MS Office Forum / Publisher / Web Design / March 2006
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Princess - 18 Mar 2006 10:55 GMT I have set up a web site from scratch with a navigation bar on each page. I can't get the home page to come up first then have the other links follow in a requested order. From left to right they are in order, from right to left they are jumbled. The colour format did not work for my 'followed hyperlinks' either so l dont know what page l am on either. How can l stabilise home page link and have others follow as they should be?
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DavidF - 18 Mar 2006 23:36 GMT I have read your question several times, but still don't understand what you are asking. Web pages are not linear...they can be in any order. Are you talking about your Publisher file, or your web pages? Please explain left to right...right to left...those words don't fit with web pages???? Perhaps you are wanting to reorder the links on your navbar (from Help): You can change the order in which links appear on a navigation bar. If you reorder links on the navigation bar, it will not change the actual order of pages in your Web publication. Similarly, if you move the pages in your publication, it will not reorder the corresponding links on the navigation bar.
1.. Select the navigation bar that you want to change. 2.. On the Format menu, click Navigation Bar Properties, and then click the General tab. 3.. Under Links, click the link that you want to move, and then click either Move Up or Move Down to move the link. 4.. Repeat step 3 until all of the links are arranged in the order that you want, and then click OK.
As per your "followed hyperlinks", perhaps you have misunderstood the concept. Once you publish your site, and use a link once, then it changes color to the "followed" color, or in other words, you "followed" that link. It does not change color as to which page you are on. I believe that some of the navbars in Pub 2003 do show a highlight of sorts on the button when you are on that page, but that is not affected by the "followed hyperlinks".
If I guessed wrong, please rephrase your question about your navbar, and we will try to help.
DavidF
> I have set up a web site from scratch with a navigation bar on each page. I > can't get the home page to come up first then have the other links follow in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > -- > Princess Princess - 23 Mar 2006 01:16 GMT Hi David. When l click on the links from left to right they show the right page with the corresponding link. If l click from the right side of page(link) and continue to click links across, the pages do not match the links .eg. the 'contact us' link will reveal the 'home' page and so on.
I am talking about my web pages that are designed in Publisher, but not using a wizard, just my own design starting on a blank sheet. Each of these are separate pages with my business logo on the top of each one.l did not use a master page as each of my pages are different lengths with a frame around each one. In effect,the links are not staying with the matched pages like normal. Regardless of where I click the corresponding page should show i would have thought. I inserted a nav bar on each page as they suggest for separate page, so l figured they should all relate to each other?
I have downloaded service pack 1&2 for publisher off MS website to see if that helped and it didn't. I have reordered the links several times and tried various things but it won't stabilise. Hope this helps makes things a bit clearer. Thanks for the tip on hyperlink colours, l didn't realise they only worked after publishing to the web. Princess
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> I have read your question several times, but still don't understand what you > are asking. Web pages are not linear...they can be in any order. Are you [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > -- > > Princess DavidF - 23 Mar 2006 02:12 GMT I'm sorry, but it still isn't clear to me what in the world you are doing. Some questions: Are all your pages in one Pub document? Have you created more than one navbar, where one works correctly, and the other doesn't? Is this the left to right, right to left stuff? Is this when you are previewing the webpage, or are you talking about the status bar at the bottom of the Pub document? Is your page actually posted...if so, what is the URL? Have you run the design checker?
I still can't get my head around this left to right stuff. If your navbar is created correctly, it should not matter which button or link you click, in what order. That link if written correctly should take you to the correct page. If a button is labeled as 'contact us', but it takes you to your 'home' page, then the link is incorrectly written. Did the instructions I included about how to reorder your links in your navbar address your situation?
Post back with answers to the questions above, and maybe I will understand. In the meantime, it probably is not helping that you "have a frame around each page"??? If you have a multipage Publisher web document, all the pages are by default, one length: 4,608 pixels. However, when you publish your site, Publisher will automatically shorten your page to just beyond the last element on the page. If you have a page with content that covers 4,000 pixels of the length, then that will be the length of the resulting page. If you have a page with content that only covers 150 pixels, that will the length of the published page. You do not draw a frame around a page to change the length, nor do you even have to create more than one Pub doc to accommodate pages of different lengths...that is automatically done in Pub 2003 (not 2002).
DavidF
> Hi David. When l click on the links from left to right they show the right > page with the corresponding link. If l click from the right side of [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > > -- > > > Princess Princess - 23 Mar 2006 03:44 GMT Hi David. I have designed my web site within publisher using a separate page for each subject eg: home, about us, the team etc. I have 7 links. No, l have not published this to the web yet therefore have no URL. When i preview the website the links are still not matching the pages when l click from the right to left, but are in order from left to right when clicked on.
I have put a navigation bar on each page all with the same links, so they should match each other l would think. Maybe the problem is in the fact that l should have one master page with one nav bar and then have the information for other pages fall in underneath that master page.
I thought that if you use a master page it has set perimeters that you work within eg: page length,width etc. so l designed mine with separate pages to accomodate varying lengths etc.
There is a website called www.onlylunch.com that you can view. Click on the links and view all the pages. This is how mine looks, only l cant get the links working properly. You will see the layout with the borders around each page.
