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Image resolution Add-In Needed

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Fred L - 16 Jan 2004 20:32 GMT
I'm looking for a few Add-ins for Publisher, Word, and powerpoint.
1. Drop Shadow around a picture box.  A feathered drop shadow around a
picture box that would change with the resizeing of the box.
2.  A utility that would provide the actual resolution in dpi of an image as
it appears in a picture box.  Not the screen resolution but the actual
resolution of the image as it relates to the printed page.
3.  An oval picture box that could be resized, and of course have a drop
shadow with it too.

Drop me an email if you know where we could find these items.
???MS?Publisher??? - 16 Jan 2004 21:39 GMT
Fred Nerk you are not worth wasting time on.

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Fred L - 16 Jan 2004 22:10 GMT
Sorry, What do you mean?
Do you have a question about the add-in that I'm describing?
Do you have experience with this type of Add-in?
Are you the moderator for this group?
fred

> Fred Nerk you are not worth wasting time on.
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Mike Koewler - 16 Jan 2004 22:39 GMT
Fred,

I *think* what David was trying to say is that you repeatedly violated
netequitte: Three posts in three different threads that were the same
posts, then asking for people to drop you an e-mail rather than posting
the answer for others to see.

I guess it could have been worse. You could have asked for people to
e-mail you a free add-in.

Mike

> Sorry, What do you mean?
> Do you have a question about the add-in that I'm describing?
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Aledar's Big Garage - 18 Jan 2004 18:49 GMT
Sorry about the Netequitte violation. Not intended.  Was unaware of the
'rules'.
> Fred,
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°°°MS°Publisher°°° - 16 Jan 2004 22:41 GMT
Fred Nerk we do not do e-mail, so do not bothering with replies that request e-mail.

Point 2 nobody really needs those features because if we do we use Serif PagePlus 9.0 instead of Publisher which the large majority of people own.

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Aledar's Big Garage - 18 Jan 2004 18:55 GMT
Sorry again for the 'netetequet' error, but We are looking for these features in our business.  We want to provide publisher tools to our customers who may create their church directory pages in publisher.  We want them to check the resolution of all images before they insert them into a page and send the files to us for printing.  
About the drop shadows, it's a feature offered by other page creation software.  Our customers are consumers, not graphic designers and need all the simple enhancement they can get.
 Fred Nerk we do not do e-mail, so do not bothering with replies that request e-mail.

 Point 2 nobody really needs those features because if we do we use Serif PagePlus 9.0 instead of Publisher which the large majority of people own.

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°°°MS°Publisher°°° - 19 Jan 2004 01:36 GMT
Fred you are excused.

Why not just get them to buy Serif PagePlus as it has everything, including the greatest shaped text frames in the business.
The other advantage is that Serif PagePlus has PDF and CMYK if you need that all built in - wonderful.

 Sorry again for the 'netetequet' error, but We are looking for these features in our business.  We want to provide publisher tools to our customers who may create their church directory pages in publisher.  We want them to check the resolution of all images before they insert them into a page and send the files to us for printing.  
 About the drop shadows, it's a feature offered by other page creation software.  Our customers are consumers, not graphic designers and need all the simple enhancement they can get
Aledar's Big Garage - 20 Jan 2004 03:28 GMT
Here's the situation.  We do Church directories for churches and the church people do the lay out either electronically or real life cut and paste photos.  So, most of the folks doing this are amateurs to say the least. We use Quarke XPres internally and accept is a way to submit their layouts.  But this limits electronic submission to a very few folks.  So... Publisher is widely used in churches and businesses and we want to make it as easy as possible for them to do this job without spending any money.  And, we don't want to have to spend a lot of time with their files once we do get them.  The Directory is Free to the church.  We've been talking with Ulead about their MyScrapbook 2 product.  It's Great for our niche except their text editor is not sophisticated enough to wrap within a text box. Bummer. We don't make enough on an account to 'buy' them the software. Get my delima?
We're just trying to make it super easy for our customers to get their free directory.
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 Fred you are excused.

 Why not just get them to buy Serif PagePlus as it has everything, including the greatest shaped text frames in the business.
 The other advantage is that Serif PagePlus has PDF and CMYK if you need that all built in - wonderful.

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   "Aledar's Big Garage" <MrNobody@bigplanet.com> wrote in message news:1074452151.428718@news1.bigplanet.com...
   Sorry again for the 'netetequet' error, but We are looking for these features in our business.  We want to provide publisher tools to our customers who may create their church directory pages in publisher.  We want them to check the resolution of all images before they insert them into a page and send the files to us for printing.  
   About the drop shadows, it's a feature offered by other page creation software.  Our customers are consumers, not graphic designers and need all the simple enhancement they can get
°°°MS°Publisher°°° - 20 Jan 2004 06:34 GMT
Well why not use Publisher 2003 yourselves instead of stuffing around with Quark.

It will do all the CMYK work for you, and have no issues copying work from other Publisher files.

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Fred L - 20 Jan 2004 14:58 GMT
Use Publisher?  A very good question which we are considering but Publisher does have its limitations. And our prepress production system is 'set up' using several QXP "extensions" to help us automate some of what we do. We have used publisher to create directory pages (CMYK) and it works fine.  We're using Acrobat and photoshop to "look at" images imbedded in publisher to insure the resolution is high enough. We also make color adjustments occasionally.  But this is time consuming.  The is a company in Western Canada that offers a product that does 'most' of what we want but the cost again is too high for us.
 Well why not use Publisher 2003 yourselves instead of stuffing around with Quark.

