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MS Office Forum / Publisher / Web Design / November 2005Publishing problem
I've created a website for a friend. My friend registered a domain name herself. Trouble is I don't think she actually ordered webspace! It looks like she did but the order actually says 5mb (mailbox). I will have to clarify what all that menas with lycos. I mean why do you need that amount of space for a mailbox?! I'm confused. Anyway, until that is all sorted out I had an idea. What I've done is use the webpointing feature of her package (it does have that, at least) to redirect people visiting her site to my free web space with my provider (where I've placed her site). This seems to work absolutely fine when you view the site with Firefox. The redirect thing works like a dream. However, when you try to view the site with Internet Explorer you can only see the home page (index.html). The navigation bar won't load the other pages. I can't understand why this is the case in one browser and not another. Can anybody offer an explanation? By the way, I've chosen the option in Publisher NOT to group all the pages in a folder other than the first page. So all the pages are individual. Also, what is the best place to read all about hosting websites etc? I'm UK based. Any help, advice gratefully received! C Tate, 1. A 5 meg mailbox is actually kind of small by today standards. Gmail from Google offers over 2.5 gigs! With all the email and spam received these days it takes no time to fill 5 megs, and from that point any message sent to that mailbox is bounced back to the sender. 2. Are you sure you don't have it backwards? Assuming that you are using Pub 2003 to produce your website, it is designed to work best with IE, and will frequently exhibit the issues you describe with other browsers, including Firefox. If you post the URL then perhaps someone here can take a look at it and see what the problem is. 3. Google is your friend...as is Lycos. But if you want to skip that and want a good referral for an inexpensive and dependable hosting service, then go to David Bartosik's site (the resident MVP): www.davidbartosik.com DavidF > I've created a website for a friend. My friend registered a domain name > herself. Trouble is I don't think she actually ordered webspace! It looks [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Any help, advice gratefully received! I believe I have this on the FAQ, http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 I'm sure you are framing the site. (View source, see Framesets) Framing breaks the relative hyperlinks that Publisher uses for most of it's coding, such as in the menu created with the nav bar wizard. Don't frame the site, problem fixed. or Manually use absolute links versus the relative links, problem fixed. Publisher writes some complex logic in it's code that includes identifying the browser, if it's IE then the browser gets Publisher's VML and other more "advanced" logic. Non IE browsers get some "dumber" logic (though not always dumb enough). Firefox is getting a different menu bar then IE does, with absolute links even. Hence the different results. David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP] www.publishermvps.com www.davidbartosik.com >C Tate, > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >> >> Any help, advice gratefully received! OK. I think David B is right. When I view source it does appear there is a frameset. I've checked the FAQs and read what they have to say on the issue. What I am not clear about is how I now go about changing this now that I've built the site (using the navbar wizard!). Is it easy to go back and change the links by hand? I don't have a clue how to do that. I'm a total newbie at this I'm afraid so idiot-style instructions are best for me! As for DavidF's comments I'm not sure about lycos being my friend <g>. I think their material is very unclear. I'm not at all clear on what my friend has actually ordered from them apart from the domain name (despite having studied all their emails/literature). She appears to have this mailbox thing which is 5mb but what's that for? They say it's webspace. Does this mean I can upload the site there? I've asked the help people to clarify but no answer as yet. If I could put the site into the webspace we thought we'd ordered, there would be no need for the redirecting business and maybe then the links would work! >I believe I have this on the FAQ, >http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] >>> >>> Any help, advice gratefully received! duh, of course I'm right, that's why I make the big bucks. your best options: 1) publish to a real host 2) drop the masked URL, use a straight redirect David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP] www.publishermvps.com www.davidbartosik.com > OK. I think David B is right. When I view source it does appear there is a > frameset. I forgot to say, the url is www.rosslynalternatives.co.uk. I have set things to a 'cloaked' redirect so you shouldn't know it's happening (sneaky eh?!). Don't blame me for the clipart. The client chose it all and the client knows best! >I believe I have this on the FAQ, >http://www.publishermvps.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30 [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] >>> >>> Any help, advice gratefully received! Not at all, it takes less then a second to view source and see the real address is http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/rosslynalts/index.html Visit the real site and the links work fine. What you call cloaking is just the technique of masking a URL by framing it. You can frame any web site. (you can get in trouble for that) The framing breaks the relative links. The proper cure is to use an actual host. If a business is serious enough about it's business to buy a domain name then it should be serious enough to buy a host. Hosting can be had for $80 at http://www.webhost4life.com/default.asp?refid=pubmvps David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP] www.publishermvps.com www.davidbartosik.com >I forgot to say, the url is www.rosslynalternatives.co.uk. I have set >things to a 'cloaked' redirect so you shouldn't know it's happening (sneaky >eh?!). Thanks for your help with this. I've removed the hidden redirect and it works ok. This will do until I can get an actual host sorted out. I'm not sure the one you mentioned would be suitable for us as we're based in the UK. Don't know if that matters or not. My friend registered with Lycos and they will host it for a similar fee. I didn't reckon it would cost that amount. It's a very small website - just to give her a presence - and she'll probably want to keep costs to an absolute minimum. > Not at all, it takes less then a second to view source and see the real > address is [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>things to a 'cloaked' redirect so you shouldn't know it's happening >>(sneaky eh?!). |
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