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- 27 Aug 2004 12:08 GMT
I know you have already given generously of your time, but
I have another question. (I should really be studying!)

I have followed the advice on changing link to colour for
mouse-over, changed it to "blue" and "normal", but nothing
happens in the preview. What have I done wrong this time?

Thanks in anticipation.

Elly
David Bartosik MS MVP - 27 Aug 2004 15:01 GMT
The color scheme dialog in Publisher supports a color setting for
"hyperlink" and "followed hyperlink". You'd have to elaborate on the steps
you are taking.

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> Elly
Elly - 27 Aug 2004 15:53 GMT
<style>
a:hover {color: blue; font-weight: normal;}
</style>

Does not work on any of the hyperlinks I have created. It
does work on the code for "back to top". I would really
like to be able to use a mouse-over colour for hotspots,
because I don't always like the underlining on hyperlinks.

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David Bartosik MS MVP - 27 Aug 2004 17:15 GMT
oh you are referring to a CSS snippet.
that will get applied to a textual link you create - ie write text, select
it, and hyperlink it - or in any coded textual links. It will not and cannot
apply to links in a Publisher nav bar.
So I'm guessing it's a nav bar that you say doesn't work.
You can't effect the nav bar with your own CSS.

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Elly - 27 Aug 2004 17:33 GMT
I do not use a pub navigation bar - I create my own, with
the hotspot tool and I would really like the colour of the
text to change on mouse-over.

However, the text hyperlinks don't change with the CSS either.

I am sorry my explanations are not very technical and
require a degree of "translation"! (;-)

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>oh you are referring to a CSS snippet.
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David Bartosik MS MVP - 27 Aug 2004 19:04 GMT
I'd just have to take a look at the pub file.

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analog@logwell.com - 28 Aug 2004 02:13 GMT
Keep in mind that "mouse-over" effects sucketh badly.  Why in the heck do you
want them?  It is an annoying gimmick.  The worst of the genre is where the link
copy or graphic actually changes.  Talk about confuzzling...

>I'd just have to take a look at the pub file.
JoAnn Paules - 28 Aug 2004 03:03 GMT
A lot of people use cheap gimmicks like that to hide the fact that there is
very little content on that page. Worse than mouse-overs are those damned
annoying little trails that follow your cursor. GAWD! I hate those things.
And then it's usually topped off with tinny music. IIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Sorry about that - I had to vent. Back into hiding.

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> Keep in mind that "mouse-over" effects sucketh badly.  Why in the heck do
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analog@logwell.com - 28 Aug 2004 07:36 GMT
Yep, that tinny synthesized music is enuff to drive a person insane.  I have a
weird eye condition called macular edema where things get distorted.  Those
mouse trails make me absolutely furious because I sometimes see crap like that
even when it is not there...I sure don't need it put there for entertainment.

>A lot of people use cheap gimmicks like that to hide the fact that there is
>very little content on that page. Worse than mouse-overs are those damned
>annoying little trails that follow your cursor. GAWD! I hate those things.
>And then it's usually topped off with tinny music. IIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
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>Sorry about that - I had to vent. Back into hiding.
- 28 Aug 2004 09:40 GMT
David, having seen my website, you understand that it does
not lack content, nor does it display fancy bells and
whistles. Particularly in the menu/navigation bar it would
be good if the colour changed from black to blue on
mouse-over, to aid navigation. For anyone else, who might
be able to help and does not mind having a look before
commenting: www.professionalcounselling.co.uk.

Thanks in anticipation.


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JoAnn Paules - 28 Aug 2004 15:30 GMT
I was the one who made the comment about bells and whistles masking a lack
of content. I was not talking about a specific site. I *feel* like I've
surfed about 75% of all of the sites on the web (I've even hit the end of
the Internet site several times) and it seems that the more "fancy features"
that are used, the less real information there is on a site. Sometimes you
hit one of those sites and it has tinny "music", those damned mouse trails,
animated graphics, links to this-that-and the other webring - but nothing
else. What's the point?

Silly me, it just seems if you are going to take the time and effort to
produce a page, let it have *some* value - even if it's just a way to keep
your family up to date with what you've been doing. If I want to be
entertained, I'll pop in a DVD or a nice jazz CD or pick up one of the two
or three books I'm reading at any given point.

BTW, "Devil in the White City" is a very slow read.

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David Bartosik - MS MVP - 29 Aug 2004 00:16 GMT
When underlining is removed from hyperlinks as a design choice it is wise to
replace that with a visual cue such as color change on the hover.
If memory serves me correct I last stated that I would need to review your
pub file in order to attempt to assist you. So if you want my assistance
email me the file.

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Elly - 29 Aug 2004 08:47 GMT
Will do - sorry, I did not understand what you meant with
"looking at the file" - thought it was something on your
own computer!

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David Bartosik - MS MVP - 30 Aug 2004 02:49 GMT
the hover works on the version I sent back to you.
there were a number of things I found wrong...

- the menu was not really text, I believe I'd asked about that earlier. the
menu was actually graphically. Because the text was not hyperlinked, but
rather boxes had been drawn over the text and it was the boxes that were
hyperlinked, the text was never hyperlinked. You can't change text color on
a graphic.
I removed the boxes that overlayed the text. I hyperlinked some of your text
properly as an example.

- the menu was not on the actual pages but rather on the background layer. I
strongly recommend against using the background(master) page on a web
publication. I removed the background page and pasted the header graphic
from the background onto all your pages. I also pasted your menu onto a few
pages. Once your menu is ready you will then copy/paste it on all pages.

- the code snippet used a color name rather then the color hex value. I
corrected it and applied it to the top of page one just above the header
graphic.

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