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MS Office Forum / Publisher / Commercial Printing / November 2005Required fonts for Publisher 2003
What is the required font set to run Publisher 2003? I need to manage my font library and when I move my fonts around Publisher starts hanging and asking for the install disk. I know it's font related because it's the only thing I have changed in the last 6 months on my PC. I ran the Pub self repair utility and it repopulated my System Font Folder with many of the fonts I moved to a new location. A list of what it needs in the System Font Folder would be greatly appreciated. i run a Dell P4, Windows 2000, and have 1.25 Gigs of RAM. I run Office 2000, and Pub 2003. Thanks in advance! Why are you moving your fonts around? I'd suggest putting them back in the appropriate Windows folder.  SignatureJoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] > What is the required font set to run Publisher 2003? I need to manage my > font library and when I move my fonts around Publisher starts hanging and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Thanks in advance! > Why are you moving your fonts around? I'd suggest putting them back in > the appropriate Windows folder. Because whan you are trying to deal with 5-7,000 fonts of your own and with customer-supplied fonts that come in with every job, one simply MUST get them all out of the Windows fonts folder and off into their own space from where they can be activated/deactivated as required using a thrud party font "manager" such as Font Navigator (which IMHO is the best of a rather sorry lot). A common housecleaning task (or one that should be common) is to empty the windows fonts folder of all but the absolute essentials (fllwoed by cleaning the registry). The initial request for a list of the specific fonts that Publisher itself needs to have available for it;s own purposes is a reasonable one and one that has not been answered by anyone. Peerhaps this is because it is one that nobody knows how to answer. Hmm. Thanks for the background, Mac. :-) SignatureJoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] >> Why are you moving your fonts around? I'd suggest putting them back in >> the appropriate Windows folder. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > and one that has not been answered by anyone. Peerhaps this is because > it is one that nobody knows how to answer. Mac, Thanks for the support :) I'm pleased that I've received responses on this from the MVP crew, and from others in the industry, but I'm very suprised that the MS folks can't produce a list. This is the Commercial Print section, and I have a hard time believing that nobod has ever asked for a list of required fonts before. I don't have a need for the 200 fonts installed with the application because I'm in a prepress situation, not design. I don't actually need most of the fonts that come with any of the applications that I use, as my clients provide them for their jobs. As a work around I uninstalled, then did a custom install, leaving out the fonts among other things. I haven't had any problems yet so I'll see how that goes... Mabey if the program instals knowing that there weren't fonts installed also, it won't be looking for them. Who knows? :) I agree that there is a poor selection of PC font managers out there, and I've tried Bitstream's Font Navigator. Right now I'm demo'ing Extensis' Font Reserve 2.6 and it seems to be a bit more intuitive, once the System Fonts are cleaned up. I'd like to emplore the MVP staff to take a closer look at pre-press support. Many of us out here use your program because our customers do. It helps keep business comming in when we support popular programs like Pub 2000 & 2003. This is a pretty basic question for a prepress department, and it's answer is necessary for us to be sucessful in the industry. I appreciate you getting back to me quickly and your suggestions, but the answers show a lack of real world commercial print experience. I'd suggest looking more closely at this portion of your users, and what we do to round out your support capabilities. Thanks again Well, I don't know what fonts are actually required for Publisher 2003, but here's how I handle it. The only fonts that are allowed to permanently reside in my font folder are those fonts that are installed by default with Win XP. Everything else is activated on an as-needed basis with Font Reserve. I enforce this by periodically removing everything in my Windows Font Folder and then re-installing only the fonts the came with Win XP. For Publisher I did a search on the install CD for all the fonts on it and copied those to a special folder on my server. Then I activate those fonts temporarily using Font Reserve before I use Publisher. I did the same thing for Office. Publisher and Office both seem to work fine doing this, although I do sometimes have to permanently activate a font with Font Reserver in order to create a PDF - I'm not sure why. I do try and remember to deactivate the font once I'm finished with creating the PDF. SignatureJeff Daghir MPS Printing, Inc. The Ink & Paper People! Madison, IN www.mpsprinting.com jeff_daghir@mpsprinting.com Just as a follow up... I reinstalled Pub 2003 using the Custom Install option, and left the fonts out (among other items). I recleaned out my System Fonts folder leaving only the base font set in it. I haven't had any problems yet with Publisher wanting to reload the 200 or so fonts it comes with yet. That's a good thing because I had problems right away last time. I would still like a list from the MVP's if they come across it. > [...] whan you are trying to deal with 5-7,000 fonts of your own and > with customer-supplied fonts that come in with every job, one simply > MUST get them all out of the Windows fonts folder and off into their own > space from where they can be activated/deactivated as required using a > thrud party font "manager" such as Font Navigator (which IMHO is the > best of a rather sorry lot). I haven't been paying terribly close attention, and we don't get a great