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Complicated music question
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Neil - 01 Apr 2008 17:27 GMT I've got a PowerPoint 2007 presentation (though it is saved as a 2003 file) for a charity fundraiser, and I am trying to embed music into it. I have converted the two songs that I want to use into .wav files, and inserted them into the presentation. The first song plays perfectly. But the second song just won't play -- the slides continue to advance, but without music.
I have increased the Max Sound File to 50000. I have tried "start on click," "start with previous," and "start with next." I have tried "play sound across slides," "automatically," and "when clicked." I have it set to "start playing from beginning." I am using Custom Animation, and have tried to make the "transition sound" the .wav file I want. In short, I have spent hours on this, and am at my wits end!
If it makes a difference, the songs are about 43MB each. Is there a total limit, other than the 50000 per file limit?
Thanks so much for helping -- it's for a good cause!
John Wilson - 01 Apr 2008 17:40 GMT I'm not clear what you need. Do you want the songs to play together or the first followed by the second? (or something else) Do they have to be embedded?
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> I've got a PowerPoint 2007 presentation (though it is saved as a 2003 file) > for a charity fundraiser, and I am trying to embed music into it. I have [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Thanks so much for helping -- it's for a good cause! Neil - 02 Apr 2008 01:04 GMT Hi,
I would like the second song to follow the first. Right now, I have the first song starting on slide #1, and the second song starting on slide #30. But slide #30 comes and goes, and the music doesn't start.
Thanks for your help! Neil
> I'm not clear what you need. Do you want the songs to play together or the > first followed by the second? (or something else) Do they have to be embedded? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > > Thanks so much for helping -- it's for a good cause! Neil - 02 Apr 2008 01:07 GMT Sorry, I forgot to answer the second question. It would be much, much better if the songs were embedded. That way I could post the entire presentation to a storage service on the web (I'm in Cambodia, and need to get the presentation to Chicago).
Thanks again.
> I'm not clear what you need. Do you want the songs to play together or the > first followed by the second? (or something else) Do they have to be embedded? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > > Thanks so much for helping -- it's for a good cause! John Wilson - 02 Apr 2008 09:42 GMT Does the second song play in PowerPoint if you just insert it on eg the first slide?
If not you probably need to explain how you converted it. You might also want to try adding the sounds as transition sound on the relevant slides. http://www.pptalchemy.co.uk/embed_wavs.html
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> Sorry, I forgot to answer the second question. It would be much, much better > if the songs were embedded. That way I could post the entire presentation to [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > > > > Thanks so much for helping -- it's for a good cause! Neil - 02 Apr 2008 14:51 GMT John and Austin,
Thanks so much for your replies. I thought we had the answer, but it turns out that we're closer but not yet there.
When I read your replies I thought: "Of John and Austin's suggestions, which is easiest to test out?" So first I tried changing the song's name from "Beautiful Day" to "Day." No luck. And I almost skipped over the suggestion to try moving the music file since the first song, which has always played, is in the same (admittedly buried) file. But I decided to try it and it worked. Here's the problem:
Moving the .wav file to C:\temp definitely did something -- the second file wouldn't play when it was in that buried file, and it did play when it was located in C:\temp. But when I deleted the .wav file from C:\temp to make sure that the song was actually embedded, it wouldn't play. In short, it seems to have been linked instead of embedded. Then I decided to see if the same was true for the first song, and I removed it from the buried file where it was located. It turns out that file WAS embedded -- it still plays even when the "source" file is removed.
Two more pieces of info: First, I tried deleting both music files from the presentation, moving the both files to C:\temp, and embedding them both from there. I still have the same problem -- the first song plays, the second does not. But here's the interesting thing -- something must be happening. Because when I started doing all of these things in response to your suggestions, the presentation was "only" 134MB. Now it is 176MB, and the second song is almost 42MB. So it almost looks like it IS now embbeded.
Any further suggestions?
Thanks again, Neil
> Does the second song play in PowerPoint if you just insert it on eg the first > slide? [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for helping -- it's for a good cause! Neil - 02 Apr 2008 15:16 GMT Another near success.
