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MS Office Forum / Publisher / Web Design / October 2006Pages not uploading
Only my home page is uploading to the web. The link that was provided before to answer this question is directing me to a page that doesn't help me. Can some one please give me detailed information regarding this problem? Thank you!!! Kim When you Publish to the Web, Publisher produces the HTML output in the form of an index.htm file, plus a index_files folder that contains your other pages and supporting graphics. It sounds like you didn't upload the folder. DavidF > Only my home page is uploading to the web. The link that was provided > before [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Kim I have the same problem as Kim. I DO upload the index.htm file and all of the files contained in the folder with all the other files, graphics etc but they all appear as individual files on the web page. The index.htm file opens as the home page (without graphics etc). Also there are some unknown files with some Win Media file extensions (?) which have been produced by Publisher. Any help please? > When you Publish to the Web, Publisher produces the HTML output in the form > of an index.htm file, plus a index_files folder that contains your other [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > Kim Upload the index.hml file and the FOLDER index_files. All the individual files in that folder should stay in that folder. DavidF >I have the same problem as Kim. I DO upload the index.htm file and all of >the [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >> > >> > Kim Thanks David - I have been uploading all the individual files in the index_files folder. Whoops! I will try again. > Upload the index.hml file and the FOLDER index_files. All the individual > files in that folder should stay in that folder. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >> > > >> > Kim Partial success! Have uploaded as advised and the host site now shows only two folders - the index_files folder and the HTML folder. The Home web page now loads correctly with all graphics in place BUT, none of the hyperlinks work to enable me to go to the other five pages of the site. Could that be somthing to do with Publishers 'naming' of those pages? More help please when you have time. You can see the first effort on www.the-innscribers.co.uk GeePee > Thanks David - I have been uploading all the individual files in the > index_files folder. Whoops! I will try again. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > >> > > > >> > Kim That is because you are framing your site in www.the-innscribers.co.uk , and the relative links that are used in the navbar are pointing to the wrong place for your other pages. Hover your mouse over the Contact Us button, and look at the status bar on the bottom of your page. It shows index_files/Page596.htm which means it is looking for a page at: http://www.the-innscribers.co.uk/index_files/Page596.htm , but that is not where the page is actually located. If you go to http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/ your home page loads, and if you click the Contact Us then it takes you to where the page really is: http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/Page596.htm Your options are to not frame your site, or to do away with the wizard built navbar that uses relative links, and build one manually with absolute links. Here is an article that will help you understand: Code your own textual navigation menu in Publisher: http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/16/81255.aspx DavidF > Partial success! Have uploaded as advised and the host site now shows > only [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] >> > >> > >> > >> > Kim Cannot thank you enough! I susoected that the links were pointing me in the wrong direction but could not work out how/where etc.. Will reconstruct links with absolute links. Hope this all helps someone else as well. > That is because you are framing your site in www.the-innscribers.co.uk , and > the relative links that are used in the navbar are pointing to the wrong [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Kim Here we are again. Still no success at linking pages. Since last post, have changed the file name, page title and folder for each page. i.e. contacts page now has the title 'Contacts' and file name of contacts.htm You will see on the only page that is currently loaded (no other files are loaded - gifs etc) that the link points in the right(?) direction but will still not open pages other than the index.htm page. I can upload all pages within the web site and can access them all individually on the web but the hyperlink is defeating me. www.the-innscribers.co.uk > Cannot thank you enough! I susoected that the links were pointing me in the > wrong direction but could not work out how/where etc.. [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > Kim I am not sure what all you have done, but at www.the-innscribers.co.uk and at http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net it appears that you are still using the navbar wizard. To reiterate, you CANNOT use the navbar wizard when the site is framed. It writes relative links. You have to hand build a navbar system with absolute links. Right now if you hover your mouse over any of the links, you will notice not only relative links ( The%20Innscribers%20web%20site_files/contacts.htm), but also another error...you are using spaces, which show up as "%20". You can't use spaces when writing a link/path to a file. Furthermore you should not have renamed the index_files folder "The Innscribers web site_files". You need to go back and read the article about building your own textual navbar, and study it and the example I gave you on how to write the absolute links. Then delete the wizard built navbar, and either use the approach in the article and the insert HTML code fragment tool; or insert a text box with absolute links; or even icons/images with absolute links...it doesn't matter which as long as when you insert the hyperlink, it is an