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sorochan - 18 Feb 2006 02:45 GMT
Made a small 3 page web site with Publisher, www.sorochan.com and the images
show fine in firefox but only get the red x in explorer.  Opening the site
locally off my computer it displays the images in explorer. I noticed if I
enter my site at validator.w3.org I get all sorts of errors . The first one
saying "This page is not Valid (no Doctype found)!" which sounds sort of
serious. I'm not sure if that is related or not. Searched this forum and
found other people with the same or similar problems but no real soulutions.
Any ideas? Thanks.
David Bartosik - 18 Feb 2006 07:12 GMT
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> Made a small 3 page web site with Publisher, www.sorochan.com and the images
> show fine in firefox but only get the red x in explorer.

if you look in the index_files directory you will find multiple
copies/versions of each image. Which image file gets loaded is dependent on
the browser used, meaning different browsers use different image files. Which
means your statement is comparing kiwis to grapes.

> Opening the site
> locally off my computer it displays the images in explorer.

comparing your local environment to the web server, um, let's say candy corn
to pizza.

> I noticed if I
> enter my site at validator.w3.org I get all sorts of errors . The first one
> saying "This page is not Valid (no Doctype found)!" which sounds sort of
> serious. I'm not sure if that is related or not.

Not related. Not relevant. Order a pizza instead ;-)

> Searched this forum and
> found other people with the same or similar problems but no real soulutions.
> Any ideas? Thanks.

tell your web host support that your account has a directory permissions
problem. I look at the source code of your web page using IE and find an
image file it's loading - for example - image741.jpg, and I type that URL to
access it directly - http://www.sorochan.com/index_files/image741.jpg -  and
the result is a 403 error. Which your web host is nice enough (NOT!) to
inform you of if you can read at supersonic speeds.

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sorochan - 18 Feb 2006 14:57 GMT
Hotlinking is not allowed at my host which is what you tried to do by
accessing  a image directly, http://www.sorochan.com/index_files/image741.jpg 
Could that be the problem?
sorochan - 18 Feb 2006 16:57 GMT
> Hotlinking is not allowed at my host which is what you tried to do by
> accessing  a image directly, http://www.sorochan.com/index_files/image741.jpg 
> Could that be the problem?
>  Checking again I can access this file  http://www.sorochan.com/index_files/image741.jpg  with Firefox but not with Explorer
sorochan - 18 Feb 2006 17:03 GMT
> > Hotlinking is not allowed at my host which is what you tried to do by
> > accessing  a image directly, http://www.sorochan.com/index_files/image741.jpg 
> > Could that be the problem?
> >  Checking again I can access this file  http://www.sorochan.com/index_files/image741.jpg  with Firefox but not with Explorer

Checked again, can't access with Firefox now, only the first time I tried
it. Very strange.
David Bartosik [MSFT MVP] - 18 Feb 2006 18:42 GMT
I think it's a server side host issue. Do you have a free web space or other
hosting source you can use temporarily? I'd recommend loading to another
host and see if you can repro the issue.

David Bartosik MSFT MVP
www.davidbartosik.com

>> > Hotlinking is not allowed at my host which is what you tried to do by
>> > accessing  a image directly,
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> Checked again, can't access with Firefox now, only the first time I tried
> it. Very strange.
sorochan - 18 Feb 2006 19:13 GMT
I uploaded it somewhere else and it works fine so I guess it is a server
problem. Thanks for the help.
sorochan - 19 Feb 2006 17:22 GMT
This was posted in my web hosts help forum

"We certainly understand that it could be very annoying not to see the
images on your web site hosted with us.

Yet the simple resolution is to turn off the firewall on you computer!

The problem is caused by the hotlinking protection system we have applied
for all images after the numerous traffic abuses!

Unfortunately the computer firewalls are blocking some of the parameters our
system is seeking to validate the open files are really placed on a web page
hosted with us."

Turning off my firewall doesn't make any difference, not much of a solution
regardless. Is there a way to add code and change the  html code slightly at
my web site so that images will show in explorer? Or do I have to start from
scratch? Thanks
DavidF - 19 Feb 2006 18:21 GMT
Perhaps go to Tools > Options > Web Options and uncheck Organize supporting
files in a folder. It probably won't make any difference, but won't take
long to test.

DavidF

> This was posted in my web hosts help forum
>
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> my web site so that images will show in explorer? Or do I have to start from
> scratch? Thanks
sorochan - 19 Feb 2006 18:50 GMT
> Perhaps go to Tools > Options > Web Options and uncheck Organize supporting
> files in a folder. It probably won't make any difference, but won't take
> long to test.
>
> DavidF

Tried it , didn't make a difference, thanks anyways.

Dan
DavidF - 19 Feb 2006 18:56 GMT
Did you contact your host about how to deal with this? If they won't
accommodate you, perhaps find a new host.

DavidF

> > Perhaps go to Tools > Options > Web Options and uncheck Organize supporting
> > files in a folder. It probably won't make any difference, but won't take
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Dan
sorochan - 20 Feb 2006 19:55 GMT
Redid my site using Frontpage. Images work now.
DavidF - 20 Feb 2006 21:41 GMT
Thanks for posting back. You will probably be happier in the long run with
FrontPage...

DavidF

> Redid my site using Frontpage. Images work now.

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