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deech - 15 Jun 2006 01:59 GMT I’m building a site. When I do the Web Page Preview, it allows me to “Edit with MS Office Word” in the “File” menu. This is great as it allows me do “Borders and Shading” to text as I am wishing, and it also retains the navigation bar.
I am able to save these changes as an html file on my computer, however there is no change to the original Publisher file. I think that I have worked out that I need to create a link from my publisher file to this new html file (which I have saved in my documents), and this link works great to my MS Word altered html page.
The problem is that the navigation bar on the MS Word html page does not link back to the original publisher file. I have tried publishing my website to my hard drive, which has transformed the pages into html format and given them index files to follow. I then went back to my MS Word html document, and made each navigation bar button link to these new index files, however this has made no difference when actually looking at the website.
I manually created links in the navigation bar of the MS Word html document to each index file which looked like this: ../../../../My%20Documents/testwebpage/index_files/Page353.htm
However when actually looking at the website and hitting the same navigation bar it directs me to this (and says the page cannot be displayed): C:\My Documents\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.MSO\PubWebPagePreview\pub3916.188\index_files\Page353.htm
What am I doing wrong? I am just testing the links before it goes to the web, however I realize that the links will also need to be changed to the correct web addresses in the future
Thanks Deech
Rob Giordano (Crash) - 15 Jun 2006 03:07 GMT You're using two programs that are not really designed to create html and mixing them together. You'll probably survive using Publisher alone, but mix Word created html in there and you're bound to have problems.
| I'm building a site. When I do the Web Page Preview, it allows me to "Edit | with MS Office Word" in the "File" menu. This is great as it allows me do [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] | | Thanks Deech DavidF - 15 Jun 2006 03:54 GMT Thanks for the chuckle. Knowing how your feel about using even Publisher to produce a website, I thought your post very tactful, and well said.
DavidF
> You're using two programs that are not really designed to create html and > mixing them together. You'll probably survive using Publisher alone, but [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > | > | Thanks Deech Rob Giordano (Crash) - 15 Jun 2006 05:20 GMT Welp...I do kinda sorta think Pub has a place, problem is that the user wouldn't know when to switch to something more robusto.
| Thanks for the chuckle. Knowing how your feel about using even Publisher to | produce a website, I thought your post very tactful, and well said. [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] | > | bar it directs me to this (and says the page cannot be displayed): | > | C:\My Documents\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.MSO\PubWebPagePreview\pub3916.188\index_files\Page353.htm
| > | What am I doing wrong? I am just testing the links before it goes to the | > | web, however I realize that the links will also need to be changed to | > the | > | correct web addresses in the future | > | | > | Thanks Deech deech - 15 Jun 2006 04:12 GMT Thanks for the reply. I take from your answer that I am going to have problems, which I am, but can I overcome them?
To me, it sounds like it should be simple to have a link from one html page to another regardless of what they are created in. I sort of hoped that there might be something obvious that I haven't done yet.
If/when the website goes on the web, and has a proper URL address for each page, will linking my Word based html page, to the URLs make it work this time.
I guess what I am trying to do is firstly linking from my website to an external site (created via Publisher and Edit with MS Word), and then trying to link back to the website thru the navigation bar that followed through to the external site.
> You're using two programs that are not really designed to create html and > mixing them together. You'll probably survive using Publisher alone, but mix [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > | > | Thanks Deech Rob Giordano (Crash) - 15 Jun 2006 05:23 GMT Don't mix the two...stick with Pub if you're gonna use Pub.
| Thanks for the reply. I take from your answer that I am going to have | problems, which I am, but can I overcome them? [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] | > | bar it directs me to this (and says the page cannot be displayed): | > | C:\My Documents\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.MSO\PubWebPagePreview\pub3916.188\index_files\Page353.htm
| > | What am I doing wrong? I am just testing the links before it goes to the | > | web, however I realize that the links will also need to be changed to the | > | correct web addresses in the future | > | | > | Thanks Deech DavidF - 15 Jun 2006 04:03 GMT Use Word to edit the text boxes in your Publisher document, not Web Page Preview. Select a text box > Edit > Edit Story in Microsoft Word . Make your changes in Word then File > Update, and your Publisher document will be updated and you can close Word. Produce all your HTML files from Publisher. As Rob said, don't try to mix them.
