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John - 06 Dec 2005 10:34 GMT
Previously I had wrote -
"All the images that were being used for my web site,
jewelleryonthenet.com.au, in the publisher "home page_files" folder have
gone, missing, awol.
The text contant of each page was still in the folder.  When you opened the
file, home page, the text and Nav bar and Buy Now links were there but the
images were gone.  Only a dotted outline box with a red cross in it was left.
 Picture Manager still showed the details re image titles and the page it
was supposed to be on but there was no info re size etc..
I have re inserted the images and hopefully it wont happen again.
McAffe hasn't pick up any virus etc..  So I'm at a loss to know what happened.
Any help would be appreciated,  Hope this is clearer than the mud I seemed
to write before.  Thanks Guys and Gals"

The above last post when I first asked confussed a few people and I didn't
get a helpful reply.  It may be Im not explaining it too well.
But its all happening again.  The images in the home_page folder on my PC
are disappearing.  This time I have caught it when about 3/4s of the images
had gone.

The web site is OK, jewelleryonthenet.com.au.  Its the Publisher folder on
my PC that is having the problems???  I have backed up on a flash drive and
they hold there.  Any help would be appreciated.
David Bartosik - 06 Dec 2005 16:00 GMT
I assume that I'm not alone here in having no clue what you're saying. Then
or now. There are just too many huge holes in your post. Since you evidently
don't know how to redo it, I'll just try to break it down into pieces to
tackle separately....

> "John" wrote:
> Previously I had wrote -
> "All the images that were being used for my web site,
> jewelleryonthenet.com.au, in the publisher "home page_files" folder have
> gone, missing, awol.

What version of Publisher is being used? What is this folder you speak of?
Version 2003 will create an "index_files" folder if using the subfolder
option. I know of no homepagefiles folder. This folder you speak of, did
Publisher create it or you? Where is this folder? Are you speaking of a
folder on the web server or on your local PC? These images you speak of, are
they Publisher generated images or are they your original images? Did you put
the images in the folder or did Publisher? Are the images still in the
Publisher web publication file?

> The text contant of each page was still in the folder.  When you opened the
> file, home page, the text and Nav bar and Buy Now links were there but the
> images were gone.  Only a dotted outline box with a red cross in it was left.

Text content is in the folder. Huh? You mean the folder contains only the
htm files? Publisher generates htm files which would have "content" (coded in
the html), it also generates image files, so you have both image files and
htm files. I can only assume you are referring to opening the file
"index.htm"? Are you speaking of opening it locally in your browser or our
you speaking of opening it and viewing it on the web site online? The red X
simply means the browser did not locate the image at the path specified in
the html.

>   Picture Manager still showed the details re image titles and the page it
> was supposed to be on but there was no info re size etc..

Picture Manager was introduced in version 2003 of Office so I guess I can
assume you are using Pub 2003. But what does this statement have to do with
Publisher? It is used to manage image files in the My Pictures folder and is
a simple picture editor. Are you saying that the original images are intact
in your My Pictures folder and you can view them in Picture Manager? I don't
get the relevance of this paragraph.

> I have re inserted the images and hopefully it wont happen again.

I don't even know what "it" is. Reinserted images? Where? Into the Publisher
file? Into a mystery file? On your web server? Into Uncle Bobby's scrap book?
I don't know what, where, or why.

> McAffe hasn't pick up any virus etc..  So I'm at a loss to know what happened.
> Any help would be appreciated,  Hope this is clearer than the mud I seemed
> to write before.  Thanks Guys and Gals"

There are viruses that are intended to go thru the infected host hard drive
and delete all image files. I however have no clue if you are saying that
image files on your local pc are gone. FWIW, I've been here about 5 years and
I think this is the deepest vaguest mud I've seen yet. But at least I'm
trying.

> The above last post when I first asked confussed a few people and I didn't
> get a helpful reply.  It may be Im not explaining it too well.
> But its all happening again.  The images in the home_page folder on my PC
> are disappearing.  This time I have caught it when about 3/4s of the images
> had gone.

So images in a folder on your local PC are gone. Ok, so what is this folder?
What does it have to do with Publisher (version?) ? Are saving a Publisher
web publication locally first and then copying it to the server? If so why?
Publishing instructions are at I assume that I'm not alone here in having no
clue what you're saying. Then or now. There are just too many huge holes in
your post. Since you evidently don't know how to redo it, I'll just try to
break it down into pieces to tackle separately....

> "John" wrote:
> Previously I had wrote -
> "All the images that were being used for my web site,
> jewelleryonthenet.com.au, in the publisher "home page_files" folder have
> gone, missing, awol.

What version of Publisher is being used? What is this folder you speak of?
Version 2003 will create an "index_files" folder if using the subfolder
option. I know of no homepagefiles folder. This folder you speak of, did
Publisher create it or you? Where is this folder? Are you speaking of a
folder on the web server or on your local PC? These images you speak of, are
they Publisher generated images or are they your original images? Did you put
the images in the folder or did Publisher? Are the images still in the
Publisher web publication file?