absolute link/path to your files. You can leave the page titles with the new names. This should make writing the absolute links easier than trying to use the arbitrary numbered files Publisher chooses when you don't. Now the link/path to your contacts page would be written as: http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/contacts.htm instead of http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/Page596.htm It then follows that the link to whatwedo page will be: http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/whatwedo.htm etc, etc, etc for the rest of your pages. Remember, no spaces in the links, and I would suggest writing everything in lower case, to prevent further problems. If you build your navbar on your home page, you can then copy and paste it on your other pages. Then delete the index.htm file and the "The Innscribers web site_files" folder from you webhost, and republish allowing Publisher to generate the index_files folder. Good luck. DavidF > Here we are again. Still no success at linking pages. Since last post, > have [quoted text clipped - 115 lines] >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Kim David, Thanks for the very helpful guidance. As you suggested, i have been studying your instructions and the article about building my own textual navbar. This is how the coding looks for the navbar now: <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/default.aspx">Home</a> | <a href="http://www.leslymjames.talktalk.net/contacts.aspx">contacts</a> | <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/whatwedo.aspx">whatwedo</a> | <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/inscribing.aspx">innscribing</a> | <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/committee.aspx">committee</a> | <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/links.aspx">links</a> | BUT, it does not look anything like your last post (should the bit after the talktalk url be "index_files/ " in each line?) viz "http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/contacts.htm" I know the site/files are not ready to be uploaded, but I have done so, just so that you, if you wish can have a look at them, if you have time. The links do not work either as a preview on my PC in Explorer nor on the web, so again I have messed up ! One of my other problems is that I cannot give a massive amount of time to this project as I have other work and responsibilities, so each time I come back to it I have to virtually start afresh. Perhaps that's the problem. So where do I go from here, please? Thanks for all your time. Graham > I am not sure what all you have done, but at www.the-innscribers.co.uk and > at http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net it appears that you are still using [quoted text clipped - 158 lines] > >> > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > Kim Hi Graham, Color me embarrassed. I couldn't understand why you used the .aspx extension, until I went back to David Bartosik's article about building textual menus. I must admit, that it has been a couple years since I actually read the article, and I had forgotten that David used this in his example. Sorry about that. That's the bad news. The good news is that you are getting there. First, change each ".aspx" to ".htm" . Second, make sure you spell things correctly. You misspelled "lesley" for the contacts page and "innscribing". A hint - once you get one path typed correctly, copy and paste, and then just edit the parts that change...less errors and faster that way Third, change "default.aspx" to "index.htm" - that is your home page. With those changes you have: <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index.htm">Home</a> | <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/contacts.htm">contacts</a> | <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/whatwedo.htm">whatwedo</a> | <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/innscribing.htm">innscribing</a> <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/committee.htm">committee</a> | <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/links.htm">links</a> | These links work...mostly. For cosmetics, perhaps you might prefer: <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index.htm">Home</a> | <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/contacts.htm">Contacts</a> | <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/whatwedo.htm">What We Do<a> | <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/innscribing.htm">Innscribing</a> <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/committee.htm">Committee</a> | <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/links.htm">Links</a> | You can put spaces and upper case in the TEXT part of this code snippet....just not the URL. Now for some confusing news. Though the code snippet works, it shouldn't ;-) If your site was performing as I would have expected, then you would have had to add "index_files" to each path/URL written, except for the home page (index.htm). The contacts.htm page should be in the index_files folder along with all your images and graphics. And yet, the page and the images load when you go to: http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/contacts.htm The link should be: http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/contacts.htm and yet that doesn't work. To review, if you have not changed the defaults within Publisher, when you Publish to the Web and produce your HTML output, you get an "index.htm" file, which is your home page, and a "index_files" folder, containing all your graphics and the other files/pages in your site...contacts.htm, etc. This means that if you uploaded the index.htm file and the index_files folder to your root directory on your host, then the following code snippet should be correct: <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index.htm">Home</a> | <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/contacts.htm">Contacts</a> <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/whatwedo.htm">What We