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nupee - 25 Sep 2006 17:44 GMT I have created hyperlinks and when I click on the link it takes you to that page and takes the viewer away from the website. However, I would rather the link open up a new window so that a person will still have my website open.
DavidF - 26 Sep 2006 00:26 GMT Hyperlinks that open a new browser window: http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/13/81266.aspx
DavidF
>I have created hyperlinks and when I click on the link it takes you to that > page and takes the viewer away from the website. However, I would rather > the link open up a new window so that a person will still have my website > open. puter guy - 08 Nov 2006 17:01 GMT Thanks David! This was exceedingly helpful! Usually your links point to a generic webpage (e.g. /30 or /33) and I usually find myself going in circles to find the answer; and sometimes I don't. This particular link was direct and with a little troubleshooting, I was able to solve my issue in less than 5 minutes.
I've posted a couple questions now and between the two David's responses and reading other posts, I've been able to set up a nice webpage:
http://www.snipesfamily.net
I'm still working on layout (e.g. picture size, links, navigation, etc.) but it's coming along well.
Thanks again!
Dave
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> Hyperlinks that open a new browser window: > http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/13/81266.aspx [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > the link open up a new window so that a person will still have my website > > open. DavidF - 08 Nov 2006 19:58 GMT Thanks, Dave the 'puter guy! Sometimes I just don't have enough time to answer in detail, and David Bartosik's material usually leads to either an answer, or a better asked question. And then there are sometimes, I just don't know how to help people, especially with uploading issues. That is really hard to troubleshoot without sitting in front of a computer. Anyway, thanks...and good work on your site...creative and entertaining.
DavidF
> Thanks David! This was exceedingly helpful! Usually your links point to a > generic webpage (e.g. /30 or /33) and I usually find myself going in [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> > website >> > open. puter guy - 08 Nov 2006 21:03 GMT Hi David:
Thanks for the quick response and feedback on my site. Just like every other web surfer, my family members have short attentions spans so I've gotta grab their attention :-)
I've encountered a problem with trying to link my pictures to a new window. Using the link posted above I understand the code:
<a target="_display" href="http://www.snipesfamily.net/index_files/BD01_HL.htm"><IMG SRC="C:\Documents and Settings\snipes_d\Desktop\MS Publisher\Pictures\Daddy\BD_01.jpg"/></a>
Simple enough, the link points to a webpage and the IMG points to an image on my C: drive that serves as the place holder for the hyperlink. However, looking over David's fragment I came up with this:
<a target="_display" href="http://www.snipesfamily.net/index_files/BD_HL.htm"><IMG SRC="http://snipesfamily.net/index_files/image9471.jpg"/></a>
Again, the link is pointing to the same webpage (e.g. larger picture), and the image to be shown on the webpage is sourced from a file on my website. I hope this is clear thus far...
The problem I've run into is that when I publish my site, Pub renames all of my files so I can't add the specific address (e.g. .../index_files/R_D01) to my fragment. because the name changes to something like - image1234. I've tried publishing, grabing the file name, adding to frag address, and then republishing but Pub reassigns it another name - d'Oh!
The long and the short: how do I point to a specific image that serves as a place holder for a link when I don't know what the name will be since the name is changed when I publish (obstensively changing the web address name)? I'm haunted from past posters describing how their links point to their C: drive and not the website and I don't want to follow suit...
Thanks again!
Dave
 Signature "Alcohol, the cause AND solution to all of life''s problems" Homer J. Simpson
> Thanks, Dave the 'puter guy! Sometimes I just don't have enough time to > answer in detail, and David Bartosik's material usually leads to either an [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > >> > website > >> > open. John G - 08 Nov 2006 22:36 GMT SNIP
>> > http://www.snipesfamily.net >> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> > >> > Dave Dave,
Your site looks very intersting in IE but seems to show (at least to me) nothing but a blank yellow page when viewed in Firefox, which is becoming a popular browser.
John G.
puter guy - 09 Nov 2006 12:51 GMT Hey John:
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, my wife pointed that out when she tried to view the site with firefox. We use that almost exclusively to surf the web at home because of IE's uncanny ability to convey script viruses, etc.
I had planned on researching that issue on this board once I have my site in a good place. I've instructed fam and friends to use IE if only to view my site. If you know of any work arounds of setting adjustments that would do the trick, I'm all eyes :-)
Thanks for the feedback John,
Dave
 Signature "Alcohol, the cause AND solution to all of life''s problems" Homer J. Simpson
> SNIP > >> > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > John G. DavidF - 10 Nov 2006 13:11 GMT Dave,
John is correct about your home page not loading correctly in FF, but your other pages do load. For example: http://www.snipesfamily.net/index_files/DAVE.htm The issue is that Publisher produces "smarter" html code for IE, and "dumber" code for other browsers, and sometimes the "dumber" code simply doesn't work in FF. Sometimes running the design checker tool will find some of these issues.
I am betting that you are using a script on your home page that you are not using on your other pages, which is what is keeping the page from loading in FF. In general, I would suggest that you Publish to the Web, to a folder on your computer where you can find the HTML output. (I put my test folder on my desktop so it is easy to delete the old code when I want to test new.) Then open FF, File > Open File and browse to that folder, and open the index.htm file to test for cross browser compatibility. In general, "reverse engineer" the page until you find the design element that is incompatible with FF. In particular drag any code fragment boxes you have inserted into your home page, off the page into the scratch area, and produce your html code and test. Then add back the design elements...the code boxes, one at a time until you find the one that is creating the problem.