DavidF
> I'm building a site. When I do the Web Page Preview, it allows me to "Edit > with MS Office Word" in the "File" menu. This is great as it allows me do [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Thanks Deech deech - 15 Jun 2006 04:21 GMT OK, I've just read this answer also. I am now getting the meassage that I should not mix Word html files. However, searching thru these questions a few days ago, I read answers about linking to external sites (eg Word) being possible as long as the Word doc is also uploaded to the server.
Is this a no no, or is this OK as long as the Word file is not saved as a Webpage format.....e.g can I upload a normal Word doc?, can I link to this normal doc?, and is this OK?....will links created on this Word doc still work?
> Use Word to edit the text boxes in your Publisher document, not Web Page > Preview. Select a text box > Edit > Edit Story in Microsoft Word . Make your [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > > > Thanks Deech Rob Giordano (Crash) - 15 Jun 2006 05:29 GMT You can link to a regular Word .doc as long as you also upload it to your website. It will open in Word in the browser if the viewer has Word installed on their machine (IIRC)...and hyperlinks within the Word doc "should" work as long as they are absolute url's.
| OK, I've just read this answer also. I am now getting the meassage that I | should not mix Word html files. However, searching thru these questions a few [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] | > > bar it directs me to this (and says the page cannot be displayed): | > > C:\My Documents\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.MSO\PubWebPagePreview\pub3916.188\index_files\Page353.htm
| > > What am I doing wrong? I am just testing the links before it goes to the | > > web, however I realize that the links will also need to be changed to the | > > correct web addresses in the future | > > | > > Thanks Deech deech - 15 Jun 2006 07:36 GMT Thanks for that.......I think I know where this is probably heading. I don't like the format of Word, to be linking directly to that.....so I'll probbly try to convert my word.doc to a pdf, and link to that.
It wont be able to maintain the navigation bar, but it looks like that cannot be achieved unless I continue 100% in publisher.
When converting a word.doc to a pdf, and still maintaining hyperlinks, do I need Acrobat, or is there a free-version available that maintains the links
> You can link to a regular Word .doc as long as you also upload it to your > website. It will open in Word in the browser if the viewer has Word [quoted text clipped - 73 lines] > | > > > | > > Thanks Deech Rob Giordano (Crash) - 15 Jun 2006 14:17 GMT Acrobat can maintain the links, but it's $$. A lot of people herein recommend primopdf (freebie). I have it too, but don't use it much, so I dunno. Give primopdf a shot.
| Thanks for that.......I think I know where this is probably heading. I don't | like the format of Word, to be linking directly to that.....so I'll probbly [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] | > | > > | > | > > Thanks Deech DavidF - 15 Jun 2006 14:43 GMT You can produce web pages with both Word and Publisher, both of which have limitations and are not really specifically designed for the task. However, they both use different coding engines, and when you try to mix the code you end up with a mess, as you discovered. One example, a Publisher navbar produced by the navbar wizard writes relative links to the other pages in the site. When you try to import that navbar into a Word web page, it isn't going to work. This is just one reason why you are having problems.
Yes, you could produce a website with Publisher...and a website produced with Word, and then link the two websites. However you would not want to mix the html code and you could not include all the same design elements...the pages would look entirely different. The approach is illustrated in the article "Building a web site with multiple Publisher web publication files": http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/16/81264.aspx However, just because you could do this doesn't mean you should, or explain why you would even want to.
As I said in my previous reply, you can edit any text from a Publisher web document in Word and save those changes in your Publisher document. Furthermore, I have found that I can do most formatting and editing from within Publisher and really find no need to go to Word. What I can't do is usually not supported in HTML anyway...tis a print document feature and won't work as a web page. You can also import a Word document into Publisher, so once again, I see no reason to use Word HTML files. If you have a text file in Word that you want in Publisher, either import it, or copy and paste, but don't try to import anything other than text. No navbars...no images.
As per trying to incorporate PDF files as part of your web site with links....NO once again. Use PDF files as PDF files. Use Word files as Word files. Don't use either of them for html files. Just bite the bullet and get your content into Publisher, and if you have a special document that you want to have available as a print document, then yes, you can create a PDF file and link to it. You can create a Word file and link to it. But forget this stuff about trying to integrate html files...you will never be happy with the results.
DavidF
> Thanks for that.......I think I know where this is probably heading. I don't > like the format of Word, to be linking directly to that.....so I'll probbly [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > > | > > > > | > > Thanks Deech
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