Inserting SWF to play FLV in Powerpoint

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D1g1tal_0ne - 11 Mar 2008 20:49 GMT

Ok, so ive got a major problem. For the last few months my company has been
using FLV files streamed through a SWF which is inserted into powerpoint with
no problems. Now out of the blue everything is broken. I can open a new
powerpoint and insert the activeX control just fine, preview it and it works.
AS SOON as i save it and re open it i get a blank slide. Every now and then
it will play but without the playback controls. The outcome is different
almost every time which is odd for computers. Has anyone ever experienced
this or can help me in any way? Thanks.

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Echo S - 11 Mar 2008 23:32 GMT

I may be wrong, but I think that the latest Flash control released by Adobe
causes the problems. I suspect that's also why you see difrferent behavior
on different systems -- one system has a different Flash control than
another. You might try downloading and installing an older control and see
if that works.

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> Ok, so ive got a major problem. For the last few months my company has
> been
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> almost every time which is odd for computers. Has anyone ever experienced
> this or can help me in any way? Thanks.

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Carmen Ferrara - 12 Mar 2008 01:05 GMT

On Mar 11, 6:32 pm, "Echo S" <msnewsgro...@echosvoiceUGHSPAM.com>
wrote:

> I may be wrong, but I think that the latest Flash control released by Adobe
> causes the problems. I suspect that's also why you see difrferent behavior
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> > almost every time which is odd for computers. Has anyone ever experienced
> > this or can help me in any way? Thanks.

Have you considered converting the flv files to Windows Media -
PowerPoint is less likely to have issues embedding Windows Media
content? Then you won't have to worry about Flash ocx version
incompatibilities. Just a thought.

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D1g1tal_0ne - 12 Mar 2008 15:05 GMT

We are actually moving from WMV's to FLV's because of the smaller file sizes
and higher quality video.

> On Mar 11, 6:32 pm, "Echo S" <msnewsgro...@echosvoiceUGHSPAM.com>
> wrote:
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Carmen Ferrara - 12 Mar 2008 15:19 GMT

On Mar 12, 10:05 am, D1g1tal_0ne
<D1g1tal...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> We are actually moving from WMV's to FLV's because of the smaller file sizes
> and higher quality video.
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> > iPresent Presio
> >http://www.ipresent.net

That's interesting. I think Flash has caught up with Windows Media in
terms of file size and quality with the latest On2 VP6 codec. But,
playback requires Flash 8 player or greater. Windows Media 9 codecs
and a above still do a great job in terms quality and file size
IMHO.

Don't get me wrong - moving to FLVs for web video is a great idea as
the near ubiquitous playback across platforms is a strong argument.
However, in controlled environments (like embedding in a PPT or across
desktops in an enterprise) Windows Media is still a great choice.

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D1g1tal_0ne - 12 Mar 2008 15:31 GMT

Ive tried installing flash and shockwave player 8, no difference. The video
always plays perfectly the first time you play it but once you close and
reopen its dead. Ive tried the flash rewinding thing but thats not the
problem as i can save the PPT directly after setting it up before i play it
and if i close and re open it wont play the first time. Its not only
different from computer to computer but its different ont he same computer
too. Sometimes it works soemtimes it dosent. The best example of this is in
slide 36 i insterted SWF A on my machind and it works. I insert the same file
the same way into slide 37 but from another machine and it dosent work.
Theres no difference in implementation.

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Echo S - 12 Mar 2008 17:18 GMT

I have seen this, too, so it's not you, and you're not crazy. :-) I don't
know if it's a PowerPoint issue or an issue with the Flash control, though.
I was doing a training video, actually, and the Flash file wasn't
cooperating. It embedded fine when I went through it during practice, but
then later I realized it wasn't embedding consistently, and I don't know
what the difference is/was. Best I could do in the video was to tell users
to be sure to test the file to make sure the SWF was embedded....

This will sound odd, but you might try saving the file as a 97-2003 format
file and see if that embeds it or not. I recall there were some PPT
presentations on Office Online that had embedded Flash files. If you open
those files in PPT 2007, the Flash is "missing," but if you open them in
2003, the Flash works fine. The irony of it is, the files were "2007
training" files. heh. Anyway, so the Flash is really there, but 2007 makes
it seem as if it's not -- so that makes me wonder if there's some kind of
security something - or - other going on when you try to embed a SWF
directly into a 2007 file.

I know this isn't really an answer, but I don't have anything else....

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> Ive tried installing flash and shockwave player 8, no difference. The
> video
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> the same way into slide 37 but from another machine and it dosent work.
> Theres no difference in implementation.

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Echo S - 12 Mar 2008 17:20 GMT

Oh, in addition to the comment I just posted, try making sure both SWFs are
located in your trusted locations before you insert them into the file.
(Rereading your post, I noticed you mentioned inserting a SWF that's on a
different drive, and that made me think about this.)

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D1g1tal_0ne - 12 Mar 2008 18:17 GMT

The swf and the video files are all in the same folder on our public server.
The ppt linking to them is one level up int he folder above the video folder.

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Echo S - 12 Mar 2008 18:29 GMT

> The swf and the video files are all in the same folder on our public
> server.
> The ppt linking to them is one level up int he folder above the video
> folder.

Okay, then I guess I don't understand what you said here:

> Its not only
> different from computer to computer but its different ont he same computer
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> file
> the same way into slide 37 but from another machine and it dosent work.

So you're not inserting SWFs that are in different locations, you're
inserting SWFs by opening the PPT file on different computers? If that's the
case, then ignore what I said about trusted locations. Or, wait, maybe not.
Could be that the trusted locations for the computers are different.

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