Lad, what you do is not debate; and that is why you have not earned my respect.
In fact other MVPs in here often disagree with my largely negative attitude
about Publisher, but the debate has always been civil compared to the
interchange with you.
Call it defense or support, but why do it? If you were a major stockholder, I
could understand it a bit better. And don't be quite so sure you will be here
after I am gone. I am highly motivated to track what goes on in this forum for
a few reasons, and as for your future, who knows?
|| Lad, what you do is not debate; and that is why you have not earned
|| my respect.
I could care less about earning respect from you. *LAST* thing on my mined.
|| In fact other MVPs in here often disagree with my
|| largely negative attitude about Publisher, but the debate has always
|| been civil compared to the interchange with you.
Because they don't debate with you.
|| Call it defense or support, but why do it?
Because it is *impossible* to release software (from ANY company) that
doesn't have bugs or security flaws. It's impossible to satisfy EVERY
consumer with a feature set. Software is written by humans, and humans are
not perfect. Test environments are not perfect. And if someone doesn't like
the new features in a released version, Microsoft offers a 100% money back
guarantee. And you can take THAT to the bank.
|| If you were a major stockholder, I could understand it a bit better.
I am a stockholder. But I also have stock in a competing company.
|| And don't be quite
|| so sure you will be here after I am gone. I am highly motivated to
|| track what goes on in this forum for a few reasons, and as for your
|| future, who knows?
Oh, I am confident of my long term residence here. I have seem many of your
type come and go in the 7 years I have been in these newsgroups. It will be
sad to see you leave as you have the experience with Publisher that we need
in these newsgroups to help others, and it is appreciated. Just be prepared
that I *will* debate with you in these public forums if I don't agree with
your comments. While I don't *own* or *moderate* these newsgroups, I WILL
try to keep the noise down. There is no room for your *publisher* politics.

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analog@logwell.com - 15 Aug 2004 21:55 GMT
I stand by my assertion that you are nothing more than an argumentative jerk,
something you prove every time you open your mouth. All of a sudden I have
valuable experience with Publisher? What I have is a huge amount of wasted time
fighting with M$ over Publisher's bugs with multiple episodes sent to escalation
teams where eventually they threw their hands up. What I have is a 300 page
website stranded in Publisher 2000 because later versions are a disaster. I
will concede I know a great deal about how to trick Publisher into doing what I
want it to do, but that is a sad state of affairs.
Publisher is not suitable for a business website. Publisher does not deal with
HTML as a "native language" as claimed on the 2002 retail package. Even with
all service packs and patches in place, the latest version of Publisher
generates bloated code. Publisher politics? Perhaps, but I will not be happy
un till these issue are addressed, and part of that has to include a reasonable
way to move into another program that will not take scores of hours of code
doctoring. An unreasonable expectation? Give me a break. In any event, these
questions, and many more, are eventually headed to court if the lazy lawyers
ever get their act together.
Syd H. Levine
www.logwell.com
>|| Lad, what you do is not debate; and that is why you have not earned
>|| my respect.
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>your comments. While I don't *own* or *moderate* these newsgroups, I WILL
>try to keep the noise down. There is no room for your *publisher* politics.
Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP] - 16 Aug 2004 01:04 GMT
|| I stand by my assertion that you are nothing more than an
|| argumentative jerk, something you prove every time you open your
|| mouth.
Stopped reading here. This is where I would wash my sons mouth out with
soap.

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JoAnn Paules - 16 Aug 2004 01:53 GMT
Boy, does that bring back bad memories. Let me tell you - Ivory soap tastes
nasty!

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> || I stand by my assertion that you are nothing more than an
> || argumentative jerk, something you prove every time you open your
> || mouth.
>
> Stopped reading here. This is where I would wash my sons mouth out with
> soap.
analog@logwell.com - 16 Aug 2004 06:19 GMT
JoAnn, a sweet thang like you required such punishment? It boggles the mind.
>Boy, does that bring back bad memories. Let me tell you - Ivory soap tastes
>nasty!
JoAnn Paules - 16 Aug 2004 19:18 GMT
I accidently said "sh*t" when I was about 8. It was not a word I normally
used - it honestly just fell out of my mouth. Mom was *not* amused. She made
me go upstairs and get the bar of soap. And after she scraped it on the back
of my top front teeth I had to sit there with that stuff stuck their. ARGH!!
My mouth was waterng but I certainly didn't want to swallow.
I can still taste that damned stuff! And I haven't been able to use Ivory
since - even the smell turns my stomach. :-P

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> JoAnn, a sweet thang like you required such punishment? It boggles the
> mind.
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>>tastes
>>nasty!
tech27 - 16 Aug 2004 21:01 GMT
> I accidently said "sh*t" when I was about 8. It was not a word I normally
> used - it honestly just fell out of my mouth. Mom was *not* amused. She made
> me go upstairs and get the bar of soap. And after she scraped it on the back
> of my top front teeth I had to sit there with that stuff stuck their. ARGH!!
Sounds a little abusive to me. There are much better ways to deal with such
issues than that. Maybe your upbringing explains some of your problems.
> My mouth was waterng but I certainly didn't want to swallow.
I'm sure you've carried that forward through to your adult life.
I can still taste that damned stuff!
Try brushing your teeth.
And I haven't been able to use Ivory
> since - even the smell turns my stomach. :-P
I hope you found another soap you can "stomach". Otherwise you would stink
as bad as the advice you post here.
Have a nice day.
analog@logwell.com - 16 Aug 2004 06:17 GMT
Best not try a stunt like that in this day and time. It will almost certainly
be viewed as child abuse by the authorities. You are an idiot to even say such
a thing in a public forum in this day of political correctness.
Besides, I did not even call you an a.shole(which you certainly are), merely an
argumentative jerk. You would resort to corporal punishment for that? You are
indeed a moron of epic proportions.
>|| I stand by my assertion that you are nothing more than an
>|| argumentative jerk, something you prove every time you open your
>|| mouth.
>
>Stopped reading here. This is where I would wash my sons mouth out with
>soap.