I suspect on your home page, that whatever script you are using to display the reminder to visit the Calendar page, might be causing the problem. However, it might also be the "filled objects" you are using for your navigation system. It appears that you have created ovals, and overlapped text boxes with links? Not sure how you created them, but you might need to insert a "button" from the design gallery, or clip art, and approach this in a different way. Also, it appears that you have filled an oval for the picture of you and your family...this might also be the problem. You might need to recreate that image as a transparent GIF file. Or it may be that you are already using a transparent GIF, and you are overlapping the menu items with the image, which can also create problems. My point is that you drag design elements off the page into the scratch area until the page loads ok in FF, then add them back one at a time to test. If a particular element, code fragment box, image, etc creates the problem with FF, then find an alternative design...or alternative script. Even your weather script might be an issue, and you might try the script from http://www.wunderground.com/about/faq/weathersticker.asp . It seems to be loading awfully low on your page...unless that is what you intended.
I also noticed on http://www.snipesfamily.net/index_files/DAVE.htm and some of your other pages, that you have somehow managed to add links that open in a new window, within your text boxes. These links do not align correctly in FF. I didn't think it was possible to code a link within a text box to open in a new window? My question is how did you do that? Seriously, I want to know...
Designing a website to be compatible with every browser is a challenge regardless of what tool you use to produce your site, and Publisher is not exception. However, I have seen a lot of Publisher produced sites that load just fine in FF, so with some trial and terror...and some redesign, you can get your page fairly compatible.
Good luck...
DavidF
> Hey John: > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> >> John G. DavidF - 08 Nov 2006 23:32 GMT Dave,
You are almost there. You need to import the image rather than embed it in the Pub page. Using your code snippet:
<a target="_display" href="http://www.snipesfamily.net/index_files/BD_HL.htm"><IMG SRC="http://snipesfamily.net/index_files/image9471.jpg"/></a>
First create a subfolder on your site called "images", at the same root level as your index.htm file and the index_files folder.
Second, take your original image, which I assume is "BD_01.jpg", and resize it to the size you want to display on your page using a third party image editing program, and then upload it to your new "images" folder.
Now use this code snippet:
<a target="_display" href="http://www.snipesfamily.net/index_files/BD_HL.htm"><IMG SRC="http://snipesfamily.net/images/BD_01.jpg"></a>
Note that you do not use a forward slash after the image file name, and be sure to size the code fragment box the same size as the image. Though it should not make any difference, another poster had problems using the underscore in a file name, so if you have problems, use BD01.jpg .
If you don't have an image editing program, let me know. I can suggest a freebie such as irfanview or there is a workaround, but it would be better if you optimize the image in a third party program.
And though you did not ask for it, you can also add the ALT tag if you want. Here is an example:
<a target="_display" href="http://www.snipesfamily.net/index_files/BD_HL.htm"><IMG SRC="http://snipesfamily.net/images/BD_01.jpg" ALT="Whatever text you want to add"></a>
If you use this code snippet, and mouseover the image, you will see "Whatever text you want to add" . You could change the text to say, "click here for a larger image"...or add some other description of your choice.
Good luck.
DavidF
> Hi David: > [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] >> >> > website >> >> > open. puter guy - 09 Nov 2006 12:48 GMT Great! Thanks again as always! Nice description on saving files to another folder on the same root level as my index.htm & index_file. I believe I read a similar fix somewhere else on this board, but did not understand the directions...
I will give this a shot and thanks for the ALT text. I went through and labeled each picture only to realize that on mouseover it just said "picture" and not the description. That will be a nice addition to either describe the pic or instruct on what to do.
The next issue I'll tackle is Pub's issue with allowing users to dL pics and other content. I believe I read something somewhere here, but I'll get to that when the time comes. As always, one thing at a time :-)
Thanks again!
Dave
 Signature "Alcohol, the cause AND solution to all of life''s problems" Homer J. Simpson
> Dave, > [quoted text clipped - 143 lines] > >> >> > website > >> >> > open. DavidF - 10 Nov 2006 13:27 GMT For some reason Microsoft decided to disable the right click, save picture option with Pub 2003 webpages. Your easiest workaround is to upload the images that you want to make available to download to your new images folder, and then provide a link to them, and instruct people to use the right click option to save them after they load in the browser. When you right click an image that loads independently from your Publisher page, you do have the option of saving that file.
If you don't want to duplicate the images, then you could also just adapt the code snippet to import your images into your page, rather than embed them, and provide a link to those images. If you size and optimize your images before you upload them, and use the insert html code fragment to import them, you will also find that the images look better in FF. This is because you are bypassing the coding engine in Publisher which makes copies of the images, and provides a lower quality image for FF.
Hope that is clear...
DavidF
> Great! Thanks again as always! Nice description on saving files to another > folder on the same root level as my index.htm & index_file. I believe I [quoted text clipped - 191 lines] >> >> >> > website >> >> >> > open.
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