Do<a> | <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/innscribing.htm">Innscribing</a> <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/committee.htm">Committee</a> <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/links.htm">Links</a> And while I am at it, here is a vertical version: <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index.htm">Home</a> <br> <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/contacts.htm">Contacts</a> <br> <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/whatwedo.htm">What We Do<a> <br> <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/innscribing.htm">Innscribing</a> <br> <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/committee.htm">Committee</a> <br> <a href="http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/links.htm">Links</a> <br> Copy and paste. Then, go up to your site, and delete all the old Publisher HTML files and folders, and upload fresh output from Publisher. Sorry about adding to your confusion. I need to go back and read all David's articles again, so I don't make that mistake next time. Let me know if this works. DavidF > David, Thanks for the very helpful guidance. As you suggested, i have > been [quoted text clipped - 229 lines] >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > Kim Hi David Just a brief accknowledgement. Thanks for your time and trouble - it's all beginning to make sense to me. Now I'll just get down to working on it - time permitting! Will report! Graham > Hi Graham, > [quoted text clipped - 278 lines] > >> >> > >> > individual > >> >> > >> > files in that folder should stay in that folder. Hi David Thanks for the very detailed instructions. Since receiving them, I have done the following, in no particular order. • Deleted all the files uploaded to the web – checked both sites to ensure that only the ‘Parent directory’ is shown. OK. • Emptied the recycle bin and temp internet files. • Noted on uploading that one or two of the graphics were a bit large, so compressed all of them. The site now only a total of 1.7Mb & uploads in 100 seconds. • I have created a new folder in ‘C’ into which Publisher can create the two sub-folders ‘index_files’ and index.htm – I have then got rid of all previous related files. • I have followed your instructions and used the ‘Links’ code for the publication – carefully typed the code into the Publisher Web Code Fragment dialog box then copied and pasted into each of the other five pages. • Uploaded the site unsuccessfully……….. • Went back to the Publisher files and rechecked everything then tried inserting the ‘index_files’ code to see if that made a difference – it did not. • Have now taken that out and also tried your vertical coding – some of that worked on the Contacts page but for simplicity, I have also deleted that. • The current position is that if I upload the site, I can now access and read all of the pages - links are working OK.:-)) I seem to have made a lot of headway!! There will be some tidying up to do as some of the formatting is a bit crude, but as long as I know the site is there I can take my time. The only thing that has to be done immediately is to find out why the graphics are not loading on the Home page? Also, could you tell me why a few of the files created by Publisher are .wmz files, which I think are Windows Media files! If I open them there is nothing there apart from the Win Media screen....Can I delete them? Or rather should I delete them? Could not have done this without you - very much appreciated! > Hi Graham, > [quoted text clipped - 278 lines] > >> >> > >> > individual > >> >> > >> > files in that folder should stay in that folder. Just ignore the .wmz files. Leave them in there. The reason the index.htm file, your home page, is not loading the graphic files is because it is looking to the index_files folder for them, and not finding them. The problem goes back to why http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/contacts.htm does work, and http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_files/contacts.htm does not...and should...and I am not sure of the answer. The problem is the framing. The solution???? Here are some guesses. You have uploaded your files to wrong directory. www.the-innscribers.co.uk is pointing to wrong directory for www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net . Or perhaps, because of the framing you can not use the subfolder option in Publisher. I guess that what I would do next is do away with the subfolder option in Publisher, and write the links yet once again. First of all, go to the folder on your C drive where you directed your HTML output when you Publish to the Web. If you look in the index_files folder, you will note that your other pages are simply named "contacts.htm" etc. Now, go ahead and delete the index.htm file and the index_files folder. Open your Publisher document, go to tools > options > web tab and uncheck "organize supporting files in a folder". In fact for now, uncheck everything under Saving. OK. Now Publish to the Web to that folder on your C drive. Go back to that folder and study the contents. Note that no longer do you have a subfolder...all the files, graphics etc are all together. More importantly note that your contacts page is now named "index_contacts.htm" instead of "contacts.htm". Note your other pages and all your images are now preceded with "index_" Ok, now you can delete all those files and go back to your Publisher file. Double click the code fragment box that contains your textual navbar, and change each link to reflect the new file names. In other words, instead of http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/contacts.htm write http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/index_contacts.htm In fact, you can just copy "index_"and paste it in front of contacts.htm, and whatwedo.htm, innscribing.htm, etc....each of pages, EXCEPT for the index.htm file. Copy and paste that edited code fragment box to each of your pages. Publish to the Web to the folder on your C drive. Delete the index.htm file and the index_files folder from your webspace, and upload the new files. Cross your fingers...and hope this works. Do the images now load on your home page? Do the links work? DavidF > Hi David > Thanks for the very detailed instructions. Since receiving them, I have [quoted text clipped - 376 lines] >> >> >> > >> > individual >> >> >> > >> > files in that folder should stay in that folder. Don't you ever sleep? Graham > Just ignore the .wmz files. Leave them in there. > [quoted text clipped - 285 lines] > >> >> absolute > >> >> links. Then delete the wizard built navbar, and either use the David doesn't sleep. I am three hours ahead in time zones, I swear when I look at a post at 7 a.m. my time, 3:00 David's time. David is already up and posting.  