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MS Office Forum / General PowerPoint Questions / April 2008Remove Compatibility Pack/SP1 Office 2007
As much as I would like all of my clients to upgrade their hardware and software regularly, they don't for various reasons that I'm sure everyone is familiar with. I, however, must keep all 3 recent versions of Office on my machine (2000-2007) because I can't force my clients to use only one version. When I installed the Compatibility Pack, I was dismayed to see that one of its "features" is that it will override all other versions of PowerPoint on your machine and only open 2007. This does not work for me, as the majority of my clients have not upgraded yet and it's annoying to be continually closing 2007, and using Open in XP to browse to my files. Therefore, when I bought my upgrade (I had been playing around with the Beta), I made sure that I didn't install this Compatibility Pack, only to find out that it's part of SP1, so now every time I double click to open a .ppt, I'm taken to a program that I don't want to be taken to. The only way I've found to disable this is to reinstall XP afterwards (which seems to override the compatibility settings) but there's got to be a better solution. I mean, seriously, there's a new extension on these files, do we really need all this compatibility pack stuff? How hard can it be to save down, the way it's always been done? While I have AdobeCS3, to this day I still save Illustrator files down to version 10 when I send it out to make sure that other people can open it. And yes, I did try to use Associations to change which program opens what but PowerPoint has the *same* name for both the XP and 2007 versions (POWERPNT.EXE), so it doesn't work (or I'm doing it wrong, somehow, but using the same technique I was able to change .png to open in Photoshop). If anyone has a better suggestion on this, I'm all ears. I will, however, be reinstalling OfficeXP in the meantime so that I can get some work done. Well, it turns out I was wrong. I repaired my OfficeXP installation and everything was working fine, until I opened an Excel document, which opened Excel07 and repaired my Office07 installation (for reasons unknown and unspecified) and reverted the whole mess right back again. So, I decided to uninstall SP1. Other Windows updates show up in Vista's Program and Features/Installed Updates list and, when you click on them, you get options like Uninstall. Not SP1. No other choice, then, uninstall Office07. SP1 is now gone. I will reinstall 07 and be careful to not reinstall SP1. Unless it just automatically comes back somehow (Gawd I hope not) when I reinstall. At this rate, I'm going to have to buy another machine in order to keep the versions apart. I don't think it's got anything to do with the compat pack, but I admit I'm not positive about that. Anyway, there may be a registry hack for this. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928091 This mentions Word's autoregister, but I don't see anything about PPT, bummer. Still, there may be ideas there for you. What about using a virtual machine for one of the Office versions?  SignatureEcho [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx > Well, it turns out I was wrong. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > the > versions apart. > At this rate, I'm going to have to buy another machine in order to keep the > versions apart. Not necessarily: Using Virtual PC / VMWare virtual computers http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00819.htm A real hair-saver. ----------------------------------------- Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================ Hi AFAIK this is not related to the compatability pack - that just allows older versions to open 2007 files. To have files open in 2002 (XP) when double clicked try this (I haven't tried it myself but it seems to have worked for others): Go to start Run and type with quotes "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\OFFICE10\POWERpnt.exe /regserve" BTW you can have more than one version of PowerPoint open at one time - I often work with 2007 and 2003 both open. Hope that helps Lucy SignatureLucy Thomson PowerPoint MVP MOS Master Instructor www.aneasiertomorrow.com.au > As much as I would like all of my clients to upgrade their hardware and > software regularly, they don't for various reasons that I'm sure everyone [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > be > reinstalling OfficeXP in the meantime so that I can get some work done. > The only way I've found to disable this is to reinstall XP afterwards (which > seems to override the compatibility settings) but there's got to be a better > solution. I mean, seriously, there's a new extension on these files, do we > really need all this compatibility pack stuff? A new extension and altogether different contents in the file itself. You need the compat pack if you want to be able to open 2007 files in earlier versions of PPT. > How hard can it be to save > down, Not very. In PPT 2007, do a file, save as and choose PPT 1997-2003 format (ie, PPT). ----------------------------------------- Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================ > A new extension and altogether different contents in the file itself. > You need the compat pack if you want to be able to open 2007 files in earlier > versions of PPT. Which will remove all the editing functionality of them, thereby making them essentially useless, I assume. I ran a small test today on what happens when you save down, and right now it converts all SmartArt etc. to med-res (150ppi) transparent PNG files. This would be good if you want the 3d look or shadow in XP and can't dupe it in Photoshop easily. Actually, now that I think about it, it's way easier, do your chart in XP, save the single slide, open in 07 colour/drop shadow/3D your boxes, save the slide, bring it back into XP, Bob's yer uncle. It would also be good for clients who haven't upgraded, want the 07 features and need to see what it's like -- with the added bonus that they can't change their slides themselves >devilish grin< So, not much more different than saving to PDF or exporting all slides as images (which I currently have to do for some project manager clients who are on Macs, yet their clients are on PCs). Right now, when I open a .pptx, it opens 07, and when I double click a .ppt, it opens XP -- which is how I likes it -- all is good in my little PPT World. A review of the Control Panel->Installed Updates shows that the only 07 update I have currently installed is PowerPoint Viewer 2007 SP1, not the dreaded regular SP1. I guess I'm going to have to run some tests to see if you can still save down if you have a fresh install (no upgrades) versus what happens after SP1. Call me paranoid, but I'm not 100% convinced that all the residue of that ServicePack is gone, considering that I can save a file in 07 as 07 only and then I can open it up in XP, without going through that saving down/Compatibility check thing. hmm... > > A new extension and altogether different contents in the file itself. > > You need the compat pack if you want to be able to open 2007 files in earlier > > versions of PPT. > > Which will remove all the editing functionality of them, Not all, but in cases where a PPT2007 effect can't be reproduced in 2003, it'll be converted to an image. There's no way MS was going to back-build all the new features of PPT 2007 into 2003. They had a choice of preserving editability (at the cost of blowing away loads of visual effects) or preserving visual integrity at the expense of editability. They went with the latter. Depending on our individual needs, we may see that as a sensible choice or a bad one. > essentially useless, I assume. I ran a small test today on what happens when > you save down, and right now it converts all SmartArt etc. to med-res [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > then I can open it up in XP, without going through that saving > down/Compatibility check thing. hmm... Hope this saves some time then: You don't need 2007 SP1 to back-save to 97-2003 format. That's built into the original release of the product. But if you can open a PPTX in 2003 or earlier, you must have the compatibility pack installed. The service pack, so far as I know, doesn't include the compatibility pack. (Sombody will jump on me with both feet in a few minutes if I'm wrong. Echo? Do I need to duck?) ----------------------------------------- Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com PPTools: www.pptools.com ================================================ > Hope this saves some time then: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > minutes if > I'm wrong. Echo? Do I need to duck?) No need to duck...or even to walk pigeon-toed. SP1 for Office 2007 does not include the compatibility pack. SignatureEcho [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx
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