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Mjfabian - 22 Apr 2005 17:14 GMT
A PUBLISHING program can't even export to Acrobat automatically?  What good
IS it if it can't even turn the file into an industry standard format.  There
is no reason a multi-billion dollar company can't make a program that can do
this all seamlessly and automatically.
JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP] - 22 Apr 2005 21:04 GMT
Of course it can. I do it quite often. Who told you it can't?

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JoAnn Paules
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>A PUBLISHING program can't even export to Acrobat automatically?  What good
> IS it if it can't even turn the file into an industry standard format.
> There
> is no reason a multi-billion dollar company can't make a program that can
> do
> this all seamlessly and automatically.
Mjfabian - 22 Apr 2005 21:13 GMT
Without a third party program?

> Of course it can. I do it quite often. Who told you it can't?
>
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> > do
> > this all seamlessly and automatically.
JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP] - 22 Apr 2005 21:35 GMT
No, but considering that Acrobat is owned by a separate company, why would
you expect that?

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> Without a third party program?
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>> > do
>> > this all seamlessly and automatically.
Mjfabian - 22 Apr 2005 22:40 GMT
Because 3DS Max can export to Maya,
because Paint Shop Pro can save as a *.PSD,
because, well...you get the idea.  Companies make their programs able to
export to even their leading competitors.  Thousands of programs have a nifty
little feature under File -> Export.  You may have seen this yourself.

It's not a ridiculous expectation that a program designed to make
PUBLICATIONS have a built in exporter to an industry standard PUBLICATION
format.
JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP] - 22 Apr 2005 23:00 GMT
You don't "export" to a .pdf file. Export is usually some sort of an attempt
to allow one file to be opened by another program.

If you really want .pdf files, download PrimoPDF. It's a free program and
you can create all the .pdf files you want. Can't edit them but.............
(I'm spoiled, I just got Acrobat Pro v7)
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JoAnn Paules
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> Because 3DS Max can export to Maya,
> because Paint Shop Pro can save as a *.PSD,
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> PUBLICATIONS have a built in exporter to an industry standard PUBLICATION
> format.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 23 Apr 2005 01:53 GMT
> Because 3DS Max can export to Maya,
> because Paint Shop Pro can save as a *.PSD,
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> PUBLICATIONS have a built in exporter to an industry standard PUBLICATION
> format.

Like Quark XPress, which can export directly to PDF.

But Publisher isn't Quark XPress.  It's a cheesy home program designed
to print to home inkjet printers.  Period.

If you want to export to PDF, you'll have to ante up more than the
couple of bucks that you paid for Publisher.
Mike Koewler - 23 Apr 2005 02:35 GMT
<snip>

> But Publisher isn't Quark XPress.  It's a cheesy home program designed
> to print to home inkjet printers.  Period.
>
> If you want to export to PDF, you'll have to ante up more than the
> couple of bucks that you paid for Publisher.

No you don't. One can download a free pdf creation program such as
primo.pdf and create a pdf file.

And your first paragraph is just as wrong as your second one, and you
know better. Too many people produce professional output for your post
to be considered as anything more than a bash at Publisher.

Please don't offer wide sweeping statements that are simply wrong. Okay,
go ahead and do it. And lose all credibility.

Mike
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 23 Apr 2005 10:02 GMT
> > If you want to export to PDF, you'll have to ante up more than the
> > couple of bucks that you paid for Publisher.
>
> No you don't. One can download a free pdf creation program such as
> primo.pdf and create a pdf file.

True, but that's not EXPORT from within the program.
Odysseus - 12 May 2005 00:37 GMT
> > > If you want to export to PDF, you'll have to ante up more than the
> > > couple of bucks that you paid for Publisher.
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>
> True, but that's not EXPORT from within the program.

I know of no application, other than InDesign perhaps, whose built-in
PDF export is a reliable choice for pre-press purposes. Writing PS and
Distilling is almost always a better way to go, even if a PDF-exporting
feature is available.

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Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP] - 26 Apr 2005 01:10 GMT
|| But Publisher isn't Quark XPress.  It's a cheesy home program
|| designed to print to home inkjet printers.  Period.
||
|| If you want to export to PDF, you'll have to ante up more than the
|| couple of bucks that you paid for Publisher.

Wow...you come into the MS world of the newsgroups and post ENTIRELY wrong
information. You are wanted back in the usenet world Elmo.

P.S. Publisher + Adobe Acrobat Professional 7 is STILL cheaper than Quark.
However, as Mike metioned, there are indeed free alternatives (as well as
lower priced alternatives).

Don't let the door hit ya in the @ss on the way out.
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Odysseus - 12 May 2005 00:33 GMT
> > Because 3DS Max can export to Maya,
> > because Paint Shop Pro can save as a *.PSD,
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>
> Like Quark XPress, which can export directly to PDF.

Only because Quark licenses the JAWS engine -- another third-party
product -- to bundle with their program.

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Trent - 26 May 2005 05:06 GMT
First, some of you are getting a bit testy.  

Second, WordPerfect has a 'publish to PDF' option; yet Office 2002
applications cannot do the same.  In my business, I don't want to add
additional steps to get a job done.  I want a simple, single click solution.

> No, but considering that Acrobat is owned by a separate company, why would
> you expect that?
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> >> > do
> >> > this all seamlessly and automatically.
JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP] - 26 May 2005 15:04 GMT
I wasn't getting testy - just merely stating a fact.

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JoAnn Paules
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> First, some of you are getting a bit testy.
>
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>> >> > do
>> >> > this all seamlessly and automatically.
Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP] - 26 Apr 2005 01:14 GMT
|| A PUBLISHING program can't even export to Acrobat automatically?
|| What good IS it if it can't even turn the file into an industry
|| standard format.  There is no reason a multi-billion dollar company
|| can't make a program that can do this all seamlessly and
|| automatically.

Industry standard in who's eyes? Save it as a *.ps file. Industry standard
shops can distill *.ps file no problem. It's a standard.
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