many Publisher files here, but it seems to me that Publisher reactivates all the MS fonts I've deactivated with FN, every time it runs. SignatureOdysseus Odysseus, That's exactly what was happening to me, too. I've found that by reinstalling Pub as a custom install leaving out the fonts, it doesn't do that. With the full insatll it would either activate all the MS Office font set, or ask for the Install disk to repopulate the System Font Folder with the Office font set. Kind of a PITA to reinstall, but it seems to be working fine. Fonts that are installed with Office http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;837463&Product=offxp SignatureMary Sauer MSFT MVP http://office.microsoft.com/ http://msauer.mvps.org/ news://msnews.microsoft.com > What is the required font set to run Publisher 2003? I need to manage my > font library and when I move my fonts around Publisher starts hanging and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks in advance! If you want to remove fonts from the system folder, why not try a font manager, you can install fonts on the fly without having to install them. Do a search, there are some modestly priced applications available. SignatureMary Sauer MSFT MVP http://office.microsoft.com/ http://msauer.mvps.org/ news://msnews.microsoft.com > Fonts that are installed with Office > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;837463&Product=offxp [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> Thanks in advance! Mary, This is exactly what I want to do. The problem that I'm having has to do with the fact that fonts in the System Font Folder are activated. Period. This is the case with the PC font managers that I have tried, so I need to be able to remove all the unnecessary ones, move them to another location on my hard drive, and active them as needed. If I remove all but the Windows base fonts + Times New Roman (for Word) all of my applications run fine except for Pub 2003. It needs some of them in order to run correctly. I want to know what those are. > If you want to remove fonts from the system folder, why not try a font manager, you > can install fonts on the fly without having to install them. > Do a search, there are some modestly priced applications available. Use the link Fonts that are installed with Office http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;837463&Product=offxp That link has all the fonts that shipped with Publisher 2003. The reason Publisher has these fonts is because it is graphical type application. The wizards use decorative fonts for templates and design sets. If it were me, I'd leave them in your system folder. A lot less headaches. SignatureMary Sauer MSFT MVP http://office.microsoft.com/ http://msauer.mvps.org/ news://msnews.microsoft.com > Mary, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> can install fonts on the fly without having to install them. >> Do a search, there are some modestly priced applications available. Ok, Never mind. I'll look for help somewhere else, or I'll try to reinstall the application with minimal font support, if that's possible. It's got to be a small and simple list, I just need to correspond with somebody that knows it. If you come across it could you please post it in this thread? I'll pop back in in the future to take a look-see. > Use the link > Fonts that are installed with Office [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > decorative fonts for templates and design sets. If it were me, I'd leave them in your > system folder. A lot less headaches. If you only install one or two fonts you will lose the function of the application. Publisher is not a word processor.You would be better off uninstalling it altogether. What you are trying to accomplish makes no sense. SignatureMary Sauer MSFT MVP http://office.microsoft.com/ http://msauer.mvps.org/ news://msnews.microsoft.com > Ok, > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> your >> system folder. A lot less headaches. > If you only install one or two fonts you will lose the function of the > application. Publisher is not a word processor.You would be better off > uninstalling it altogether. What you are trying to accomplish makes no > sense. What the OP is trying to achieve makes plenty of sense to me, as I'm sure it would to most others involved in pre-press. Unfortunately I don't have the answer, and can only suggest font elimination by trial and error. Signature-------------------------------------------------------- Chris Griffiths email: chris@stroudprint.co.uk StroudPrint phone: 01453 764251 Gloucestershire, England fax: 01453 752916 -------------------------------------------------------- I v y d e n e A s s o c i a t e s L t d -------------------------------------------------------- Thank you both for the reply. I am moving my fonts around because I need to be able to manage my client's submitted fonts. To do this I need to have only the base System Fonts installed for Windows and the applications that I run. This way if somebody submits a version of Arial (for example), that is a different version, but named the same as my System Font, I can use my client's font, not the System Font. It helps prevent reflow of text, and is the only way to be sure that you are seeing and outputting what the client has seen on their end. We of course proof everything with the client before going to press, but using their specific fonts greatly reduces the chance of reproofing the job, or re-running it. So what I need to know is what fonts are required for Publisher 2003 to run properly on my Win 2k machine. I can't imagine that it really needs the 200 fonts in order to operate. I do like the fact that so many come with the program, but I need to have the option of turning them on and off for specific jobs. I know what the fonts are that Office (and Publisher), and Windows installs. All applications and operating systems have a Base Set that are required. I want to know what Publisher's is. If you have a copy of CorelDraw use Font Navigator to manage your fonts. |
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