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Max Patmoy - 09 Nov 2005 18:42 GMT
Dear David,

Please look at this page on my website.
http://www.whitebay.co.nz/pictures/?ea=&m=1100364997522&p=oi I use Publisher
2003 and am a long time fan of the program. Please tell me if I can improve
the quality of the pictures in my gallery. I view them with I.E.6 and have
Photoshop to custom the photos before uploading. The photos start at about
8Mb then I reduce them. The Gallery shows pictures of lavender plants and
clarity is very important.

Thanks very much,

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Yours faithfully
Max Patmoy
Whitebay Group Limited

max@whitebay.co.nz

www.whitebay.co.nz

Max Patmoy - 09 Nov 2005 18:51 GMT
Dear David,

I also wish a reply to this question. WE do not want a pop up. Rather a
small box with information. In my case a small box of information about each
picture on a web page that opens up just by hovering above the picture. I
want to put the "alt" information in the "hover box" . The HTML code must go
something like this ... alt="hover message appears here"

Yours faithfully
Max Patmoy

max@whitebay.co.nz

www.whitebay.co.nz
David Bartosik - 11 Nov 2005 22:26 GMT
Publisher supports image Alt Text.
If you'd gone to the Help menu, and in the Search box typed in

alt text

you would have found this...

Select the picture to which you want to add alternate text.
On the Format menu, click Picture.
Click the Web tab.
Under Alternative text, type text that describes the content of the picture.

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> Dear David,
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> www.whitebay.co.nz 
Max Patmoy - 12 Nov 2005 04:59 GMT
Dear David,

It does not work.

Max Patmoy

> If you'd gone to the Help menu, and in the Search box typed in
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>> www.whitebay.co.nz
DavidF - 12 Nov 2005 14:42 GMT
Max,

In Pub 2000 you select the picture > format > Picture frame properties. At
the bottom you will see where to add your alt text. Are you saying that in
Pub 2003 you found where to add your alt text, but when you preview the
page, the alt text does not show when you hover over the image? If so, try
removing your border on one of the pictures, and see if that works.

And my two bits worth about your images, the colors seem fine, but the focus
or sharpness could be improved. I captured one of your images and used the
Quick Fix in Photoshop Elements to apply the Auto Focus, and noticed an
improvement in the lavender plants. Perhaps work on your original images in
Photoshop.

Alternatively, some have reported here that you get better results if you
write an html link to your original image file and upload the image file
rather then inserting it into the document. Here is a description of the
process. Ignore the reference to Pub 2000:
http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=84

DavidF

> Dear David,
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> >> www.whitebay.co.nz
Max Patmoy - 13 Nov 2005 04:02 GMT
Dear David,

I removed the borders but still no joy. I tried with linked and embedded
images.

Best wishes

Max

Are you saying that in
> Pub 2003 you found where to add your alt text, but when you preview the
> page, the alt text does not show when you hover over the image? If so, try
> removing your border on one of the pictures, and see if that works.
David Bartosik [MSFT MVP] - 14 Nov 2005 20:19 GMT
When the page loaded for me the first image was slow to load and as a result
I could see the alt text was there, as it will display in an image frame
just before the image loads. As to why the mouse hover doesn't display it I
can't say. Fwiw alt text isn't intended to be a visual description of an
image, it's purpose is to be read by a sight impaired browser. I found a
couple of images at the bottom of the page I could get a alt text display on
a mouse hover, so the browser isn't consistent in the mouse hover. You have
so much going on with that page, could be anything that's interfering.

> Dear David,
>
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>> try
>> removing your border on one of the pictures, and see if that works.
Max Patmoy - 15 Nov 2005 18:10 GMT
Dear Group,

Can anyone else help me with this problem?

Thanks
Max
As to why the mouse hover doesn't display it I
> can't say. Fwiw alt text isn't intended to be a visual description of an
> image, it's purpose is to be read by a sight impaired browser. I found a
> couple of images at the bottom of the page I could get a alt text display
> on a mouse hover, so the browser isn't consistent in the mouse hover. You
> have so much going on with that page, could be anything that's
> interfering.

I removed the borders but still no joy.

>> Are you saying that in
Pub 2003 you found where to add your alt text, but when you preview the
page, the alt text does not show when you hover over the image? If so,
try removing your border on one of the pictures, and see if that works.

"David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]"
DavidF - 15 Nov 2005 22:04 GMT
David,

I could see the alt text as the images loaded as you said. However, I was
not able to get any alt text to display on any images on his site. I am
wondering if this is tied into the no-right click coding in Pub 2003?
Perhaps I am just showing my ignorance of coding ;-)

DavidF

> When the page loaded for me the first image was slow to load and as a result
> I could see the alt text was there, as it will display in an image frame
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> >> try
> >> removing your border on one of the pictures, and see if that works.
Max Patmoy - 16 Nov 2005 18:44 GMT
Dear David,

Shame there is no happy ending with this problem. I will watch the Group in
case anyone stumbles over the solution. Does Publisher 2003 have this
feature and do mouseovers occur on other people's (2003) sites? Perhaps the
answer is in my settings somewhere?

Max

> David,
>
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>> >> try
>> >> removing your border on one of the pictures, and see if that works.
David Bartosik [MSFT MVP] - 16 Nov 2005 19:21 GMT
Did I happen to explain what ALT text is actually for?

I have to be frank and state that I can't grasp why you are spending so much
time on this. Nobody is going to sit there and mouseover all your images. If
you want a description on your images then give the image a caption.

I'll reiterate that since the alt text is present I do not believe this is a
Publisher issue, but rather a browser issue. That page is overloaded with
scripts, any one of which could be interfering with the browser behavior.

If this topic is mission critical to you then what you need to do is test
this issue and see where you can reproduce it, and then learn from that.

How do you test? Start by creating a new blank web publication and recreate
the image, and only the image, and then publish it and view it. Do you get
the desired results, or not? If yes, then add a script or other object to
the page, and publish and view again. Repeat this process until you can
repro it. If no then try modifications to the image and test each one.
Optionally you can take a copy of the existing web publication and pull
items off of it, one at a time, publishing and viewing after each item, to
see if the results change because you removed an item or items.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

> Dear David,
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>
> Max
Max Patmoy - 12 Nov 2005 05:01 GMT
Dear David,

Please look at this page on my website.
http://www.whitebay.co.nz/pictures/?ea=&m=1100364997522&p=oi I use
Publisher
2003 and am a long time fan of the program. Please tell me if I can improve
the quality of the pictures in my gallery. I view them with I.E.6 and have
Photoshop to custom the photos before uploading. The photos start at about
8Mb then I reduce them. The Gallery shows pictures of lavender plants and
clarity is very important.

Thanks very much,

Yours faithfully
Max Patmoy
Whitebay Group Limited

max@whitebay.co.nz
www.whitebay.co.nz

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