SignatureMary Sauer MSFT MVP http://office.microsoft.com/ http://msauer.mvps.org/ news://msnews.microsoft.com http://officebeta.iponet.net/en-us/publisher/FX100649111033.aspx > Don't you ever sleep? > Graham [quoted text clipped - 288 lines] >> >> >> absolute >> >> >> links. Then delete the wizard built navbar, and either use the Like you have room to talk. I've seen you posting at all hours of the day and night. I honestly don't know when *you* sleep. ;-) SignatureJoAnn Paules MVP Microsoft [Publisher] ~~~~~ How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375 > David doesn't sleep. I am three hours ahead in time zones, I swear when I > look at a post at 7 a.m. my time, 3:00 David's time. David is already up [quoted text clipped - 359 lines] >>> >> >> absolute >>> >> >> links. Then delete the wizard built navbar, and either use the Do the images now load on your home page? YES Do the links work? YES It's been a long road, David. Many thanks for your patience - I could not have completed this without your help. Prior to asking for help on this forum, I contacted friends who I know are involved in web site creation in Croatia, Australia, Finland and here in sunny England. None of them could help - or perhaps it was the mention of Publisher..... Anyway, I can now concentrate on improvements to the site rather than the basics of uploading it. I've learn a lot. regards graham > Just ignore the .wmz files. Leave them in there. > [quoted text clipped - 285 lines] > >> >> absolute > >> >> links. Then delete the wizard built navbar, and either use the "Do images now load on your home page?" YES "Do the links work?" YES There at last David - very many thanks for your time and patience. All worth while and a very satified customer. I can now get down to cosmetic improvements to the site. Again many thanks. graham :-)) > Just ignore the .wmz files. Leave them in there. > [quoted text clipped - 285 lines] > >> >> absolute > >> >> links. Then delete the wizard built navbar, and either use the David is the man... SignatureMary Sauer MSFT MVP http://office.microsoft.com/ http://msauer.mvps.org/ news://msnews.microsoft.com http://officebeta.iponet.net/en-us/publisher/FX100649111033.aspx > "Do images now load on your home page?" YES > "Do the links work?" YES [quoted text clipped - 296 lines] >> >> >> absolute >> >> >> links. Then delete the wizard built navbar, and either use the Do the images now load on your home page? YES Do the links work? YES BUT When I open www.the-inscribers.co.uk the Home page that loads is the old page with no images. If I navigate to the (say) contacts page then back to the Home page, the new Home page opens with all the changes and images. Clicking all the links then takes me to any of the pages with the updated links. I know I deleted all the old files before changing the htm coding for the new links (I checked the memory used on the site for uploaded files) so how comes the old page is still accessible? Thanks for all your time and patience. Could not have got here without you. regards Graham > Just ignore the .wmz files. Leave them in there. > [quoted text clipped - 285 lines] > >> >> absolute > >> >> links. Then delete the wizard built navbar, and either use the Graham, Yes, contrary to what people think, I do sleep 3 or 4 hours a day...and Mary is correct, I am frequently up by 3:00...and increasingly stupid after supper ;-) When I first clicked on www.the-inscribers.co.uk I got nothing, but now it appears to load ok. Correct? If so, then I have some new information that you can use, that I learned while working through this problem with you. You can modify a wizard built navbar to work in your circumstances...at least a vertical navbar. I wouldn't try to change the horizontal navbar you have built, because wizard built, horizontal navbars used on the bottom or your page will be converted into an image in FireFox, and won't work. Here are the steps: 1. Insert Design Gallery Object > Navigation Bars. 2. Choose the navbar you want to use which will bring up a Create New Navigation Bar dialog. 3. Under insert options, select Insert on every page. Under Automatic update, check "update this navigation bar..." OK. Voila, you should have a new navbar on each page. Move and position where you want it. 4. On the left of your page you should also see Web Site Options. Under Navigation bar, choose Vertical only. 5. Now you need to change the links from the default relative links to your newly discovered absolute links. 6. Select the new navbar, click the wand, and on the left side of the page under Change Navigation bar, click Add, remove, and reorder links... The navigation Bar properties dialog box pops up. 7. Select the Home page link > modify link. Under the new dialog box that pops up, and under Link To: choose Existing File or Web Page. Then under Look in: choose Browsed pages. Now if your absolute links to your pages aren't listed, try clicking the drop down arrow beside the address field. Chances are the links to each of your pages should be there. Or you can just copy and paste from your code fragment box. Or there is a little icon in the upper right part of the dialog box that looks to me like a world with a magnifying glass over it. If you hover your mouse over it, it should say "Browse the web". Click it, and browse to your home page: http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/contacts.htm and paste it in the