 It will do all the CMYK work for you, and have no issues copying work from other Publisher files.

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mact - 21 Jan 2004 17:25 GMT
the solution lies in having them print from their computer (with their
installed fonts, etc. etc) to a format you can use.

PDF is the link here.

How you do it, I'm not sure. But Kinkos does it and so so quite a few
others.

There are services that you can hook up with that can handle this for you.
the customer logs on, prints the file to the virtual printer, and it spits
out a pdf on your ftp site.

Offhand I don't have any names for you...but if I did the whole thing for
you I'd have to ask for royalties<BG>

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Mac Townsend,
Adcom Graphics, Fairfield, California:
Electronic Prepress & Large Format Imaging
www.adcomgraphics.com
Aledar's Big Garage - 22 Jan 2004 01:33 GMT
We know how to do the PDF thing (and Do.) . Print the documents to Acrobat
Distiller or other then within Acrobat, you can 'pull out' the images and
send them to Photoshop to do the resolution test and make changes if you
like.  We're just trying to automate this step of the process.  Or let the
customer do it. Our customers (low tech consumers) generally don't have
Acrobat or similar software.  We're lucky if they have Publisher. Are you
someone who "could" develop this solution? We don't expect people to work
for Free...
> the solution lies in having them print from their computer (with their
> installed fonts, etc. etc) to a format you can use.
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> Electronic Prepress & Large Format Imaging
> www.adcomgraphics.com
Chris Griffiths - 22 Jan 2004 12:41 GMT
> We know how to do the PDF thing (and Do.) . Print the documents to Acrobat
> Distiller or other then within Acrobat, you can 'pull out' the images and
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> someone who "could" develop this solution? We don't expect people to work
> for Free...

Take the PDFs, pre-flight with PitStop, which gives you a list of images
which are below your preset resolution. And spots/fixes a thousand and one
other problems as well.  Doesn't give your customers the ability to do the
check, but it beats exporting images and opening them in Photoshop
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mact - 22 Jan 2004 21:58 GMT
You missed my point<G>

your customer accesses the pdf maker via the internet and prints to this
module just as if it was the Epson on the desk next to him. he does not have
to make a pdf. he prints his file same as always. pdf generation is handled
by the module on the website.

the module then proceeds to preflight the pdf, and then sends that pdf to
YOUR ftp site.

to the customer it's seamless. to you it's no need for tech support.

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Mac Townsend,
Adcom Graphics, Fairfield, California:
Electronic Prepress & Large Format Imaging
www.adcomgraphics.com
Aledar's Big Garage - 22 Jan 2004 01:40 GMT
I just bought a copy of Serif Page PLus 9.  I'll see what it will do... They're picky folks up there.
 Fred you are excused.

 Why not just get them to buy Serif PagePlus as it has everything, including the greatest shaped text frames in the business.
 The other advantage is that Serif PagePlus has PDF and CMYK if you need that all built in - wonderful.

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   "Aledar's Big Garage" <MrNobody@bigplanet.com> wrote in message news:1074452151.428718@news1.bigplanet.com...
   Sorry again for the 'netetequet' error, but We are looking for these features in our business.  We want to provide publisher tools to our customers who may create their church directory pages in publisher.  We want them to check the resolution of all images before they insert them into a page and send the files to us for printing.  
   About the drop shadows, it's a feature offered by other page creation software.  Our customers are consumers, not graphic designers and need all the simple enhancement they can get
Mike Koewler - 22 Jan 2004 05:20 GMT
It's the HB. Serif uses their Charge Card, maxes it out, and has to
release an updated version to get the money to pay it off, otherwise
Karlos the Kommie won't deliver any more stainless steel pails of the
naturally brewed product to Dale and Company.

Oh, don't forget to download the latest patch and check into the forum
if you have any questions: http://www.serif.com/forum/default.asp

There are actually some sane people there, I think.

Mike

> I just bought a copy of Serif Page PLus 9.  I'll see what it will do...
> They're picky folks up there.
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>         creation software.  Our customers are consumers, not graphic
>         designers and need all the simple enhancement they can get.
mact - 18 Jan 2004 01:44 GMT
nobody develops or markets add-ins for MS Publisher.

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Mac Townsend,
Adcom Graphics, Fairfield, California:
Electronic Prepress & Large Format Imaging
www.adcomgraphics.com
Aledar's Big Garage - 18 Jan 2004 20:57 GMT
Ok, how about add-ins for MS Word?
> nobody develops or markets add-ins for MS Publisher.
>
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> Electronic Prepress & Large Format Imaging
> www.adcomgraphics.com
mact - 18 Jan 2004 21:42 GMT
I have no idea. Word is not a graphics application (really!) so I'd not
expect there to be.

the things you are looking for are usually plugins for Photoshop or the
like. Of course, you could process the images in Photoshop and then import
them with the drop shadows and stuff into Publisher. I have no idea how they
would reproduce out of Publisher, but I suppose they would work ok. Might
give the service bureau or printshop fits.

Most of the time IMHO (after 30+ years in the industry) such effects are
grossly overused and usually show that the document creator was just trying
to look "arty" and instead, to the practiced eye, ended up looking "novice"

As for image resolution, you should know what that is before you import the
graphic and should know the extent to which you can enlarge or reduce the
image without running into potential problems. Under normal conditions an
image should be sized (and cropped!!!!) correctly in Photoshop (etc) and not
have its size changed more than 10-20% either way within the receiving
document.

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Mac Townsend,
Adcom Graphics, Fairfield, California:
Electronic Prepress & Large Format Imaging
www.adcomgraphics.com
 
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