> The text contant of each page was still in the folder.  When you opened the
> file, home page, the text and Nav bar and Buy Now links were there but the
> images were gone.  Only a dotted outline box with a red cross in it was left.

Text content is in the folder. Huh? You mean the folder contains only the
htm files? Publisher generates htm files which would have "content" (coded in
the html), it also generates image files, so you have both image files and
htm files. I can only assume you are referring to opening the file
"index.htm"? Are you speaking of opening it locally in your browser or our
you speaking of opening it and viewing it on the web site online? The red X
simply means the browser did not locate the image at the path specified in
the html.

>   Picture Manager still showed the details re image titles and the page it
> was supposed to be on but there was no info re size etc..

Picture Manager was introduced in version 2003 of Office so I guess I can
assume you are using Pub 2003. But what does this statement have to do with
Publisher? It is used to manage image files in the My Pictures folder and is
a simple picture editor. Are you saying that the original images are intact
in your My Pictures folder and you can view them in Picture Manager? I don't
get the relevance of this paragraph.

> I have re inserted the images and hopefully it wont happen again.

I don't even know what "it" is. Reinserted images? Where? Into the Publisher
file? Into a mystery file? On your web server? Into Uncle Bobby's scrap book?
I don't know what, where, or why.

> McAffe hasn't pick up any virus etc..  So I'm at a loss to know what happened.
> Any help would be appreciated,  Hope this is clearer than the mud I seemed
> to write before.  Thanks Guys and Gals"

There are viruses that are intended to go thru the infected host hard drive
and delete all image files. I however have no clue if you are saying that
image files on your local pc are gone. FWIW, I've been here about 5 years and
I think this is the deepest vaguest mud I've seen yet.

> The above last post when I first asked confussed a few people and I didn't
> get a helpful reply.  It may be Im not explaining it too well.
> But its all happening again.  The images in the home_page folder on my PC
> are disappearing.  This time I have caught it when about 3/4s of the images
> had gone.

Ok, so image files on your PC are missing. Wouldn't this be a bigger issue
then using Publisher? What is this folder? How does this relate to Publisher?

> The web site is OK, jewelleryonthenet.com.au.  Its the Publisher folder on
> my PC that is having the problems???  I have backed up on a flash drive and
> they hold there.  Any help would be appreciated.

Are you saving the Publisher web publication as a web to your local PC and
then copying that to the web server? If so why? Publishing directions are
available at
http://www.publishermvps.com/WebDesign/Version2003/tabid/33/Default.aspx  The
directions explain using Publisher to publish directly to the server. There
is no reason to maintain local copies of the site files since the site is
self-contained in the Publisher file. You only need to keep the Pub file on
hand locally. The Publisher file is the only thing that should be backed up.
There is no reason to backup the site files, since you can open the pub file
and generate the site files at any time.

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DavidF - 06 Dec 2005 16:25 GMT
Whew! Yes, the OP's description of the problem was clear as mud to me, but
<g>, now you have asked your clarifying questions twice, in most cases. Do
you want them answered twice? <g> Seriously, thanks for taking this on...I
was another that could not figure out what the OP was asking about.

DavidF

> I assume that I'm not alone here in having no clue what you're saying. Then
> or now. There are just too many huge holes in your post. Since you evidently
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> http://www.davidbartosik.com
David Bartosik [MSFT MVP] - 06 Dec 2005 19:29 GMT
hmm, that's odd. I was in the web reader doing that one. guess it hiccupped.
for this one I'm in NNTP ;-)

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

> Whew! Yes, the OP's description of the problem was clear as mud to me, but
> <g>, now you have asked your clarifying questions twice, in most cases. Do
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>> http://www.davidbartosik.com
John - 07 Dec 2005 01:28 GMT
Guys and Gals
I would like to know how or why my images are disappearing.  I save the file
and when next opened the images are gone.  I have replaced the images once
before and they still vanish a few days later.

> hmm, that's odd. I was in the web reader doing that one. guess it hiccupped.
> for this one I'm in NNTP ;-)
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> >> http://www.publishermvps.com
> >> http://www.davidbartosik.com
David Bartosik - 07 Dec 2005 19:55 GMT
So if I am grasping your issue it is... that when you open your pub file it
does not display images.
(so you should have just stated "when I open my pub file the images don't
display")
In that event start with the obvious. Go to View, Pictures, and find out if
you are toggling Hide Pictures on and off.

