MS Office Forum / Publisher / Web Design / March 2007
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Mike Koewler - 29 Mar 2007 19:47 GMT I can think clearly now, the headache is gone! Well, at least for a while. After 5+ weeks of daily agony, having a few hours free of pain while not suffering from a drug hangover is a blessed event.
Anyway, I'm writing from the viewpoint of the person who not only did the Premium Guide last year but have looked at it from the standpoint of being interested in entering several categories. To be honest, it is quite confusing and doesn't make a lot of sense, not to mention boring. Perhaps what has happened is that it has always been done this way and no one has really looked at it with a fresh view. Take Vegetables, for example. (I'm interested in this since I'm regressing in age and becoming involved with doing what I HAD to do as a child, but this time it is for fun, exercise and just to see if I can do it. Plus, if my back yard is one giant garden, Linda won't have to mow it!). Here's what the listings in Vegetables say: Sweet Bell Peppers, Hot Peppers, Onion Family, Root Vegetables and Vine Family (except for largest in each category) 3 on a plate. PRIZES 1st - $5.00 2nd - $3.00 3rd - $1.50 3 on a plate-Tomato 11-1 Beefsteak 11-2 Yellow 11-3 Yellow Pear 11-4 Plum 11-5 Cherry 11-6 Standard Round Red 11-7 Other Pink 11-8 Other Orange 11-9 Other - Not Listed 11-10 Largest Tomato, one per plate Sweet Bell Peppers 11-15 Green 11-16 Red 11-17 Yellow 11-18 Sweet Banana 11-19 Italian Sweet 11-20 Other Sweet 11-21 Largest Sweet Pepper, 1 per plate etc.
Okay, these are fairly understandable, but to someone who has never exhibited anything, a lot more info should be included. Do I need to supply the plate? If so, paper, china, plastic? What are the veggies judged on? Size, ripeness, uniformity. Should they be picked on Sunday, Saturday or even Friday and left to ripen a bit? When is the judging date? Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday? If I pick a ripe tomato on Sunday and it's not judged until Wednesday, then it will be a tad overripe. But if I pick one nearly ripe on Saturday and it's judged Tuesday, it should be ideal.
Next: CONTAINER GARDENING PRIZES 1st $10.00 2nd $8.00 3rd $5.00 *ornamentals will be disqualified *11-101 Vegetable in a 10" or under container with roots, tomato *11-102 Vegetable in a 10" or under container with roots, pepper 11-103 Vegetable in a 10" or under container with roots, any other variety. *11-104 Vegetable in a 10" or over container with roots, tomato *11-105 Vegetable in a 10" or over container with roots, pepper 11-106 Best Display of Garden Products by an individual or organization
Should it be 10" or under and Over 10"? When are these judged? I saw the displays on either Thursday or Friday and they looked like they really needed a dose of water. Can exhibitors water their plants during the fair? Those building get hot, very hot, and there is next to no moisture. Even during summer, the dew provides a bit of moisture and the temps drop below 85.
There are more than likely several other categories that more info can be provided.
VEGETABLE DISPLAY PRIZES (No store-bought produce) 1st - $15.00 2nd - $10.00 3rd - $5.00 11-95 Best Display Peppers 11-96 Best Display Gourds 11-97 Best arrangement of vegetables in a basket or tray. DISPLAY OF GARDEN PRODUCTS BY AN INDIVIDUAL OR ORGANIZATION PRIZES 1st - $45.00 2nd - $30.00 3rd - $15.00 11-98 Adult 1st $30.00 2nd $20.00 3rd $10.00
What is mean by Best Display? Is this a variety of veggies in one container? Or on one plate? How many veggies or what types?
Point 2) I would like to get the paper out much, much earlier. June 1, at the latest. Why? So more people can learn about the exhibition opportunities available. Also, I would like to be able to work with Kroger, UDF and several Senior Citizen groups and have papers available there. Maybe even contact Boy and Girl Scout groups as they have a lot of Merit Badges that dovetail with Art, Photography, etc. Perhaps even offer Junior Exhibition and Senior Citizen Memberships at a discount. In addition, the paper would have more info about growing veggies, canning produce, taking pictures, etc. Yes, printing an additional 7,500 - 10,000 papers would add a few hundred dollars to the total cost (I'm not sure the exact cost - probably 5-8¢ per paper although you could cut back a bit on the number of papers that goes to each library), but you could easily pick up an additional 100 exhibitors. That would more than pay for the cost of printing. Plus, if they bring a couple of friends with them as well as spread the word, you could make money doing it this way. You know if Kelsey was to enter something and win a ribbon, we would have to attend the fair to see it. So would some grandparents, neighbors, etc.
I also have access to several gardening articles (supplied by the OSU Ag Service) that I can send to other newspapers (or people could sign up at the Fair's web site to receive a newsletter via e-mail) that have tips about raising veggies, such as now being the time to start seedlings indoors. It would be too late this year, but next year the Fair should be able to get a grant to help fund this. That could pay for the paper itself and then some.
One other idea - perhaps for this year, would be to get in touch with Burpee Seeds. Have them help sponsor the veggie prizes. Perhaps not with a huge cash donation, but with a donation of seeds. Anything to get more people involved.
