Hi John G,

Sorry it took me a while to get back to this.

First of all there were some changes made in the web building component of
Publisher between version 2002 and 2003. I have 97, 2000, 2003 and 2007, but
not 2002, so it is hard for me to comment on 2002. However, David Bartosik
has written a couple good articles about the differences that would be worth
reading: Web Publication Changes Made in Version 2002 of Publisher:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/archive/2006/01/03/81262.aspx
Publisher 2003 - What's new in web design for this version:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/dbartosik/pages/80555.aspx

What you will find in general is that 2003 is better than 2002 in almost
every way for web building, though it is still saddled with quite a few
limitations.

I think that what confused me was our terminology. When you say "bottom
line" for example, I now think you are talking about the horizontal textual
navbar that appears at the bottom of the page. When I suggested using the
hand coded textual navbar that is described in David Bartosik's article, I
was trying to say to use it instead of the "bottom line" navbar produced by
the navbar wizard.

When you say that when you right click either navbars and the hyperlink
option is grayed out, that is by design. If you insert a hyperlink into an
image or within a text box, the right click option to change the hyperlink
is available. However to change any of the properties of the wizard produced
navbars in 2003, you have to do that from within the wizard...you can't do
it manually. You can right click the navbar and get the option of "Wizard
for this object", or you can select the navbar and click on the little wand
that appears below the navbar. Either will open the Web site options to the
left of your page. You will see Change navigation bar...add, remove, and
reorder links... Click that and the Navigation Bar Properties dialog box
appears, and this is where you modify the links.

If you use the option of both the vertical and bottom navbar, then they are
tied together. Make a change in the hyperlink to one, and it is generally
reflected in the other. This is default behavior for wizard produced
navbars. The whole idea of using a wizard is to make a change on one page,
and automagically make the change throughout the document. With this
convenience, comes limitations, and thus your inability to get the
horizontal bottom navbar to be independent of the vertical navbar.

Now for some reason when you use both the vertical and the bottom navbar,
the bottom navbar does not work in FireFox. It appears that it is converted
into an image, which kills the hyperlinks. And given your goal to use
different words on the bottom and the vertical navbars, you can address both
issues with the workaround I suggested. No, you can't do it via the wizard.
You have to remove the bottom wizard built navbar, and insert the hand coded
one as described in David's article, via the insert html code fragment tool.
You can thus change the words to anything you want, and best of all the
inserted navbar will work in Firefox.

One caveat. Unless you specify a file name for your other pages, Pub 2003
will name them arbitrarily, and it is difficult to write absolute links. For
example if you go to your Travel Albums page, this is the link:
http://johngriff.com/index_files/page0001.htm
While you could use this as your absolute link, it is easier to keep
everything straight if you go to that page in your Publisher document, Tools

your case you might call that page "Talbums" or "Travel_Albums" or
"travelalbums"...or whatever works for you. Then when you do Publish to the
web, Publisher will produce a file called "travelalbums.htm" vs.
"page0001.htm", and the link to that page will be
http://johngriff.com/index_files/travelalbums.htm . And of course it is
under the Web Page Options that you change the Page Title...the words that
show in the navbar.

As to ungrouping and grouping the wizard built navbars in order to make
changes, I haven't really experimented with that. In general though I think
that when you ungroup, you also disconnect the navbar from the wizard, and
in general this won't work. If you find out otherwise, let me know.

I hope this rather lengthy explanation helps.

DavidF