All of my pages are in the one document. When creating the site l just kept inserting a new page and created my layout on each one and then put the nav bar on each page. I used insert nav bar from exisiting webpage and that put the same nav bar on each page as it was copied across to each page. i know its a bit confusing. I may have to start the whole thing again using a master page, but l have put all the work in to this site and really don't want to start again.
I have reordered the links several times in format nav bars to no avail. i think there is something wrong in the set up of the actual nav bar with separate pages, but l still have no idea how to correct it. There are no trainers in Cairns where l live (no, they were not blown away in the Cyclone) , only townsville, and one person suggested l use front page, but l don't really need something so involved.
Hope this info hepls some more, so see what you think after previewing the other website.Thank heaps, appreciate your feedback. Princess.
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> I'm sorry, but it still isn't clear to me what in the world you are doing. > Some questions: [quoted text clipped - 118 lines] > > > > -- > > > > Princess Princess - 23 Mar 2006 03:48 GMT  Signature Princess
> Hi David. I have designed my web site within publisher using a separate page > for each subject eg: home, about us, the team etc. I have 7 links. No, l have [quoted text clipped - 157 lines] > > > > > -- > > > > > Princess DavidF - 23 Mar 2006 04:20 GMT Ok, first of all if you are using a master page, then that might be the root of your problems. The master page is for print docs only, as it messes up links in a web page. So before I go on with other possible problems, if you are using a master page, then redo your pages and put all the content on the page. If you want to create a look like the sample you included then read the article about Background Padding for some ideas: http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/articles/category/1922.aspx
If you aren't using a master page, then post back and this time tell me which version of Publisher you are using...and I'll offer some other solutions about fixing your navbar.
DavidF
> Hi David. I have designed my web site within publisher using a separate page > for each subject eg: home, about us, the team etc. I have 7 links. No, l have [quoted text clipped - 159 lines] > > > > > -- > > > > > Princess Princess - 23 Mar 2006 04:57 GMT I am using Publisher 2003 within MS Office Pro on a Windows XP PRO platform.
I have not used a master page. All of my pages are just separate pages eg: one page for 'home', one for 'about us', one for 'the team' etc. The other thing i should mention is that l wanted to have my nav bar names without the arrow next to it, but this seem to be part of the nav bar for publisher, it would not allow me to delete the arrow.
I have changed the text to look like the site you viewed, only l have a white arrow next to each link. Do you know if i can remove the arrow just to have plain text? i also notice that my 'home' link is slightly out of alignment with the others on the nav bar and l cant get that aligned either, 'home' could be the problem. Hope this info helps. Thanks. Princess
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> Ok, first of all if you are using a master page, then that might be the root > of your problems. The master page is for print docs only, as it messes up [quoted text clipped - 228 lines] > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Princess DavidF - 23 Mar 2006 15:30 GMT Princess,
I think that you would be best off replacing your navbar, and this is fairly easy with Pub 2003. First of all do a Save As and make a new copy of your Pub file to work on, so you can save your original.
Select each navbar on each page and either go to Edit > Delete Object, or just cut. Then make sure your pages are in the order that you want them to appear on your navbar. Then 1.. On the Insert menu, point to Navigation Bar, and then click New. 2.. In the Design Gallery dialog box, on the Objects by Category tab, click the navigation bar design that you want. If you don't like the arrow on your old design, then choose a different design, but you cannot change the different designs. 3.. Click Insert Object. 4.. In the Create New Navigation Bar dialog box, type a name for the navigation bar in the Name box, or let it use the default. 5.. Under Insert Options, choose Insert on every page. 6.. Under Automatic update, select Update this navigation bar with links to existing pages in the publication, and then click OK. Then assuming that you are using a horizontal navbar, you can change the orientation: 1.. Select the navigation bar that you want to change. 2.. On the Format menu, click Navigation Bar Properties, and then click the Style tab. 3.. Under Orientation and alignment, do one of the following: a.. To select a vertical navigation bar, click Vertical (column of hyperlinks). b.. To select a horizontal navigation bar, click Horizontal (row of hyperlinks). Then drag your new navbars into place on each page, and do a web preview to test.
Good luck...DavidF
> I am using Publisher 2003 within MS Office Pro on a Windows XP PRO platform. > [quoted text clipped - 246 lines] > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Princess Princess - 28 Mar 2006 13:53 GMT David F,
Thanks for the advice on replacing the nav bar. finally now l can create a web site with the know how on the nav bar situation. I followed your instructions and it worked perfectly. The site looks great and is now ready to be published to the web once l am ready to launch the business. Thanks so much for you patience in helping me get this sorted. If l have any other problems, l will let you know. (I'm still green)
Kind regards, Princess.
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> Princess, > [quoted text clipped - 280 lines] > > > > > you > > > > > > > reorder links on the navigation bar, it will not change the DavidF - 28 Mar 2006 14:02 GMT Princess,
Thanks for posting back. The feedback is always appreciated...especially if it is good news! I am glad things worked out for you.
DavidF
> David F, > [quoted text clipped - 294 lines] > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > reorder links on the navigation bar, it will not change the
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