And yes, I do plan on entering several categories. That's what inspired me to really take a look at the Premium guide. I have three types of tomatoes, two types of sweet peppers, five types of spicy peppers and some basil already planted. I intend to add some more tomatoes, green beans, cucumbers and another herb or two. I figure by the time summer is over, I'll have about 50 bushels of tomatoes, 30 bushels of beans, a couple bushels of cucumbers and peppers and a few pounds of basil. I might even give you a bean or two!
Mike
JoAnn Paules - 29 Mar 2007 20:02 GMT Umm, Mike? I don't get it. ;-)
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>I can think clearly now, the headache is gone! Well, at least for a while. >After 5+ weeks of daily agony, having a few hours free of pain while not [quoted text clipped - 128 lines] > > Mike Mike Koewler - 29 Mar 2007 20:53 GMT JoAnn,
That message needs deleted. I have no idea how it ended up in this NG. I clicked on New message, selected someone from my address book, typed and sent it.
Thanks for pointing it out, though. I might have wondered why the guy did not respond to it. :-)
Mike
> Umm, Mike? I don't get it. ;-) JoAnn Paules - 29 Mar 2007 21:34 GMT We've all done that at some point. Just be glad that you were talking about veggies and not something a bit more personal. ;-)
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> JoAnn, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >> Umm, Mike? I don't get it. ;-) Rob Giordano (Crash) - 30 Mar 2007 16:04 GMT Too many Burpee seeds I suspect.
| JoAnn, | [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | | > Umm, Mike? I don't get it. ;-) Mike Koewler - 30 Mar 2007 21:55 GMT Rob,
You better believe I buy Burpee seeds, and I'm choosy about where I get them from. I bought a bunch of seeds last year from a Seed and Feed store. Out of package of green beans, three plants sprouted. That was a tad behind the corn, in which four of them actually came up.
Mike
> Too many Burpee seeds I suspect. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > | > | > Umm, Mike? I don't get it. ;-) Rob Giordano (Crash) - 30 Mar 2007 22:08 GMT Want some basil "trees"? Sheesh, I planted basil a year ago and I must dropped seeds all over the place...got pesto?
| Rob, | [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] | > | | > | > Umm, Mike? I don't get it. ;-) Mike Koewler - 30 Mar 2007 23:05 GMT Rob,
Hey, my son works at an upscale restaurant that is into fresh basil and my basil is picked just before he leaves to go to work. I plan on trading it for some giant shrimp or steaks.
Mike
> Want some basil "trees"? Sheesh, I planted basil a year ago and I must > dropped seeds all over the place...got pesto? [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > | > | > | > | > Umm, Mike? I don't get it. ;-) DavidF - 29 Mar 2007 21:05 GMT Sorry Mike, that is not supported directly in Publisher. You would have to use the "insert vegy pieces" tool, and even then I don't think you would get very good cross browser support. It also sounds like your file size would be much too large and take way too long to load. However, if you use the "compress vegies" function, you might find the file size reduced to a much more reasonable volume, though uploading to your web host is likely to be a bit messy, and the whole thing might end up in the compost file. I must say though that though you might use Publisher, Serif software would most likely be a more suitable choice. Don't forget that Publisher is primarily a DTP and is limited in function. Please post the URL when you have finished.
DavidF
>I can think clearly now, the headache is gone! Well, at least for a while. >After 5+ weeks of daily agony, having a few hours free of pain while not [quoted text clipped - 128 lines] > > Mike Mary Sauer - 29 Mar 2007 22:36 GMT To add to David's excellent advice, don't forget the pictures http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/clipart/results.aspx?qu=tomato&sc=20
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> Sorry Mike, that is not supported directly in Publisher. You would have to use > the "insert vegy pieces" tool, and even then I don't think you would get very [quoted text clipped - 136 lines] >> >> Mike Mike Koewler - 30 Mar 2007 00:46 GMT David,
I was looking for a program that was geared toward DTP - Developing Tomatoes Profusely. Since it has limited web capabilities, I thought that would be a plus - I hate having to wipe those things from my face, plus they tend to attract spiders. Fortunately, it doesn't have to integrate well with Java either, I like tea or Mt. Dew.
I am considering using a set of frames, though. The beans and tomatoes can grow up them. Neighbors not being able to browse it might be a good asset - the raccoons ate up every ear of corn last year. And talk about compression - I am planning on raising nearly 50 tomato plants, 75 green bean stalks, 20 hot pepper plants, 10 cucumber plants plus some bell peppers and basil in a 24x30 foot space. That's going to mean uploading a lot of veggies to my counter top (the desktop is too small) but at least it's not a hard drive to the market.
Mike
> Sorry Mike, that is not supported directly in Publisher. You would have to > use the "insert vegy pieces" tool, and even then I don't think you would get [quoted text clipped - 141 lines] >> >>Mike DavidF - 30 Mar 2007 01:15 GMT Ok then, but I think you are spreading the fertilizer a little thick.
DavidF
> David, > [quoted text clipped - 163 lines] >>> >>>Mike Mary Sauer - 30 Mar 2007 09:11 GMT I agree...
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> Ok then, but I think you are spreading the fertilizer a little thick. > [quoted text clipped - 163 lines] >>>> >>>>Mike
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