fine for a > while. I added about 15 slides with just some text. Then I went back and [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> >> Anyone know how I can get PPT2007 to be better? I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the problem. Per Steve Rindsberg, I took all JPG files out of powerpoint. It was still very slow. I deleted the master slide header and now it runs fine, but looks kind of boring, especially since this is a photography training class file. It kind of needs photos. So I took the header.jpg (only 38kb in size), brought it into photoshop and saved it as a png. Dragged that into PPT and it works fine. Now I played with the options on saving the jpg file in photoshop. Turns out that if I turn off the option to "embed ICC Profiles" from within photoshop, the jpg file works fine in PPT. This option is turned on by default when saving files in Photoshop (I have photoshop cs2). Now I re-saved all the jpg photos and dropped them back into powerpoint, and powerpoint still retains its speed. PROBLEM SOLVED. Thanks to Lucy, John, Steve, Echo for all your suggestions. Feel free to put this solution on your websites, and someone, Please pass this on to microsoft as a bug. There should be no reason that ICC profiles ruins powerpoint performance. Thanks to ALL! Steve Hong Minneapolis, MN By the way, I actually recreated the whole shebang in Impress and that worked fine. I am going to go back to powerpoint, though, because I wasn't Impressed with Impress;) PPT is so much better, and easier, and now, just as fast Steve That's great news, Steve! Thanks for posting back with your solution. One issue I see -- dragging your files into PPT isn't a good idea. It creates OLE objects -- so you can double-click the file and edit it in Photoshop within PPT. That adds a lot of overhead, and I suspect it contributed to the slows. Although, you know, I'm not sure drag-n-drop works that way anymore in PPT 2007, so take that with a grain of salt. I'll try to test that later today. But man, the color profile stuff affecting it is extremely interesting as well! Nice detective work! SignatureEcho [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx > I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the > problem. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Steve Hong > Minneapolis, MN Thanks for the feedback on this and the solution, Steve. One other suggestion ... never drag images into PPT. Instead, save them as image files then use Insert, Picture, From File to insert them. > I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the problem. > Per Steve Rindsberg, I took all JPG files out of powerpoint. It was still [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Steve Hong > Minneapolis, MN ----------------------------------------- Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================ Steve- I couldn't find a difference between dragging a photo into ppt2007 and inserting an image. I tried it both ways on a brand new document, and everything I could find within ppt seemed to be the same. Either way, I could not double-click to edit the image. Either way, right-click "change picture" brought up the same dialog box (a file/directory browser). I could apply the same options, and had the same fields available. This is dragging and dropping from an explorer window. I also dragged and dropped a photo from Internet Explorer to PPT and found no difference. Can you explain further why one shouldn't drag and drop into PPT? As I mentioned... > One issue I see -- dragging your files into PPT isn't a good idea. It > creates OLE objects -- so you can double-click the file and edit it in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Although, you know, I'm not sure drag-n-drop works that way anymore in PPT > 2007, so take that with a grain of salt. SignatureEcho [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx > Steve- > I couldn't find a difference between dragging a photo into ppt2007 and [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Can you explain further why one shouldn't drag and drop into PPT? > Steve- > I couldn't find a difference between dragging a photo into ppt2007 and > inserting an image. I tried it both ways on a brand new document, and > everything I could find within ppt seemed to be the same. It'll depend on where you're dragging it from and certain system settings. In some cases it's the same as inserting, but in others it can create an OLE object instead of an inserted picture. OLE objects behave differently (sometimes in desirable ways, sometimes not, depending on your desires <g>) If you want the image to remain "connected" to the app that created it so you can doubleclick the image and launch the originating app, the OLE is your friend. If you want small files, need to maintain full compatibility with systems that don't have the originating app and want inserted pictures to behave like inserted pictures in PPT, OLE is not your friend. > Either way, I could not double-click to edit the image. Sounds like your system settings aren't causing an OLE object to be created then. > Either way, > right-click "change picture" brought up the same dialog box (a file/directory [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Can you explain further why one shouldn't drag and drop into PPT? ----------------------------------------- Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================ I'll get to the solution in a minute. Here's what I did to solve the problem. Per Steve Rindsberg, I took all JPG files out of powerpoint. It was still very slow. I deleted the master slide header and now it runs fine, but looks kind of boring, especially since this is a photography training class file. It kind of needs photos. So I took the header.jpg (only 38kb in size), brought it into photoshop and saved it as a png. Dragged that into PPT and it works fine. Now I played with the options on saving the jpg file in photoshop. Turns out that if I turn off the option to "embed ICC Profiles" from within photoshop, the jpg file works fine in PPT. This option is turned on by default when saving files in Photoshop (I have photoshop cs2). Now I re-saved all the jpg photos and dropped them back into powerpoint, and powerpoint still retains its speed. PROBLEM SOLVED. Thanks to Lucy, John, Steve, Echo for all your suggestions. Feel free to put this solution on your websites, and someone, Please pass this on to microsoft as a bug. There should be no reason that ICC profiles ruins powerpoint performance. Thanks to ALL! Steve Hong Minneapolis, MN
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