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MS Office Forum / Publisher / Commercial Printing / January 2004rbg pics in publisher
I receive publisher files more and more and I have always had a problem with rgb artwork in them. If I copy and paste the photos into photoshop they are greyscale, but when I print my publisher files to a postscript file to give to distiller I end up with rgb photos. Anything I do in the commercial color tools has made no difference...what an I missing here? Hi vinnie (prepressjedi@msn.com), in the Microsoft? newsgroups you posted: || I receive publisher files more and more and I have always || had a problem with rgb artwork in them. If I copy and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] || in the commercial color tools has made no || difference...what an I missing here? Publisher 2002 and older only support RGB. Publisher 2003 supports CMYK composite output.  SignatureBrian Kvalheim Microsoft Office Publisher MVP Official Publisher MVP Site: http://www.kvalheim.org This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. So unless I upgrade I cannot even do BW work ? sure you can but you have to do it the right way.<G> first, don't copy and paste. there are provisions made for importing images, use them. why? reliability. second, with the image properly in place, go to tools>commercial printing tools>colors (or something like that...i don't memorize the menu structures<G>) and tell it this is a single color document. BAM! everything is black and white...including imported color pictures. then print. -- Mac Townsend, Adcom Graphics, Fairfield, California: Electronic Prepress & Large Format Imaging www.adcomgraphics.com That is what I have tried, it is not helping >-----Original Message----- >sure you can but you have to do it the right way.<G> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >. if you've properly imported a greyscale image and have the document properly set as a b&w document and the result *still* comes out as color, there's clearly something wrong. What format is the greyscale image? Don't use eps. Use tiff. Don't use jpg (I distrust the format) (note it is possible to have an image appear in all respects to be greyscale but still be internally described as rgb. HP's scanner drivers do this--one reason I've abandoned HP as a serious vendor candidate). you say you "copy and paste" the pictures into photoshop and they are greyscale. how are they greyscale? is that what they look like or is that what they are described as under the mode menu? (being a devout skeptic of copy and paste, i'd eliminate that and open the file in photoshop, reset it to greyscale, then save as something and then import that into publisher--not copy and paste.) if you are trying to print to a color printer or color capable printer (such as Distiller) don't. go to a B&W only printer, such as MS generic imagesetter driver. for grins, change the document to a spot + K and make some headline a spot color. print separations. the g are you trying to print them as composite? doing that won't work. because Pub02 and earlier will change this to rgb. Another thing, incorrect distiller settings can change the colorspace. make sure you have the color tab in job settings chset to "leave color unchanged". -- Mac Townsend, Adcom Graphics, Fairfield, California: Electronic Prepress & Large Format Imaging www.adcomgraphics.com The images are greyscale under the mode menu in PS,is it because the images are imbedded in the document that setting the commercial color tool to single color BW has no effect.I have been doing prepress work for 14 years but cant seem to get this publisher monkey off my butt... >-----Original Message----- >if you've properly imported a greyscale image and have the document properly [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >. When you copy-and-paste you invoke sometimes substantial format changes to the file. This is true mac or windows. For instance, copy and paste in Windows usually involves changing the file format to bmp or wmf. IOW, you copy a tiff or something but AFAIK the object that gets pasted is a wmf. If wmf (which I believe to be the more common conversion), it must exist in rgb colorspace since I don't think there is a grey colorspace with wmf. This alone could explain what you are seeing. If I'm right, the explanation is made. If I'm wrong, its not made but it suggests an anvenue to travel...don't use copy and paste and don't print to an rgb printer (ink jet, etc) I've seen similar things (especially serious image degradation) when multiple instances are used on mac OS where the conversion is usually to pict...in this case, there's a greyscale pict colorspace whereas there isn't a greyscale space for wmf AFAIK. Within a single application, such as using Multiple paste in PageMaker or step and repeat in Quark or Duplicate in Corel copy and paste usually works pretty well....but these situations do not involve the OS and its giu core routines like doing it between applications does. if 14 years haven't suggested that copy and paste is the wrong way to move stuff into a layout program, well.....<G> Another possible way to solve the problem simply. "if the solution to a problem is not apparent, try to change the definition of the problem and solve that instead"...In your composite PDF use the object touch up tool to sleect the rgb image, right mouse button, "edit image" and bam! it's in Pshop. Correct it, save, and close. the changed image is back in the PDF. You may need to set your preferences in Acrobat to allow this. there's a similar functionality for vector objects. -- Mac Townsend, Adcom Graphics, Fairfield, California: Electronic Prepress & Large Format Imaging www.adcomgraphics.com > That is what I have tried, it is not helping > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Electronic Prepress & Large Format Imaging > >www.adcomgraphics.com Save in eps mode, link file in program (don´t copy/paste) and everything works fine with Framemaker, Excel, Word and Publisher. Output will be just what you are waiting for. TJ If I recall correctly, this issue was about greyscale images printing as process out of Pub 2003. well....I just happened to be glancing thru the Prepress Reference Guide for ought-three and known issue! Pub 03 handles greyscale as rgb and will separate them as color files EVEN WHEN THEY COME IN AS GREYSCALE solution is to open pub, right cliick on image, then on shortcut (flyout) menu click Format Picture then in this window, click Picture tab. click Recolor. for regular greyscale, then select the black patch and click ok. it will print correctly now. I sure hope this word gets back to the guy who was trying deparately to get his files to work because none of us who responded earlier seemed to know the whole story. I appologise for myself (RTFM, Mac!) and the others. -- Mac Townsend, Adcom Graphics, Fairfield, California: Electronic Prepress & Large Format Imaging www.adcomgraphics.com |
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