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David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

> Guys and Gals
> I would like to know how or why my images are disappearing.  I save the file
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> > >> http://www.publishermvps.com
> > >> http://www.davidbartosik.com
John - 11 Dec 2005 06:55 GMT
David,

Done the View, pictures that doesn't change any thing.
If I go Tools, Graphics Mgr,  The name of the picture is there and the
location but there are no details.  If I look in the pub file that holds the
images, in my case on my PC, Home page_files(file folder) the images are not
there - gone.
All my images are jpeg.  Ihave used Picture Mgr to size them first.  Then
when embedded on my web pages I right click and use "format picture" to go to
size to unclick, lock aspect ratio.  Design checker always brings this up as
something I should do.  I do drag the images around and size then to the
postion I want them in.
I then go to, Compress pictures, select, All pictures in document,
web/screen, and in options check-Compress pictures  & Delete cropped areas of
pictures.
Then I save.  Publish to the web,  Check the web that the site is running
and the changes are on the site, close and it's time for bed.
Please ehlp it is still happening and I have just found that even the backup
copies are not holding the images.
John

> So if I am grasping your issue it is... that when you open your pub file it
> does not display images.
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> > > >> http://www.davidbartosik.com
DavidF - 11 Dec 2005 13:12 GMT
Excuse me for jumping back in here, but did you follow Mary's advice about
checking for a new version of your video driver? Checking for a problem with
your video driver is the next step you should take.

First right click your desktop and select Properties (or Control panel
>Display). On the Display Properties screen > Settings tab > Advanced button
> Troubleshoot tab. Then slide the Hardware acceleration down about three
notches > OK. If this solves your problem, go to the manufacturer's web site
and look around for an updated graphics driver. To find your driver version
go to Advanced button as above > Adapter tab > Properties button > Driver
Tab.

DavidF

> David,
>
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> > > > >> then copying that to the web server? If so why? Publishing directions are
> > > > >> available at

http://www.publishermvps.com/WebDesign/Version2003/tabid/33/Default.aspx
> > > > > The
> > > > >> directions explain using Publisher to publish directly to the server.
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> > > > >> http://www.publishermvps.com
> > > > >> http://www.davidbartosik.com
John - 13 Dec 2005 07:19 GMT
DavidF

Thanks for jumping in but,  I have tried that and that isn't the problem.  
At times only half the images are gone,  also missing from the file folder,
the next day more are gone and so on.  I have just done a full reinstall on
my hard drive and have ,once again, rebiult my site. Got it down to 2 hrs
now.  I,ll see if the images are still disapearing.
Any one else got any suggestions.

Regards
John from OZ

> Excuse me for jumping back in here, but did you follow Mary's advice about
> checking for a new version of your video driver? Checking for a problem with
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> > > > > > the
> > > > > >> > images were gone.  Only a dotted outline box with a red cross
John - 07 Dec 2005 01:36 GMT
David - Publisher 03, On my PC it is home_page, when uploaded yes its
index_files, The folder is on my desk top,  I took the images and placed then
in My Pictures then edited them before inserting into the Publisher web page.
I then also used the Publisher funtion to resize all images for web
publishing.  When saved the images are in the publisher folder doubled up as
is publishers way.  The web site on the WWW is fine its the web publication
file on my PC that appears to be the problem

> hmm, that's odd. I was in the web reader doing that one. guess it hiccupped.
> for this one I'm in NNTP ;-)
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> >> http://www.publishermvps.com
> >> http://www.davidbartosik.com
Mary Sauer - 07 Dec 2005 12:17 GMT
Have you considered upgrading your video driver?

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> David - Publisher 03, On my PC it is home_page, when uploaded yes its
> index_files, The folder is on my desk top,  I took the images and placed then
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>> >> http://www.davidbartosik.com
Patrick - 07 Dec 2005 21:52 GMT
John, I am wondering if I have the same problem.  I also lose all my images
after saving my publisher document.  I have found that if I bring up another
window and pass it over the publisher window I am able to "Paint" the images
back in.  it is strange but does not answer the question of what the problems
is or how to fix it.  

> Previously I had wrote -
> "All the images that were being used for my web site,
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> my PC that is having the problems???  I have backed up on a flash drive and
> they hold there.  Any help would be appreciated.
John - 08 Dec 2005 02:02 GMT
Not being a computer guru I have trouble using the exact terminology that can
clear the mud.  It is not that the images are even there any more to viewin
that web page file.  The file that holds all the content of the web pages.  
(The one people notice has a double set of image files created etc..) The
images are GONE.  How is this happening?  How do I stop it happening?  All I
do is edit and update the web pages SAVE it and then close.  The next day I
open it and the images are GONE??  If I open another similar file the images
are there for that file.  If I reload a saved/backup  version of the same web
pages from a CD etc the images are still there.  Only the copy on my desk top
appears to be effected?? Why How When AAAAARRRRHHHH!!

> John, I am wondering if I have the same problem.  I also lose all my images
> after saving my publisher document.  I have found that if I bring up another
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> > my PC that is having the problems???  I have backed up on a flash drive and
> > they hold there.  Any help would be appreciated.
 
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