address. OK. Select each link, for each page, and change it to the absolute links to your pages. OK You should now have a functioning vertical navbar. You can't test it in Web Preview because when you click on any of the links, it will take you to the web. So, delete your old files on your web host, and publish new files, and upload them. I apologize about not figuring this out right away. I use Pub 2000 for my sites, and actually import a navbar and everything works a bit different than in Pub 2003. The only time I use Pub 2003 is to help people here, and for testing purposes. I knew that you couldn't use the relative links when you frame a site, which is the default way Publisher produces a navbar through the wizard. What I hadn't worked out before, was how to change those relative links to absolute links. But I guess we still would have had to go through the discovery process of how to write the absolute links anyway, and you would have still wanted to create the horizontal textual navbar on the bottom, so that it worked in FireFox. So, I guess all's well, that ends well...and next time, I can save everybody some time. Hoping this all works for you... DavidF > Do the images now load on your home page? YES > Do the links work? YES [quoted text clipped - 354 lines] >> >> >> absolute >> >> >> links. Then delete the wizard built navbar, and either use the First, yes the site now works OK. Could there be a time lag before the sites works - perhaps dictated by the provider? Anyway its there now. :-) Thanks a lot for the additional information - like the rest I will print it off and one day publish it all as a manual for Publisher 2003! I will get down to trying it later today ( ie it's 0819hrs GMT +1 here) at the same time I start tidying up some of the clumsy layout. I'll let you know (and your fans who read this forum) Graham > Graham, > [quoted text clipped - 286 lines] > >> >> snippet > >> >> should be correct: Thanks so much for all of your explicit and easy-to-follow directions. I've had many of the same difficulties loading my site, etc and reading this thread has put me ahead of the game with regard to links, use of spaces, index_, etc. It seems that you've now helped three people with your comprehensive responses - and perhaps even more! Thanks again! Signature"Alcohol, the cause AND solution to all of life''s problems" Homer J. Simpson > First, yes the site now works OK. Could there be a time lag before the sites > works - perhaps dictated by the provider? [quoted text clipped - 283 lines] > > >> >> when you go to: > > >> >> http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/contacts.htm Thanks for the feedback. Sometimes I do wonder if I overload people with too much info, and too many directions, so it is nice to hear from both of you that I was able to help. Now if I could just find a way to help people more effectively with uploading problems...;-) DavidF > Thanks so much for all of your explicit and easy-to-follow directions. > I've [quoted text clipped - 387 lines] >> > >> >> when you go to: >> > >> >> http://www.lesleymjames.talktalk.net/contacts.htm One final comment (famous last words)...I gave you the way of adding the vertical navbar back into your design, but it occurs to me that one of your next questions might be how to center your webpage...which you can't. You might take a moment to read this article: Understanding background padding in a Publisher web (aka white space): http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/07/80563.aspx But given the way you have it arranged right now, it looks centered...or almost anyway, and you could continue that perception by using a wizard built, horizontal navbar, on the top only, rather than the vertical navbar....and keep the textual navbar on the bottom. Just something to consider as you redesign your pages... DavidF > First, yes the site now works OK. Could there be a time lag before the > sites [quoted text clipped - 365 lines] >> >> >> snippet >> >> >> should be correct: VERTICAL NAVBARS Just in case it is of some help, David. Whilst following your instructions for inserting the Navbars, it might be helpful to add after point 6. "6a. If you use the option to take the link from browsed pages, (see 7, below) it would be a good idea to do some housekeeping first - In the browser, Tools, Internet Options , Delete files, Delete Cookies, remove History. Then navigate to your web site and open each page - this will leave only your site details to browse through to find the links." This is not very good language but I hope you understand the point of this. Regards Graham > One final comment (famous last words)...I gave you the way of adding the > vertical navbar back into your design, but it occurs to me that one of your [quoted text clipped - 283 lines] > >> >> >> building > >> >> >> textual menus. I must admit, that it has been a couple years since PS The first attempt at the vertical Navbars is up and running but I cheated and only the Home page has the correct links - I thought all the links on all the pages would update when I corrected the Home page - but they don't so I will take it down again and correct it later tonight. As mentioned in other threads, it is quite important to delete everything from the site and re-load with the new files rather than try to update, which does not always work satisfactorily GP > VERTICAL NAVBARS > [quoted text clipped - 283 lines] > > >> >> > files, which I think are Windows Media files! If I open them there > > >> >> > is All links now working OK (vertical and horizontal - top and bottom). They were in fact correct the first time but some corruption occured in uploading. Site looks OK on my computer but I don't know how it will look on others. Thanks again Graham > PS The first attempt at the vertical Navbars is up and running but I cheated > and only the Home page has the correct links - I thought all the links on all [quoted text clipped - 282 lines] > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > There will be some tidying up to do as some of the formatting is a
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