I studied the link you sent me and made adjustments to convert the instructions from PPT 2003 to PPT 2007. Since I had tried Method 2, I tried Method 1. Incredibly, it worked. So I saved the file and ran through the slide presentation a second time. This time, the second slide once again didn't play.
Any additional suggestions greatly appreciated! Neil
> Does the second song play in PowerPoint if you just insert it on eg the first > slide? [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for helping -- it's for a good cause! Austin Myers - 02 Apr 2008 04:17 GMT Neil,
You may want to give a quick read of this tutorial explaining how PowerPoint plays media in the presentation. http://www.playsforcertain.com/tutorial.htm
Now is there any chance the non-playing wav has a long name? I ask as PowerPoint has an issue with playing media files that have a long path/file name. (Try moving the presentation and wav files to a folder with a very short path. Example: "C:\test".) Once done delete them from the presentation and then reinsert them while navigating to your test folder where they and the presentation are located.
If that fails, test the files in the Windows MCI player. (Explained in the tutorial.) If it won't play in the MCI player, it is never going to play in PowerPoint.
If you are still having problems holler back and we'll see if we can't pin it down.
Austin Myers MS PowerPoint MVP Team
Provider of PFCPro, PFCMedia and PFCExpress www.playsforcertain.com
> I've got a PowerPoint 2007 presentation (though it is saved as a 2003 > file) [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Thanks so much for helping -- it's for a good cause! Neil - 02 Apr 2008 14:50 GMT John and Austin,
Thanks so much for your replies. I thought we had the answer, but it turns out that we're closer but not yet there.
When I read your replies I thought: "Of John and Austin's suggestions, which is easiest to test out?" So first I tried changing the song's name from "Beautiful Day" to "Day." No luck. And I almost skipped over the suggestion to try moving the music file since the first song, which has always played, is in the same (admittedly buried) file. But I decided to try it and it worked. Here's the problem:
Moving the .wav file to C:\temp definitely did something -- the second file wouldn't play when it was in that buried file, and it did play when it was located in C:\temp. But when I deleted the .wav file from C:\temp to make sure that the song was actually embedded, it wouldn't play. In short, it seems to have been linked instead of embedded. Then I decided to see if the same was true for the first song, and I removed it from the buried file where it was located. It turns out that file WAS embedded -- it still plays even when the "source" file is removed.
Two more pieces of info: First, I tried deleting both music files from the presentation, moving the both files to C:\temp, and embedding them both from there. I still have the same problem -- the first song plays, the second does not. But here's the interesting thing -- something must be happening. Because when I started doing all of these things in response to your suggestions, the presentation was "only" 134MB. Now it is 176MB, and the second song is almost 42MB. So it almost looks like it IS now embbeded.
Any further suggestions?
Thanks again, Neil
> Neil, > [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > > > Thanks so much for helping -- it's for a good cause! John Wilson - 02 Apr 2008 15:37 GMT To check if sound is embedded, select the icon and click sound tools (above the ribbon)
use the dropdown menu "Sound Options" - at the bottom you will see "File" and either a link path or 'Contained in Presentation'
Try adding as a transition sound - if it's not really a true wav it wont insert.
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> John and Austin, > [quoted text clipped - 79 lines] > > > > > > Thanks so much for helping -- it's for a good cause! Neil - 02 Apr 2008 16:23 GMT Thanks for the quick reply.
In the version that I was working on yesterday, and about which I posted my initial question, both songs say "Contained in Presentation."
Then today, in response to a reply from Austin Myers, I made a new version of the presentation and tried inserting it as a transition sound. And here's where it gets really strange: when I first did that, the second song played. When I immediately went back to check it, it did not play. I've tried it a good number of times after that (closing PPT, rebooting my computer, etc.), and on one occassion the second song again played, but the other times it did not.
Might the presentation just be too big? It's 130MB. But I'm running it on a Dual Core processor with 2GB of RAM.
Thanks again, Neil
> To check if sound is embedded, select the icon and click sound tools (above > the ribbon) [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for helping -- it's for a good cause!
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